The Official 2018 Monaco Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**
Discussion
cgt2 said:
I stood just inside the barrier on the chicane after the tunnel. Basically every driver coming through allowed 2-3 inches from the barrier. There were two exceptions, Schumacher and Hakkinen, each and every lap they would just gently brush the barrier and you could feel the ripple. Their consistency made it clear those two guys were a cut above and that is something cameras will never show.
Fantastic! It’s an honour to witness stuff like that. Mika really was something to behold in qualifying. It’s great that Shuey had to deal with him otherwise that era would have been even more one sided. ELUSIVEJIM said:
mattyn1 said:
Dull maybe but the story about the reclaimed land being used is interesting. Would they change the iconic layout though?
Prince Albert has mentioned this but surely that would ruin the track.Seems too narrow as well and for Monaco that's saying something.
Unless they can go right around the very edge, safety run off would be the Mediterranean.
FourWheelDrift said:
Not a brilliant bit of drawing but in red is the current circuit around the hairpin and down to the tunnel, I can't see how an extension can be worked into the new reclaimed land, not without driving through the Beckham's kitchen and out the Sheikh of Dubai's sitting room and then through a water splash to return.
Seems too narrow as well and for Monaco that's saying something.
Unless they can go right around the very edge, safety run off would be the Mediterranean.
Well done Seems too narrow as well and for Monaco that's saying something.
Unless they can go right around the very edge, safety run off would be the Mediterranean.
I think it would just be longer and as you have stated just as tight.
It was long enough on Sunday without adding more
ELUSIVEJIM said:
So what would you have said if Ferrari had pulled that trick and got a Haas of a Sauber to basically stop?
In that case I would have said something completely different..Like... Leclerc wasn't racing Vettel as he still needed to stop. Even without team instructions trying to block would have just slowed his lap times and benefitted those he was racing.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
So what would you have said if Ferrari had pulled that trick and got a Haas of a Sauber to basically stop?
Honestly this sort of thing goes on all the time, and not just between the works and their customer teams. It could just as easily been a Sauber jumping out of the Merc's way so as not to ruin their own race by not trying to 'race' someone in a faster car or on a different strategy, and that they won't be ahead of at the end of the race no matter what they do. Sometimes they've just got to know which fights to pick and which to concede. I don't know why you're trying to make such a big thing out of it.thegreenhell said:
Honestly this sort of thing goes on all the time, and not just between the works and their customer teams. It could just as easily been a Sauber jumping out of the Merc's way so as not to ruin their own race by not trying to 'race' someone in a faster car or on a different strategy, and that they won't be ahead of at the end of the race no matter what they do. Sometimes they've just got to know which fights to pick and which to concede. I don't know why you're trying to make such a big thing out of it.
Sorry but without Ocon getting out of the way the Mercedes would have struggled to pass.Yes at different circuits it is a waste of time trying to stop a Ferrari or a Mercedes as the performance difference is too great especially with new tyres.
I never thought I would see the day that fan's think it's fine for another team to allow a driver to pass.
That just goes against the whole ethos of the sport.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Sorry but without Ocon getting out of the way the Mercedes would have struggled to pass.
Yes at different circuits it is a waste of time trying to stop a Ferrari or a Mercedes as the performance difference is too great especially with new tyres.
I never thought I would see the day that fan's think it's fine for another team to allow a driver to pass.
That just goes against the whole ethos of the sport.
But surely if Ocon held up Hamilton he would be slower, and then when he came into pit his real competitors could have passed him. And as there is no way to pass in Monaco he would have been stuffed. Ok Hamilton would have been a place or 2 down but that wouldn't have helped Ocon as he'd still be behind him. Yes at different circuits it is a waste of time trying to stop a Ferrari or a Mercedes as the performance difference is too great especially with new tyres.
I never thought I would see the day that fan's think it's fine for another team to allow a driver to pass.
That just goes against the whole ethos of the sport.
This happens on many tracks where the the mid field down want to waste time fighting with someone who will end up in front of them anyway.
Kraken said:
motco said:
If overtaking was not possible, how did Max manage it?
When you've got the best car on the grid for the race and you're starting at the back overtaking is a great deal easier. He didn't make much progress once he cleared those cars.FourWheelDrift said:
Not a brilliant bit of drawing but in red is the current circuit around the hairpin and down to the tunnel, I can't see how an extension can be worked into the new reclaimed land, not without driving through the Beckham's kitchen and out the Sheikh of Dubai's sitting room and then through a water splash to return.
Seems too narrow as well and for Monaco that's saying something.
Unless they can go right around the very edge, safety run off would be the Mediterranean.
With a bit of ingenuity they could make it something like this (but less wobbly than my sketch):Seems too narrow as well and for Monaco that's saying something.
Unless they can go right around the very edge, safety run off would be the Mediterranean.
But I'm not sure what it would add to the show.
F1 Moncao on-boards - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzW6bWTIhHU
Seems it was Magnussen that Grosjean had le boeuf with at the start of the race.
Seems it was Magnussen that Grosjean had le boeuf with at the start of the race.
Mr_Yogi said:
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Sorry but without Ocon getting out of the way the Mercedes would have struggled to pass.
Yes at different circuits it is a waste of time trying to stop a Ferrari or a Mercedes as the performance difference is too great especially with new tyres.
I never thought I would see the day that fan's think it's fine for another team to allow a driver to pass.
That just goes against the whole ethos of the sport.
But surely if Ocon held up Hamilton he would be slower, and then when he came into pit his real competitors could have passed him. And as there is no way to pass in Monaco he would have been stuffed. Ok Hamilton would have been a place or 2 down but that wouldn't have helped Ocon as he'd still be behind him. Yes at different circuits it is a waste of time trying to stop a Ferrari or a Mercedes as the performance difference is too great especially with new tyres.
I never thought I would see the day that fan's think it's fine for another team to allow a driver to pass.
That just goes against the whole ethos of the sport.
This happens on many tracks where the the mid field down want to waste time fighting with someone who will end up in front of them anyway.
Did we not see at least 1 other set of cars doing the same apart from the Renault pair in the race... was it someone letting Max by I think? Or was it Alonso?
thegreenhell said:
With a bit of ingenuity they could make it something like this (but less wobbly than my sketch):
But I'm not sure what it would add to the show.
It could provide a decent stop and overtaking opportunity at the end of the long run as the cars should have been vary close through the hairpin but its looking very narrow.But I'm not sure what it would add to the show.
Wonder how it'd work if the actually followed the roundabout instead of cutting accross the front, not really adding much but would make the tunnel faster and allow a longer draught.
Gaz. said:
He needed 3rd to mathematically stay in the championship so he had nothing to lose
I stand corrected on my example I wouldn’t say we’ve lost the old Lewis as such though, just that with a car that for the past few seasons is the class of the field, he doesn’t have as many opportunities to shine as Max who has had to fight through the field from usually his own making.
Things have closed up now but I wonder if Lewis views his 2015 title like Prost felt about his 1993 one?
Anyway, back on topic - Monaco as a race was more awful than usual on the TV but then everyone tunes in knowing what to expect.
They should save a few bob and instead of expanding into the harbour, just pump a load of sea water over the track at random intervals during the race...Maybe Bernie was on to something?
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