The Official 2017 Austrian Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

The Official 2017 Austrian Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

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Dr Z

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3,396 posts

173 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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Right. Some FP2 long runs on the Ultra Soft:



I think for the first time this year, I'm seeing Mercedes with a pace advantage in the long runs. As others have predicted, it won't be a surprise to see a Mercedes on pole and win the race. However, there appears to be some significant degradation from the Ultra Softs which needs to be managed in the 1st stint.

Ferrari put in a lot of work on the Super Softs and Softs but they had some difficulty switching it on quickly. They should have improved it over the weekend.

I'm seeing a 2-stop race here. There doesn't appear to be a huge difference between SS and Soft over a long run and I don't see a big gain in running the harder Soft tyre for a longer distance than two shorter SS stints, so it would come down preference and the strategy of the teams you're racing, I guess. It will be interesting to see how teams will be playing this.

The midfield as ever, looks tight. McLaren are showing signs of moving to the front of that. Alonso put in a shorter run which was quicker than Vandoorne, with only the Williams car quicker. I saw a modest improvement in top speed, and in the race runs. Let's see how they get on in Q and the race.

Byker28i

61,326 posts

219 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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Hamilton just can't get any luck can he. Gearbox damage from vettels love tap?
Still vettel just needs to blow another turbo for a penalty.
Be interesting to see if Hamilton can make it through the places

Vaud

50,837 posts

157 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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Byker28i said:
Hamilton just can't get any luck can he. Gearbox damage from vettels love tap?
IIRC then Mercedes have said it is unconnected.

deadslow

8,061 posts

225 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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Vaud said:
Byker28i said:
Hamilton just can't get any luck can he. Gearbox damage from vettels love tap?
IIRC then Mercedes have said it is unconnected.
yes

http://www.planetf1.com/news/hamiltons-gearbox-was...

Asked by Motorsport.com whether the gearbox was damaged by the Vettel crash, a Mercedes spokesman said: “We can rule this out.”

Tripe Bypass

586 posts

205 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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I see Thunderstorms forecast for the duration of the race. Anybody see it differently?

daidark

30 posts

133 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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Any way I can watch or listen live to this f1 without sky¿

Drive Blind

5,118 posts

179 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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daidark said:
Any way I can watch or listen live to this f1 without sky¿
https://www.reddit.com/r/motorsportsstreams/comments/6m07dj/1200_gmt_formula_1_qualifying_austrian_grand_prix/

l354uge

2,895 posts

123 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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Williams looks like a dog at the moment.

llewop

3,617 posts

213 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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Hamilton on super soft rather than ultras - maybe hoping to stay out longer to recover positions in the race?

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

176 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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l354uge said:
Williams looks like a dog at the moment.
Yeah, it is really disappointing as they were supposed to be running an update this weekend? The car just looks horrible to drive.

Dr Z

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3,396 posts

173 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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What an anticlimax!

Bottas on pole.

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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Are we going to have this idiot every race. Who thinks this is a good idea?

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

176 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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It is so disappointing when qualifying ends like that. Though I have to say I don't think the final runs would have changed the positions of the top 4 anyway - that has looked like the running order all weekend really.

ClockworkCupcake

74,937 posts

274 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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Well, the Italian interviewer trying to get Vettel and Hamilton to shake hands wasn't at all awkward was it. hehe

hairyben

8,516 posts

185 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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llewop said:
Hamilton on super soft rather than ultras - maybe hoping to stay out longer to recover positions in the race?
If rain threatens he might have tactical advantage to hang on and call a later pit stop - provided the ultras do go off significantly sooner. Or he could get into a start incident or shackled into the midfield unable to pass with everyone around on better tyres watching the leaders disappear. Rain is his hope methinks

Crafty_

13,319 posts

202 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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Byker28i said:
Still vettel just needs to blow another turbo for a penalty.
According to Ferrari only one of the turbos is unusable, so although he's on his last one he actually has 3 to use for the rest of the year.

ClockworkCupcake said:
Well, the Italian interviewer trying to get Vettel and Hamilton to shake hands wasn't at all awkward was it. hehe
Apparently they shook hands just before going out on to the circuit for the interviews.

ETA: https://www.instagram.com/p/BWSYz3RFtib/

Edited by Crafty_ on Saturday 8th July 15:58

HardtopManual

2,456 posts

168 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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Crafty_ said:
The sky bashing is getting boring. If you don't like it, don't watch.

So far all they've done is respond to messages from viewers, they're still doing it now talking about Merc keeping quiet on the gearbox change.
There's no alternative this weekend. When there is, I watch C4.

HardtopManual

2,456 posts

168 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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l354uge said:
Its added on to their position, not added to. so 1st > 5th, 10th > 15th etc.
Eh? 1st to 5th is a 4 place drop. 10th to 15th is a 5 place drop.

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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ClockworkCupcake said:
Well, the Italian interviewer trying to get Vettel and Hamilton to shake hands wasn't at all awkward was it. hehe
Being able to put a coherent sentence together would be a good start, never mind the lack of understanding of how to interview people. He is truly awful. laugh

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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jsf said:
Are we going to have this idiot every race. Who thinks this is a good idea?

Presumably you mean Valsecchi?

I would agree; I can't fathom the mentality that thought he'd be a good interviewer/commentator for UK tv. He's even worse on the F2.

But of course, we shouldn't watch if we aren't happy to accept second rate.