Will Lewis ever win #8?

Will Lewis ever win #8?

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paulguitar

24,167 posts

115 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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StRemy said:
paulguitar said:
StRemy said:
Will depend on the car, in this respect SV and LH careers are quite comparable, the main difference being that one has had a dominating car for a higher number of seasons than the other.
Do 2007 and 2008.
Championship winning cars based on “leased” data from a certain Italian manufacturer. He was even beaten by JB when McL was no longer in a position to win the championship.



Edited by StRemy on Saturday 26th March 11:32
He beat Button 2/1, and as you know, also Alonso when Hamilton was a rookie in 2007. The most impressive first season in F1 history.

Also, his 2008 title was won in a car which did not win the constructor's title.




StRemy

360 posts

34 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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paulguitar said:
StRemy said:
paulguitar said:
StRemy said:
Will depend on the car, in this respect SV and LH careers are quite comparable, the main difference being that one has had a dominating car for a higher number of seasons than the other.
Do 2007 and 2008.
Championship winning cars based on “leased” data from a certain Italian manufacturer. He was even beaten by JB when McL was no longer in a position to win the championship.



Edited by StRemy on Saturday 26th March 11:32
He beat Button 2/1, and as you know, also Alonso when Hamilton was a rookie in 2007. The most impressive first season in F1 history.
Still JB beat him and FA would had too if RD had not made a complete mess of that season.

paulguitar

24,167 posts

115 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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StRemy said:
Still JB beat him and FA would had too if RD had not made a complete mess of that season.
Jenson indeed finished ahead in 2011, Hamilton's worst season, when he seemed to let his personal life interfere and had several collisions. He was still usually faster than Button though, even that season, and overall in their three seasons together beat him 2/1.

Hamilton was simply better than Alonso, more often than not. You can try to make yourself feel better with conspiracy theories, but that's the truth of it, and Alonso knew it and still knows it.

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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StRemy said:
Will depend on the car, in this respect SV and LH careers are quite comparable, the main difference being that one has had a dominating car for a higher number of seasons than the other.
Vettel was spanked by his team mates once the car wasn't as good, Lewis quite the oposite.

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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StRemy said:
Championship winning cars based on “leased” data from a certain Italian manufacturer. He was even beaten by JB when McL was no longer in a position to win the championship.



Edited by StRemy on Saturday 26th March 11:32
There was no Ferrari IP in the McLaren, part of that kangaroo court process gave away McLaren's IP by mistake when yet another FIA screwup released the data unredacted.

StRemy

360 posts

34 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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paulguitar said:
StRemy said:
Still JB beat him and FA would had too if RD had not made a complete mess of that season.
Jenson indeed finished ahead in 2011, Hamilton's worst season, when he seemed to let his personal life interfere and had several collisions. He was still usually faster than Button though, even that season, and overall in their three seasons together beat him 2/1.

Hamilton was simply better than Alonso, more often than not. You can try to make yourself feel better with conspiracy theories, but that's the truth of it, and Alonso knew it and still knows it.
The only conspiracy theory I’ve seen so far in this thread is the one about LH not being allowed to win the 2007 WDC


Edited by StRemy on Saturday 26th March 14:12

StRemy

360 posts

34 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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jsf said:
StRemy said:
Championship winning cars based on “leased” data from a certain Italian manufacturer. He was even beaten by JB when McL was no longer in a position to win the championship.



Edited by StRemy on Saturday 26th March 11:32
There was no Ferrari IP in the McLaren, part of that kangaroo court process gave away McLaren's IP by mistake when yet another FIA screwup released the data unredacted.
How charitable of McL to pay 100m as a fine, then.

paulguitar

24,167 posts

115 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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StRemy said:
The only conspiracy theory I’ve seen so far in this thread is the one about LH not being allowed to win the 2007 WDC


Edited by StRemy on Saturday 26th March 14:12
Certainly was a very, very strange situation in Brazil.

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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StRemy said:
How charitable of McL to pay 100m as a fine, then.
You really don't know what you are posting about. laugh

poo at Paul's

14,225 posts

177 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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He’s mentally broken.

Teppic

7,418 posts

259 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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To answer the thread title:

No.

InformationSuperHighway

6,160 posts

186 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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Sad is this is to say.. you can really sense that Lewis's days are up.

He and Mercedes dominance is clearly now in the past. He has lost his mojo.

What a shame he didn't get number 8 last year and then could be done with it all.

paulguitar

24,167 posts

115 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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InformationSuperHighway said:
Sad is this is to say.. you can really sense that Lewis's days are up.

He and Mercedes dominance is clearly now in the past. He has lost his mojo.

What a shame he didn't get number 8 last year and then could be done with it all.
I seriously doubt that he will be as defeatest as that If we get to mid-season and Mercedes are still crap then perhaps, but not yet I don't think.

In Saudi Arabia, he had a nightmare qualifying due to some small setup and tyre pressure misjudgments, but in the race apparently had better pace than his teammate, and was also on older tyres, so it's not as if he's suddenly forgotten what he's doing.

I agree what happened last year was a real shame. Either way, I believe he's sincere that the 2021 debacle won't come to define him or his career. Even without his 'stolen' title from 2021 and the very questionable end to 2007, he still has 7, which is pretty good. smile

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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Lewis broke another of Schumacher's records this weekend. Number of races for a single team.

Unlike Schuey, I dont see that team forcing him to retire before he wants to.

HustleRussell

24,809 posts

162 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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InformationSuperHighway said:
Sad is this is to say.. you can really sense that Lewis's days are up.

He and Mercedes dominance is clearly now in the past. He has lost his mojo.

What a shame he didn't get number 8 last year and then could be done with it all.
Amazing how quickly people will depreciate Mercedes and Hamilton. Two difficult weekends and all hope is lost. This is the team which won eight constructors' on the trot over two major regulations changes, and arguably the best driver ever.

At this stage they've got clearly the third fastest car and no developing threat from behind. If you are pessimistic about their chances they are coming 3rd by default. If you are optimistic they still have a chance of winning the thing.

AlexIT

1,511 posts

140 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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There are targets that sometimes seem so close, but finally unreachable:
- think Valentino Rossi's 10th title: when he won his 9th, not many would have placed a bet against him getting the 10th, but this never happened. Or think Marc Marquez: when he won his 8th title at the age of 26, everyone was sure he would eventually equal or beat Rossi's 9 titles record. Now, at 29, it's not even sure he will ever race again...

Maybe with the new regs, the 8th title will become Lewis' chimaera... or not: we're just 2 races in a 23-race season, so it might well be that come December he will have it in his pocket.

PhilAsia

3,993 posts

77 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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AlexIT said:
There are targets that sometimes seem so close, but finally unreachable:
- think Valentino Rossi's 10th title: when he won his 9th, not many would have placed a bet against him getting the 10th, but this never happened. Or think Marc Marquez: when he won his 8th title at the age of 26, everyone was sure he would eventually equal or beat Rossi's 9 titles record. Now, at 29, it's not even sure he will ever race again...

Maybe with the new regs, the 8th title will become Lewis' chimaera... or not: we're just 2 races in a 23-race season, so it might well be that come December he will have it in his pocket.
C'mon Lewis....








.....empty your pockets..!!

MustangGT

11,713 posts

282 months

Wednesday 30th March 2022
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PhilAsia said:
C'mon Lewis....








.....empty your pockets..!!
????? I have no idea what you are trying to say here.

Chamon_Lee

3,826 posts

149 months

Wednesday 30th March 2022
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HustleRussell said:
InformationSuperHighway said:
Sad is this is to say.. you can really sense that Lewis's days are up.

He and Mercedes dominance is clearly now in the past. He has lost his mojo.

What a shame he didn't get number 8 last year and then could be done with it all.
Amazing how quickly people will depreciate Mercedes and Hamilton. Two difficult weekends and all hope is lost. This is the team which won eight constructors' on the trot over two major regulations changes, and arguably the best driver ever.

At this stage they've got clearly the third fastest car and no developing threat from behind. If you are pessimistic about their chances they are coming 3rd by default. If you are optimistic they still have a chance of winning the thing.
Read my mind! Two races in and people have forgot the last 8 years!
Not to mention things are clean for now between Leclerc and max. Give it a few races for things to heat up.

paulguitar

24,167 posts

115 months

Wednesday 30th March 2022
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Chamon_Lee said:
Not to mention things are clean for now between Leclerc and max. Give it a few races for things to heat up.
I saw some comments on Twitter saying that the reason Max and Charles have had no issues is that "Lewis was the problem, pass it on'.


We really appear to be living in an age where some people simply invent their own reality. It's quite worrying, really.