Will Lewis ever win #8?
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StRemy said:
paulguitar said:
StRemy said:
Will depend on the car, in this respect SV and LH careers are quite comparable, the main difference being that one has had a dominating car for a higher number of seasons than the other.
Do 2007 and 2008.Edited by StRemy on Saturday 26th March 11:32
Also, his 2008 title was won in a car which did not win the constructor's title.
paulguitar said:
StRemy said:
paulguitar said:
StRemy said:
Will depend on the car, in this respect SV and LH careers are quite comparable, the main difference being that one has had a dominating car for a higher number of seasons than the other.
Do 2007 and 2008.Edited by StRemy on Saturday 26th March 11:32
StRemy said:
Still JB beat him and FA would had too if RD had not made a complete mess of that season.
Jenson indeed finished ahead in 2011, Hamilton's worst season, when he seemed to let his personal life interfere and had several collisions. He was still usually faster than Button though, even that season, and overall in their three seasons together beat him 2/1.Hamilton was simply better than Alonso, more often than not. You can try to make yourself feel better with conspiracy theories, but that's the truth of it, and Alonso knew it and still knows it.
StRemy said:
Will depend on the car, in this respect SV and LH careers are quite comparable, the main difference being that one has had a dominating car for a higher number of seasons than the other.
Vettel was spanked by his team mates once the car wasn't as good, Lewis quite the oposite. StRemy said:
Championship winning cars based on “leased” data from a certain Italian manufacturer. He was even beaten by JB when McL was no longer in a position to win the championship.
There was no Ferrari IP in the McLaren, part of that kangaroo court process gave away McLaren's IP by mistake when yet another FIA screwup released the data unredacted.Edited by StRemy on Saturday 26th March 11:32
paulguitar said:
StRemy said:
Still JB beat him and FA would had too if RD had not made a complete mess of that season.
Jenson indeed finished ahead in 2011, Hamilton's worst season, when he seemed to let his personal life interfere and had several collisions. He was still usually faster than Button though, even that season, and overall in their three seasons together beat him 2/1.Hamilton was simply better than Alonso, more often than not. You can try to make yourself feel better with conspiracy theories, but that's the truth of it, and Alonso knew it and still knows it.
Edited by StRemy on Saturday 26th March 14:12
jsf said:
StRemy said:
Championship winning cars based on “leased” data from a certain Italian manufacturer. He was even beaten by JB when McL was no longer in a position to win the championship.
There was no Ferrari IP in the McLaren, part of that kangaroo court process gave away McLaren's IP by mistake when yet another FIA screwup released the data unredacted.Edited by StRemy on Saturday 26th March 11:32
InformationSuperHighway said:
Sad is this is to say.. you can really sense that Lewis's days are up.
He and Mercedes dominance is clearly now in the past. He has lost his mojo.
What a shame he didn't get number 8 last year and then could be done with it all.
I seriously doubt that he will be as defeatest as that If we get to mid-season and Mercedes are still crap then perhaps, but not yet I don't think.He and Mercedes dominance is clearly now in the past. He has lost his mojo.
What a shame he didn't get number 8 last year and then could be done with it all.
In Saudi Arabia, he had a nightmare qualifying due to some small setup and tyre pressure misjudgments, but in the race apparently had better pace than his teammate, and was also on older tyres, so it's not as if he's suddenly forgotten what he's doing.
I agree what happened last year was a real shame. Either way, I believe he's sincere that the 2021 debacle won't come to define him or his career. Even without his 'stolen' title from 2021 and the very questionable end to 2007, he still has 7, which is pretty good.
InformationSuperHighway said:
Sad is this is to say.. you can really sense that Lewis's days are up.
He and Mercedes dominance is clearly now in the past. He has lost his mojo.
What a shame he didn't get number 8 last year and then could be done with it all.
Amazing how quickly people will depreciate Mercedes and Hamilton. Two difficult weekends and all hope is lost. This is the team which won eight constructors' on the trot over two major regulations changes, and arguably the best driver ever. He and Mercedes dominance is clearly now in the past. He has lost his mojo.
What a shame he didn't get number 8 last year and then could be done with it all.
At this stage they've got clearly the third fastest car and no developing threat from behind. If you are pessimistic about their chances they are coming 3rd by default. If you are optimistic they still have a chance of winning the thing.
There are targets that sometimes seem so close, but finally unreachable:
- think Valentino Rossi's 10th title: when he won his 9th, not many would have placed a bet against him getting the 10th, but this never happened. Or think Marc Marquez: when he won his 8th title at the age of 26, everyone was sure he would eventually equal or beat Rossi's 9 titles record. Now, at 29, it's not even sure he will ever race again...
Maybe with the new regs, the 8th title will become Lewis' chimaera... or not: we're just 2 races in a 23-race season, so it might well be that come December he will have it in his pocket.
- think Valentino Rossi's 10th title: when he won his 9th, not many would have placed a bet against him getting the 10th, but this never happened. Or think Marc Marquez: when he won his 8th title at the age of 26, everyone was sure he would eventually equal or beat Rossi's 9 titles record. Now, at 29, it's not even sure he will ever race again...
Maybe with the new regs, the 8th title will become Lewis' chimaera... or not: we're just 2 races in a 23-race season, so it might well be that come December he will have it in his pocket.
AlexIT said:
There are targets that sometimes seem so close, but finally unreachable:
- think Valentino Rossi's 10th title: when he won his 9th, not many would have placed a bet against him getting the 10th, but this never happened. Or think Marc Marquez: when he won his 8th title at the age of 26, everyone was sure he would eventually equal or beat Rossi's 9 titles record. Now, at 29, it's not even sure he will ever race again...
Maybe with the new regs, the 8th title will become Lewis' chimaera... or not: we're just 2 races in a 23-race season, so it might well be that come December he will have it in his pocket.
C'mon Lewis....- think Valentino Rossi's 10th title: when he won his 9th, not many would have placed a bet against him getting the 10th, but this never happened. Or think Marc Marquez: when he won his 8th title at the age of 26, everyone was sure he would eventually equal or beat Rossi's 9 titles record. Now, at 29, it's not even sure he will ever race again...
Maybe with the new regs, the 8th title will become Lewis' chimaera... or not: we're just 2 races in a 23-race season, so it might well be that come December he will have it in his pocket.
.....empty your pockets..!!
HustleRussell said:
InformationSuperHighway said:
Sad is this is to say.. you can really sense that Lewis's days are up.
He and Mercedes dominance is clearly now in the past. He has lost his mojo.
What a shame he didn't get number 8 last year and then could be done with it all.
Amazing how quickly people will depreciate Mercedes and Hamilton. Two difficult weekends and all hope is lost. This is the team which won eight constructors' on the trot over two major regulations changes, and arguably the best driver ever. He and Mercedes dominance is clearly now in the past. He has lost his mojo.
What a shame he didn't get number 8 last year and then could be done with it all.
At this stage they've got clearly the third fastest car and no developing threat from behind. If you are pessimistic about their chances they are coming 3rd by default. If you are optimistic they still have a chance of winning the thing.
Not to mention things are clean for now between Leclerc and max. Give it a few races for things to heat up.
Chamon_Lee said:
Not to mention things are clean for now between Leclerc and max. Give it a few races for things to heat up.
I saw some comments on Twitter saying that the reason Max and Charles have had no issues is that "Lewis was the problem, pass it on'. We really appear to be living in an age where some people simply invent their own reality. It's quite worrying, really.
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