Discussion
Vaud said:
rallycross said:
Thanks had not heard about the doc have just watched it, interesting to see and amazing how things change so quickly in F1.
Didn’t realise Matt Bishop the journalist had got a senior job with McLaren.
He left in 2017 didn't he?Didn’t realise Matt Bishop the journalist had got a senior job with McLaren.
As Editor of F1 Racing it was his interview with Ron Dennis in 2004 (I think) that first alerted me to McLaren's financial troubles (and their attempts to cover it up).
HighwayStar said:
tight fart said:
What Amazon prime documentary?
This one:https://www.amazon.co.uk/GRAND-PRIX-Driver-Season-...
A new behind-the-scenes Amazon documentary on the McLaren F1 team has revealed how genuine fears were that Fernando Alonso would quit on the eve of the 2017 season – and there being a risk of team "collapse". The series "Grand Prix Driver", which is narrated by Michael Douglas ...
The McLaren factory had hit all of its close season targets with the new car, Honda failed miserably after talking a good game ( to save loss of face )
There was no way out after the first test, no team could have worked around that engine they were given.......
Just concentrate on getting through the next few years and building a decent car ffs.
http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/25839578/mclar...
http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/25839578/mclar...
Sixpackpert said:
Just concentrate on getting through the next few years and building a decent car ffs.
http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/25839578/mclar...
You do realise that's from a different part of the company to the F1 team don't you? McLaren Applied Technologies is all about the future (they make the FE battery for instance) so it makes perfect sense for them to do this. It doesn't detract from the F1 arm of the company at all.http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/25839578/mclar...
Kraken said:
Sixpackpert said:
Just concentrate on getting through the next few years and building a decent car ffs.
http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/25839578/mclar...
You do realise that's from a different part of the company to the F1 team don't you? McLaren Applied Technologies is all about the future (they make the FE battery for instance) so it makes perfect sense for them to do this. It doesn't detract from the F1 arm of the company at all.http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/25839578/mclar...
Demonstrated perfectly right here.
Just been watching Grand Prix Driver on amazon and at the start of episode 2 there's a shot of the new, bare chassis and the front bulkhead, where the nose would attach, is blurred out - it seems like it would be a pretty mundane part of the car, so I'm just wondering what IP is being protected here?
Edited by Mr_Thyroid on Sunday 27th January 17:15
Mr_Thyroid said:
Piginapoke said:
Front suspension, ducting, general packaging in a tight area of car
It was a bare chassis - just the survival shell - no suspension, ducting or anything else attached. Fundoreen said:
that 4 parter on amazon is ancient history now and was no good at the time anyway. I bet they have learned a lesson now about every doing something similar again.
I reckon McLaren just about got away with it - the blame seemed to be placed firmly at Honda's door. It's only with the knowledge of 2018 that you start to question what McLaren were up to.I found it watchable enough (for a rainy winter afternoon) but it was all very controlled, no real insight into the personalities or of the conflict going on.
Mr_Thyroid said:
Fundoreen said:
that 4 parter on amazon is ancient history now and was no good at the time anyway. I bet they have learned a lesson now about every doing something similar again.
I reckon McLaren just about got away with it - the blame seemed to be placed firmly at Honda's door. It's only with the knowledge of 2018 that you start to question what McLaren were up to.I found it watchable enough (for a rainy winter afternoon) but it was all very controlled, no real insight into the personalities or of the conflict going on.
Car-Matt said:
Mr_Thyroid said:
Fundoreen said:
that 4 parter on amazon is ancient history now and was no good at the time anyway. I bet they have learned a lesson now about every doing something similar again.
I reckon McLaren just about got away with it - the blame seemed to be placed firmly at Honda's door. It's only with the knowledge of 2018 that you start to question what McLaren were up to.I found it watchable enough (for a rainy winter afternoon) but it was all very controlled, no real insight into the personalities or of the conflict going on.
Even given the increased complexity of these engines they had plenty of time.
REALIST123 said:
Car-Matt said:
Mr_Thyroid said:
Fundoreen said:
that 4 parter on amazon is ancient history now and was no good at the time anyway. I bet they have learned a lesson now about every doing something similar again.
I reckon McLaren just about got away with it - the blame seemed to be placed firmly at Honda's door. It's only with the knowledge of 2018 that you start to question what McLaren were up to.I found it watchable enough (for a rainy winter afternoon) but it was all very controlled, no real insight into the personalities or of the conflict going on.
Even given the increased complexity of these engines they had plenty of time.
The car wasn't a continuation of the Honda engined car though. They changed a lot and by their own admission got it badly wrong due to arse covering by certain departments (reading between the lines). Regardless of the engine in the back or the timescales the car would still have sucked but it doesn't mean that the Honda engined car was equally as poor aerodynamically.
Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff