The Official Japanese GP thread 2013

[anonymous-user]

There only looks like 1 winner to me given RB and Vettel's current form. Wouldn't mind him getting a DNF and an Alonso win just to make it a little bit more interesting in title terms. I can dream.

[anonymous-user]

No one can keep it on track today.

[anonymous-user]

Gaz. said:

valais said:

I think the timing is against contribution

It's a contributer as the eastern races are always quieter, but I haven't seen a race thread this quiet since 2004, and we only had 30,000 members then, now we have 403,000 members so by rights we should be on page 13 to be equal with a one page thread from 2004.

Even F1Technical has taken a small hit with their Korean thread at 19 pages and their Japanese thread on page 6 but PH has had a double whammy where that many regulars are just pissed off with the persistent trolling, bickering and baiting and have gone to another website.

I think that is unfair and not supportable unless you are implying that all the trolls etc have gone elsewhere too?

There is clearly a lack of interest and why wouldn't there be? Both championships are decided, the races are still stultified by unsuitable tyres and gimmicks. Next year brings much change and is where many fans are pinning their hopes and interest.

I've missed only a few GPs over the past 30 years or so since it was televised. Wherever I've been I've made a real effort to see the races live and if I haven't I wouldn't have been best pleased.

I type this lying next the pool at my hotel in Sicily. I have no idea if or where I could see this race live but in all honesty I don't really care. I'll watch the recording when I get home and won't feel I've missed anything.

As I've said elsewhere 2013 is done, and best out of the way. Roll on 2014 and let's hope it meets with expectation for once.

[anonymous-user]

Enricogto said:

REALIST123 said:

I type this lying next the pool at my hotel in Sicily. I have no idea if or where I could see this race live but in all honesty I don't really care. I'll watch the recording when I get home and won't feel I've missed anything.

Qual at 7 am on Rai 2
Race at 8 am on Rai 1

HTH

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Thanks for the help.

Only an hour between qualifying and race? Well that should spice things up!

I will then, put the telly on when I wake up and watch what's on if it's not over.

[anonymous-user]

If Webber gets away from the start well then he should get to turn 1 first as he has less drag than Vettel, but its a big if.

[anonymous-user]

Dont know why that clown Vettel gets all stressy when hes not in first and decides to drive into king lewis!!!!

Also Chilton will beat Bianchi, surely he will be in a mclaren next season?????????

I am joking by the way, Good start by Grosjean.

[anonymous-user]

Multi function strategy a now please, slang for get out the way if you want a leaving party.

[anonymous-user]

Rosbergs traffic light thing was still red when he went though.

[anonymous-user]

Good job Red Bull, im off to bed, because im tired, not because red bull are going to win!!

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 13th October 07:58

[anonymous-user]

Great strategy by red bull to get Vettel ahead of Webber

[anonymous-user]

oyster said:

stevesingo said:

Bluequay said:

Great strategy by red bull to get Vettel ahead of Webber Webber behind Vettel

The way I see it Vettel can look after his tyres better than anyone else, whilst still going fast.

Webbers lap times were fine when they brought him in, Vettel had done 23 laps on those tyres with a heavier fuel load, I'm sure webber could have gone to the finish on them as it would only have been 27, the race was over as soon as they brought him in.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 13th October 08:39

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oyster said:

Bluequay said:

oyster said:

stevesingo said:

Bluequay said:

Great strategy by red bull to get Vettel ahead of Webber Webber behind Vettel

The way I see it Vettel can look after his tyres better than anyone else, whilst still going fast.

Webers lap times were fine when they brought him in, Vettel had done 23 laps on those tyres with a heavier fuel load, I'm sure webber could have gone to the finish on them as it would only have been 27, the race was over as soon as they brought him in.

He'd have been a sitting duck if he'd stayed out. In fact he would have probably lost 2nd place to Grosjean too if he didn't make that last stop.

Rubbish, Vettel may have caught him, but at least they would have sorted it on the track, rather than on the pit wall. Grosjean was 14 seconds behind him and his tyres were only 4 laps newer, I don't think there is a chance he would have got him as well.

[anonymous-user]

Hub said:

Nice battle for the lead for once. Shame about Mark's strategy...

Shame about RedBull's strategy for Mark, you mean. But not too surprising.

Roll on 2014.

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VolvoT5 said:

Yes, shame he seems to stuggle so badly in qualifying lately.

I can't figure out if Kimi has dropped off now he has signed for Ferrari and the championship is dead, or if Grosjean has dramatically improved, or maybe a combination of both? Still disappointing to see him qualify so badly time and time again and spoil his race chances - if he had of been up there at the start he could have been fighting for the win, given how kind he is on his tyres and how is race pace is usually superior.


Same goes for Alonso really - much better than Massa during the race but spoils any real chances on a Saturday.

Some of that could be down to setup of course, setting the car up to be kind to the tyres, could mean they can't get the same heat into them as some as the others over a single lap.

[anonymous-user]

VolvoT5 said:

Bluequay said:

Some of that could be down to setup of course, setting the car up to be kind to the tyres, could mean they can't get the same heat into them as some as the others over a single lap.

Grosjean seems to make his tyres last OK, not as long as Kimi maybe but they are hardly falling apart after 5 laps either........ so if it is down to set up then why would Kimi do that, surely it is a compromise too far?

I think setup is a factor in qualifying, but other than the last 3 where kimi has been driving with an injured back he's been at least been equal with Grosjean over a single lap anyway.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 13th October 11:13

[anonymous-user]

Webber should have stayed out, he was 14 seconds ahead with 14 laps to go. He has no balls. I'm sick of his sad face to the camera after every race, the "poor me beaten again" look as if he has been told to pull over and let Seb through, if he grew a pair he could have won today.

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Oakey said:

RumbleOfThunder said:

David Croft ‏@CroftyF1 38m
Hulk to Ferrari. Alonso to McLaren. Chilton to Force India. Magnussen to Marussia

Are Force India that desperate for consistent last place?

Surely Max's dad won't buy FI as well as Marrussia?

[anonymous-user]

The drivers have complained about inconsistent tyres ever since Pirelli started supplying them. Some sets are better than others. If you listen to Vettel in the cool down room before the podium he even commented on it today.

[anonymous-user]

not just F1 either. http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresul...

From 2012 http://www.etyres.co.uk/news/pirelli-counters-clai...

Paul may wish to revisit the last sentence. "Finally he added: “All I can say is that the quality is exemplary. In fact, we have had no tyre failures at all, which we are told is something new in Formula One.”"