Official 2021 Grand Prix Support races thread (F2, F3 & W)

Official 2021 Grand Prix Support races thread (F2, F3 & W)

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JonChalk

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Sunday 5th December 2021
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Well, shortest race of the day - hopefully all ok, could be a bit bad in retrospect.

JonChalk

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Sunday 5th December 2021
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jsf said:
TheDeuce said:
Not even saying who's stuck out there..
Enzo Fittipaldi
Track looked clear though....

JonChalk

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Sunday 5th December 2021
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Sandpit Steve said:
JonChalk said:
Track looked clear though....
That looked like a carefully-cropped shot, with the mess just out of it.
Could be, you may well be right.

JonChalk

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Sunday 5th December 2021
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In absolutely no way did Boschung do a single thing wrong defending from Zhou.

Why investigate it?

JonChalk

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Sunday 5th December 2021
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..oh and that will be a red flag as well.

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Sunday 5th December 2021
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zetec said:
JonChalk said:
..oh and that will be a red flag as well.
Well predicted laugh
Two cars smeared across over 50% of the track, including a bit of the racing line + no run off / escape areas .....

Not feeling particularly smug about it though - it's bit disappointing and a little predictable.

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Sunday 5th December 2021
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LostM135idriver said:
Surely they could have had them out the way with 1 lap of safety car? At Monaco they would.

I think red flag may have been a way to to grab back 6 mins pre F1.
The marshalls here aren't at Monaco levels of experience - they've borrowed a load from Bahrain, apparently - but speedy crane operation not a factor there (loads more trackside access). there does seem to be a lack of cranes to lift cars off quickly here though.

JonChalk

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Sunday 5th December 2021
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Official comment from F2 website:

The FIA advises that incident occurred during the FIA Formula 2 Feature Race start today, 05/12/21, in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, involving car #10, Théo Pourchaire, and car #14, Enzo Fittipaldi.

The drivers were immediately attended to by emergency and medical crews. The drivers were conscious and extricated by the attending medical crews. Both have been transferred by ambulance and helicopter to King Fahad Armed Forces Hospital, Jeddah.

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Sunday 5th December 2021
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jsf said:
Lazenby saying they are both OK was rather dumb.
Yes, that was a dick thing to say, given the nature of the incident.

But about par for the fool.

JonChalk

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Sunday 5th December 2021
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Seen some unconfirmed Twitter comments suggesting Fittipaldi has a broken ankle, but that's just gossip / chat at the moment.

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Monday 6th December 2021
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Sandpit Steve said:
”Hey everyone thanks for all the messages. Enzo is awake/alert and resting at the hospital. He has a fracture in his right heel but thankfully things are much better than what we all expected. Thank you to the FIA, the team and all the medical staff here in Saudi Arabia.”

https://mobile.twitter.com/PiFitti/status/14676572... - Pietro Fittipaldi

That’s great news, after what looked to be a shocking accident.
Indeed. Testament to the structural front impact safety of modern F1 cars and the regulations brought in so far to get to this point.

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Friday 10th December 2021
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vulture1 said:
SpudLink said:
Taking a break from the partisan ranting on the other threads.

It really is a crime Piastri doesn’t have a route into F1.

Young Jack Doohan is making a bit of a splash. Always nice to see success for drivers who have made their way through British F4.
Yep Zhou has needed 3 attempts to get 3rd in f2 and he still might not get it. Piastri won each championship on the way up at the first time of asking. F2 nearly a done deal. But a big 2nd gen name or mega money talks before talent. And with Zhou being Chinese f1 want him in the main show
He (Piastri) was absolutely solid in quali today - never really locked in trouble, made no mistakes.

He may have to stay in F2 next year and destroy everyone (again) to get picked up by an F1 team. It would be a shame to lose another talent like this to IndyCar, or some other lower-league series - it's bad enough Ilott couldn't get a drive and Piastri is much better (which galls me as i'm a huge Ilott fan).

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Friday 10th December 2021
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Sandpit Steve said:
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He (Piastri) was absolutely solid in quali today - never really locked in trouble, made no mistakes.

He may have to stay in F2 next year and destroy everyone (again) to get picked up by an F1 team. It would be a shame to lose another talent like this to IndyCar, or some other lower-league series - it's bad enough Ilott couldn't get a drive and Piastri is much better (which galls me as i'm a huge Ilott fan).
Isn’t the F2 champion still banned from the following year’s championship?

Yes, it sucks that there’s no room for Piastri at the top table.
You are correct - I had completely forgotten that.

That really sucks for Piastri then.

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Saturday 11th December 2021
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Hmmmmm..

..not sure about how much read across to F1 there will be given F2 tyre management needs, but I'm not seeing closer racing in F2 as a result of the circuit changes - a few on track overtakes, but getting into and making use of DRS still seems a struggle.

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Saturday 11th December 2021
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SpudLink said:
I’m sure it’s been said before, but Alex Brundle is a great commentator. “This is connoisseur racing”. I’ll have to remember that next time I have to explain why I claim to enjoy an apparently boring race.

And as I press submit , Piastri takes the place he needs.
Indeed - I remain unconvinced that the track mods are in anyway going to prevent Abu Dhabi being bit of snooze-fest, with lots of Crofty shouting about possibilities and maybes and ifs.

Top marks to Piastri - he could have just sat behind Shwartzman, but decided to show him who was boss.

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Saturday 11th December 2021
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Even Piastri expressing frustration on not getting a drive; "champion of sitting on the couch" next year!

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Saturday 11th December 2021
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Have we had a full racing lap yet?

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Saturday 11th December 2021
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A bit closer, but overtaking still looks difficult.

Zhou's in-race radio message commiserating with Armstrong was quite nice.