Hulkenberg to Lotus

Hulkenberg to Lotus

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Vaud

50,770 posts

156 months

Saturday 16th November 2013
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rubystone said:
The Telmex money is always there and Slim Jnr will want to see Checo placed in the best possible seat...which should still be the Sauber.
To be fair to Checo, the Sauber isn't a bad car and you never know, it might be better than the McLaren next year, so all round, might not be the worst thing to happen in his career.

Crafty_

13,302 posts

201 months

Saturday 16th November 2013
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Wasn't there murmurings that Telmex money didn't go to McLaren when it was assumed it would because Perez went there ?
Haven't heard much about Perez bringing money, maybe he wants to do it on skill/reputation ?

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Saturday 16th November 2013
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Crafty_ said:
Wasn't there murmurings that Telmex money didn't go to McLaren when it was assumed it would because Perez went there ?
Haven't heard much about Perez bringing money, maybe he wants to do it on skill/reputation ?
Did you see the Claro Video logos on the cars? Can't recall whether they are still on them but they definitely were on the cars mid-year.

The Sauber may be a good car this year, but next year's cars will of course be totally different and one has to wonder how much money has been available to the design team at Sauber for the 2014 car?

DanielSan

18,835 posts

168 months

Sunday 17th November 2013
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rubystone said:
Did you see the Claro Video logos on the cars? Can't recall whether they are still on them but they definitely were on the cars mid-year.

The Sauber may be a good car this year, but next year's cars will of course be totally different and one has to wonder how much money has been available to the design team at Sauber for the 2014 car?
Can't see it being much different to the last big rule change, and they came out the box with a good car then. It's just something Sauber always do, even on a tight budget.

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Sunday 17th November 2013
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DanielSan said:
Can't see it being much different to the last big rule change, and they came out the box with a good car then. It's just something Sauber always do, even on a tight budget.
Sauber's uptick came late this year...I think it was the shift to the 2012 tyres. Their 'crunched' side pods didn't really work out of the box did they? I really think they have spent all their efforts on the 2013 car to attract investors and earn constructors place points and as such will be behind the curve in 2014.

Justaredbadge

37,068 posts

189 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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DanielSan said:
Can't see it being much different to the last big rule change, and they came out the box with a good car then. It's just something Sauber always do, even on a tight budget.
The 2009 bmw sauber was utterly awful. the 2010 bmw sauber ferrari ( rolleyes ) wasn't much better, the 2011 and 2012 cars were a marked improvement.

JontyR

1,915 posts

168 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Hulk to Force India and not Lotus.

Don't blame him personally!

http://www.f1today.net/en/news/hulkenberg-agrees-a...

CypherP

4,387 posts

193 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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JontyR said:
Hulk to Force India and not Lotus.

Don't blame him personally!

http://www.f1today.net/en/news/hulkenberg-agrees-a...
Neither do I. Will hopefully be a good move for him and should still provide him with a competitive car to allow him to mix with the top third.

weyland yutani

1,410 posts

165 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Paul's no worse than Sutil though. Hopefully both FI drivers are replaced.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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weyland yutani said:
Paul's no worse than Sutil though. Hopefully both FI drivers are replaced.
PDR is better than Sutil.

Sutil is dull. mediocre, uninspiring. I have no clue how he manages to have an F1 career when there are so many great drivers out there. Must be money.

JontyR

1,915 posts

168 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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toppstuff said:
weyland yutani said:
Paul's no worse than Sutil though. Hopefully both FI drivers are replaced.
PDR is better than Sutil.

Sutil is dull. mediocre, uninspiring. I have no clue how he manages to have an F1 career when there are so many great drivers out there. Must be money.
Or maybe he has threatened to beat them up if he isn't kept on wink

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

184 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Gaz. said:
JontyR said:
Hulk to Force India and not Lotus.

Don't blame him personally!

http://www.f1today.net/en/news/hulkenberg-agrees-a...
So Paul is out of a drive?

I'm surprised FI still owe Nico some money from 2012.
It's not just the 2012 drivers who are owed money!

Flying Toilet

3,621 posts

212 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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toppstuff said:
Sutil is dull. mediocre, uninspiring. I have no clue how he manages to have an F1 career when there are so many great drivers out there. Must be money.
Well, he takes them to a bar and orders champagne with one extra glass....

Justaredbadge

37,068 posts

189 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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longblackcoat said:
It's not just the 2012 drivers who are owed money!
Something something fisichella something something ferrari something something wipe the slate clean

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

184 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Justaredbadge said:
longblackcoat said:
It's not just the 2012 drivers who are owed money!
Something something fisichella something something ferrari something something wipe the slate clean
2013 drivers would probably like the slate wiped clean as well - PDR's going to lose his ride and, just to rub salt into the wound, will almost certainly be left chasing for backpay. I have no particular love for the dour whinger, but I can't help but feel a little bit sorry for him.

Only a very little bit though.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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longblackcoat said:
2013 drivers would probably like the slate wiped clean as well - PDR's going to lose his ride and, just to rub salt into the wound, will almost certainly be left chasing for backpay. I have no particular love for the dour whinger, but I can't help but feel a little bit sorry for him.

Only a very little bit though.
I feel bad for him, given that his thoroughly beige and under performing team mate, who he beats consistently, still has a seat.

5RedLights

155 posts

128 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Technically none of the seats at FI are confirmed yet. If they were being clever, they'd sign Perez (who's better than their current drivers anyway), and use the Telmex money to make sure they can meet Hulk's pay demands and sign him too. That would be a much better team than they had this year.

Jungles

3,587 posts

222 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Flying Toilet said:
Well, he takes them to a bar and orders champagne with one extra glass....
Sutil: Hey Paul, good race. Let me buy you a drink.

PDR: *runs*

toppstuff said:
I feel bad for him, given that his thoroughly beige and under performing team mate, who he beats consistently, still has a seat.
Publicly slagging your employer is not a good way to retain employment though. I think Paul is a better driver than Sutil, but that won't do much good if he can't get along with his team. frown

Edited by Jungles on Wednesday 20th November 22:30