Kubica back in an F1 car
Discussion
HighwayStar said:
You’re making a huge presumption, literally say Kubica would’ve delivered, Sirotkin will not. No one knows anything for sure. We know how go Kubica was but that was a long time ago. Yes he was a race winner, supposed great feedback and experience. Why didn’t Renault sign him up if it’s so plain to see how good he is? Who knows.
How can you be so sure Kubica would bring better results AND more money would follow throughout the season. You make it sound as though he will singlehanded drag Williams toward the sharp end of the grid. A lot will depend on how good this seasons car is.
Some believe if a car is good any competent driver will be able to deliver big points
I’m a big Williams fan, I’d love to see them back at the top. With Paddy Lowe in there I feel they are headed in the right direct and they know what they are doing.
Yes fair points throughout. How can you be so sure Kubica would bring better results AND more money would follow throughout the season. You make it sound as though he will singlehanded drag Williams toward the sharp end of the grid. A lot will depend on how good this seasons car is.
Some believe if a car is good any competent driver will be able to deliver big points
I’m a big Williams fan, I’d love to see them back at the top. With Paddy Lowe in there I feel they are headed in the right direct and they know what they are doing.
This is the first clear picture of Kubica's arm I have been able to find.
Sa Calobra said:
CraigyMc said:
Have you done better?
Do you measure and offer opinion on everything in life based on your own performance? Your opinion would be very sycophantic to all.
If you know much about Williams history, you know that the team has had much leaner times than these. Of everyone in the pitlane, Frank knows the value of a quid better than any of them.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
HustleRussell said:
So has Kubica. But not Sirotkin. What’s your point?
How has Stroll worked out for Williams?There are people who could have done better, but he didn't do badly.
CraigyMc said:
He stuck it on the podium in his first season and was beaten 43/40 points by the most experienced guy on the grid.
There are people who could have done better, but he didn't do badly.
Without that lucky podium he would have been nowhere.There are people who could have done better, but he didn't do badly.
Considering Massa had basically retired the year before I don't think it's too much to shout about.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
How has Stroll worked out for Williams?
Pretty wellPodium, three points behind Massa who was driving very well. Not bad for a rookie season
If he pushes on in 2018 he has a promising career
If he doesn’t then he will damage his career probably beyond repair in F1 at least
ELUSIVEJIM said:
CraigyMc said:
He stuck it on the podium in his first season and was beaten 43/40 points by the most experienced guy on the grid.
There are people who could have done better, but he didn't do badly.
Without that lucky podium he would have been nowhere.There are people who could have done better, but he didn't do badly.
Yeah, definitely luck.
Stroll is doing very well for a kid who jumped from F3 straight to F1.
Car-Matt said:
So even now, you say you’d take Palmer, a GP2 champ and pay him over Sirotkin and £20m?
You would always pick a Champion over a paid driver.Your point is invalid when you know what happened to Palmer.
Why not look at other winners of the GP2 Championship??
Hamilton, Rosberg and Hulkenberg to name just three.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Car-Matt said:
So even now, you say you’d take Palmer, a GP2 champ and pay him over Sirotkin and £20m?
You would always pick a Champion over a paid driver.Your point is invalid when you know what happened to Palmer.
Why not look at other winners of the GP2 Championship??
Hamilton, Rosberg and Hulkenberg to name just three.
What about Pantano and Glock........forget them did you? Valsecchi and Leimer seem to have stellar careers also
Jenson Button came straight from F3 also
CraigyMc said:
Presumably Stroll was also lucky when he won 14 races in the 2016 Euro F3 championship on his way to winning the championship?
Yeah, definitely luck.
Stroll is doing very well for a kid who jumped from F3 straight to F1.
Without that one lucky third he would have been nowhere.Yeah, definitely luck.
Stroll is doing very well for a kid who jumped from F3 straight to F1.
Car-Matt said:
Your point is invalid because we know what happened to them ;-)
What about Pantano and Glock........forget them did you? Valsecchi and Leimer seem to have stellar careers.
Jenson Button came straight from F3 also
Button was tipped by many to be a future World Champion.What about Pantano and Glock........forget them did you? Valsecchi and Leimer seem to have stellar careers.
Jenson Button came straight from F3 also
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Button was heavily hyped before his first race: former driver Gerhard Berger described him as a "phenomenon"; the head of his karting team, Paul Lemmens, compared him to Ayrton Senna; and Williams's technical director Patrick Head said he was "remarkably mature and definitely a star of the future". However some had misgivings about his lack of experience and ability to cope with the pressures of Formula One.
It is not the same as a driver only getting the drive due to money.
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 9th January 21:14
ELUSIVEJIM said:
CraigyMc said:
Presumably Stroll was also lucky when he won 14 races in the 2016 Euro F3 championship on his way to winning the championship?
Yeah, definitely luck.
Stroll is doing very well for a kid who jumped from F3 straight to F1.
Without that one lucky third he would have been nowhere.Yeah, definitely luck.
Stroll is doing very well for a kid who jumped from F3 straight to F1.
Yeah, definitely luck.
Stroll is doing very well for a kid who jumped from F3 straight to F1.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Lets return here at the end of 2018.
I will enjoy the experience.
Why? Whatever Stroll does proves nothing about Williams decision, they need the Cash.I will enjoy the experience.
Same goes for Sirotkin
You are clearly too immature to understand the responsibility of a large successful business.
Running a privateer F1 team is not about hiring what a forum fanboi thinks is the fastest driver (even when testing has proven he’s not lolz) it’s about what’s best for the business.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Button was tipped by many to be a future World Champion.
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Button was heavily hyped before his first race: former driver Gerhard Berger described him as a "phenomenon"; the head of his karting team, Paul Lemmens, compared him to Ayrton Senna; and Williams's technical director Patrick Head said he was "remarkably mature and definitely a star of the future". However some had misgivings about his lack of experience and ability to cope with the pressures of Formula One.
It is not the same as a driver only getting the drive due to money.
Did you forget to write the smart answer about the other 4 who must be superstars like Hamilton because they won......Quote
Button was heavily hyped before his first race: former driver Gerhard Berger described him as a "phenomenon"; the head of his karting team, Paul Lemmens, compared him to Ayrton Senna; and Williams's technical director Patrick Head said he was "remarkably mature and definitely a star of the future". However some had misgivings about his lack of experience and ability to cope with the pressures of Formula One.
It is not the same as a driver only getting the drive due to money.
Edited by ELUSIVEJIM on Tuesday 9th January 21:14
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