Official 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
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TheDeuce said:
Zoobeef said:
TheDeuce said:
When Lewis struck Albon, I initially felt it was his fault. Then a new angle, it was Albon's fault!
Then another replay.. and so on.
Once Lewis owned up it was case closed of course. I can't help but think however it really should have been a racing incident. Both drivers were happy enough to explain their actions as racers racing... What exactly is the definition of a racing incident if it isn't that?
In career or season terms it really won't effect either of them so no big deal, it will soon get forgotten. Niggles me a bit though..
You are wrong, lewis went for a gap about 3 cars wide that had been left open. Therefore it is his fault as he shouldn't be going for gaps on corners that aren't designated overtaking zones. Then another replay.. and so on.
Once Lewis owned up it was case closed of course. I can't help but think however it really should have been a racing incident. Both drivers were happy enough to explain their actions as racers racing... What exactly is the definition of a racing incident if it isn't that?
In career or season terms it really won't effect either of them so no big deal, it will soon get forgotten. Niggles me a bit though..
HustleRussell said:
Some of the stewards decisions are clearly influenced by the eventual outcome. I don’t necessarily believe that it’s correct but that seems to be the way it is this season. Albon ended up pretty much last from 3rd and Hamilton inherited Albon’s place.
I can't help but think that 80% of their reasoning is factual, the other 20% takes in to account how controversial their decision may be. Not because they actively consider that in their decision - but because they're all F1 fans themselves...If that incident was a 50/50, as you say Albon lost out most.. and on top of that Lewis owned up in front of tens of millions of viewers. Probably best not to speculate too much, but on a human nature level I would expect those two facts to have made the stewards conclusion a little easier to reach.
I also think on some level, Lewis must have known that by owning up (without even being pushed) he was going to effect the decision.
StevieBee said:
Zoobeef said:
Therefore it is his fault as he shouldn't be going for gaps on corners that aren't designated overtaking zones.
Genuine question.....have I missed something here? Are there now officially sanctioned overtaking zones on a circuit?It's a race track, it's all for racing until a specific rule is broken.
sleepezy said:
I think Lewis was being quite calculated in apologising... Doing so now, when there's no impact on either his Drivers Championship or Mercedes as Constructors, gives him more credibility when he doesn't do so in the future.
(and before anyone jumps down by throat, I am a fan of Hamilton and personally thought the punishment harsh from the limited video coverage I have seen)
I agree entirely with all of that, including about being a fan etc. Whilst all the other drivers are squabbling and pointing fingers each other, Hamilton has the luxury of taking all the blame and making himself appear the far bigger man. (and before anyone jumps down by throat, I am a fan of Hamilton and personally thought the punishment harsh from the limited video coverage I have seen)
Had that shunt occurred back in the Nico days, with the championship still at stake, I think we would have seen an entirely different Lewis.
As a Lewis fan from the year dot , I cheered Gasly over the line today as it was good to see another young driver on his uppers . Regards the Albon incident , again I wanted to see him get his first podium too but he made a rookie mistake under pressure leaving the door wide open , Lewis being somewhat more seasoned went for the gap , we saw the result . It's racing s
t happens , stop penalizing these incidents .
t happens , stop penalizing these incidents .E34-3.2 said:
They're being very frank and honest about it all. Probably being so open is the best way of ensuring it doesn't happen again, positive blame culture at Mercedes at work.It's gonna be a while before Toto misses another race though
I loved Mattia Binotto's dead pan expression when Vettel and LeClerc crashed into each other, he didn't fly off the handle, slam his fist down or chuck his headphones at the screens, it was an almost emotionless expression which I think said much more than if he had lost it, it was just a look of dispair and disbelief.
Vettel for fks sake saying he'd kept straight, no you didn't you can clearly see him moving over, anyway I think he'd known he'd screwed up just from his body language from hovering around the area of his car after he'd got out of it.
Vettel for f
ks sake saying he'd kept straight, no you didn't you can clearly see him moving over, anyway I think he'd known he'd screwed up just from his body language from hovering around the area of his car after he'd got out of it. Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff