****The Official Belgian (Spa) Grand Prix thread 2015****

****The Official Belgian (Spa) Grand Prix thread 2015****

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red_slr

17,397 posts

191 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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Ferrari and Red Bull (a and b) looking good.

McLaren upgrades not working well.

Williams not showing their hand.... could be fun!

Jasandjules

70,012 posts

231 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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andburg said:
someone needs to update http://hasmaldonadocrashedtoday.com/
Sky F1 have noted that too biggrin

mycool

268 posts

204 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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its updated smile

Jasandjules

70,012 posts

231 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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mycool said:
its updated smile
I wonder if the owner of the page watches Sky F1 then biggrin

MartG

20,733 posts

206 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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ajprice

27,776 posts

198 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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From the BBC page:
Andrew Benson - Chief F1 writer said:
Pastor in the naughty corner?
“As you will know if you were watching first practice, Pastor Maldonado had a crash. I know, what a surprise.

"Anyway, the car was quite badly damaged in the off, in which he collided with the wall having lost control on the exit of Malmedy. The right-hand side was quite badly damaged and consequently was not ready for the start of the session.

"Team-mate Romain Grosjean, meanwhile, is running a new front wing design on his car. There is only one. Maldonado was not allowed to use it in the morning.”

andy-xr

13,204 posts

206 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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I'm getting the impression that someone's told Rosberg that the quicker he goes, the earlier he gets to fly back home so it'd be in his interest to be fastest

PhillipM

6,524 posts

191 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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Welcome back, Michelin?

750turbo

6,164 posts

226 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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ash73 said:
Oof Nico lucky there, tyre blowout eek
Luck lucky man!

Mini1275

11,098 posts

184 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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That could have been a whole lot worse for Rosberg there, very lucky.

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

176 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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Wow that was lucky to avoid a serious accident there. Are these tyres up to the job or is the compound too soft? Was it 2 years ago that we had all those tyre failures at Silverstone?

mywifeshusband

595 posts

200 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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Nico taking a long walk back to collect his thoughts. I bet he was bracing himself for a big thump in the rear.

But he gets in the recovery truck! Got to look after the car.

rdjohn

6,238 posts

197 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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thainy77 said:
Let's see how much work Honda have done during the break.
Not enough, it would seem. And we are yet to learn about reliability.

Vaud

50,801 posts

157 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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rdjohn said:
thainy77 said:
Let's see how much work Honda have done during the break.
Not enough, it would seem. And we are yet to learn about reliability.
Don't think we know enough yet. Don't forget that they are changing this engine after P2. If you want an engine to "bank" for later in the year, wouldn't you run it at reduced power?

Derek Smith

45,854 posts

250 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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With a 10 p;ace grid penalty for Vestappen, he could be worth watching in the race.


PhillipM

6,524 posts

191 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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Vaud said:
Don't think we know enough yet. Don't forget that they are changing this engine after P2. If you want an engine to "bank" for later in the year, wouldn't you run it at reduced power?
I think they're taking these engines back for analysis to see if the combustion updates are working as expected, so they may not be running the ERS/MGUK much today. I doubt we'll see full power until P3 tommorow, and only then if they don't see any issues from today's data.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

189 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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PhillipM said:
Vaud said:
Don't think we know enough yet. Don't forget that they are changing this engine after P2. If you want an engine to "bank" for later in the year, wouldn't you run it at reduced power?
I think they're taking these engines back for analysis to see if the combustion updates are working as expected, so they may not be running the ERS/MGUK much today. I doubt we'll see full power until P3 tommorow, and only then if they don't see any issues from today's data.
I would just turn it up, nothing to lose, just take the same grid penelty every race and start with a new engine each time..

PhillipM

6,524 posts

191 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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007 VXR said:
I would just turn it up, nothing to lose, just take the same grid penelty every race and start with a new engine each time..
Everything to lose today - if you blow it up you can't take it back and check that your simulation and dyno testing is actually corroborating with what's seen on track.

Tommorow, by all means, crank the new motors open for qualifying and go.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

189 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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PhillipM said:
007 VXR said:
I would just turn it up, nothing to lose, just take the same grid penelty every race and start with a new engine each time..
Everything to lose today - if you blow it up you can't take it back and check that your simulation and dyno testing is actually corroborating with what's seen on track.

Tommorow, by all means, crank the new motors open for qualifying and go.
Good point, they only have to each..

rdjohn

6,238 posts

197 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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PhillipM said:
Everything to lose today - if you blow it up you can't take it back and check that your simulation and dyno testing is actually corroborating with what's seen on track.

Tommorow, by all means, crank the new motors open for qualifying and go.
But they needed to understand what the tyre performance was today, if they expect to have the same engine power as Ferrari on Sunday.

I don't see it happening. Mind you Manor have similar power to Ferrari and McLaren are comfortably ahead of them.