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The wife's got one. I get to drive it for short journeys.
Have to say, that while it ain't everyones cuppa, it's not bad. It's a get in, turn key, and drive type of motor. No faff, no fuss. Does what is says on the tin.
Bullet proof mechanics. Reliable electrics. Good after sales service. Cheap to insure, not bad on the juice, and still quite nippy if you use the right foot. Very stable through the bends, and handles nicely generally.
Second thought... Run while you still can!
Have to say, that while it ain't everyones cuppa, it's not bad. It's a get in, turn key, and drive type of motor. No faff, no fuss. Does what is says on the tin.
Bullet proof mechanics. Reliable electrics. Good after sales service. Cheap to insure, not bad on the juice, and still quite nippy if you use the right foot. Very stable through the bends, and handles nicely generally.
Second thought... Run while you still can!
T0nup said:
The wife's got one. I get to drive it for short journeys.
Have to say, that while it ain't everyones cuppa, it's not bad. It's a get in, turn key, and drive type of motor. No faff, no fuss. Does what is says on the tin.
Bullet proof mechanics. Reliable electrics. Good after sales service. Cheap to insure, not bad on the juice, and still quite nippy if you use the right foot. Very stable through the bends, and handles nicely generally.
Second thought... Run while you still can!
+1. Bought the daughter a new one six years back and it has never missed a beat. And show me another small hatchback you can get a sideboard in and shut the hatch! It's a bloomin' tardis, that's what it is. When I stop playing with cars and trailers I'll have one myself I reckon, or it's successor.Have to say, that while it ain't everyones cuppa, it's not bad. It's a get in, turn key, and drive type of motor. No faff, no fuss. Does what is says on the tin.
Bullet proof mechanics. Reliable electrics. Good after sales service. Cheap to insure, not bad on the juice, and still quite nippy if you use the right foot. Very stable through the bends, and handles nicely generally.
Second thought... Run while you still can!
I think it is only in the UK they have this reputation.
google Honda FIT or fitfreak website
Elsewhere in the world they are highly regarded by young people!
My wife has the CVT version with 7 speed flappy paddle gear change to play with.
Its fun (not very fast) but fun and is smooth, quiet, loads of room in side and reliable.
google Honda FIT or fitfreak website
Elsewhere in the world they are highly regarded by young people!
My wife has the CVT version with 7 speed flappy paddle gear change to play with.
Its fun (not very fast) but fun and is smooth, quiet, loads of room in side and reliable.
we had a couple of guys that used to move secret data on hard drives for us as secure couriers. I didn't normally see them but one day I was outside when they arrived and I noticed they were in an old Jazz.
I asked them why they used such a small car and the guy told me he bought it new for his wife but after 3 months it was rear ended and she wouldn't drive it again. So he had it repaired and started to use it for the courier company.
It did look a bit scruffy and when I looked inside, the drivers seat was like new, but the passenger seat was in tatters. I asked him if he had swapped them over but he said he had simply replaced the drivers seat from one from a scrap yard as the old one was worn out. He said the passenger one was worn as they always worked in pairs (secret data requirement)
then he told me to look on the speedo... 376,000 mile! He said that apart from servicing every 10,000 mile, tyres, 2 clutches, exhausts, and normal consumable, nothing else had EVER gone wrong! he said it was starting to use a bit of oil as he now had to top it up between services! he said it had just passed the MoT but was probably coming up to another clutch, but as it was worth nothing he was running it until something major went. he said he had been saying that for years!
I asked them why they used such a small car and the guy told me he bought it new for his wife but after 3 months it was rear ended and she wouldn't drive it again. So he had it repaired and started to use it for the courier company.
It did look a bit scruffy and when I looked inside, the drivers seat was like new, but the passenger seat was in tatters. I asked him if he had swapped them over but he said he had simply replaced the drivers seat from one from a scrap yard as the old one was worn out. He said the passenger one was worn as they always worked in pairs (secret data requirement)
then he told me to look on the speedo... 376,000 mile! He said that apart from servicing every 10,000 mile, tyres, 2 clutches, exhausts, and normal consumable, nothing else had EVER gone wrong! he said it was starting to use a bit of oil as he now had to top it up between services! he said it had just passed the MoT but was probably coming up to another clutch, but as it was worth nothing he was running it until something major went. he said he had been saying that for years!
Edited by buzzer on Friday 18th November 08:04
There was some suggestion that if Honda were to do a new Type R, the Jazz would be the model to use as the Civic has become too big for a NA engine under Euro V regs. Would be ace to see but Honda aren't interested in making sporty cars any more, which is a real shame.
Not looking too slow here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIs49KQ76Uw
However, it is hideously ugly.
Not looking too slow here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIs49KQ76Uw
However, it is hideously ugly.
buzzer said:
then he told me to look on the speedo... 376,000 mile!
OK, Mrs DL had the old model and now has the new one, and I drive it quite a bit for local use, but the old model had terrible seats, totally unsupportive and I can't imagine how horrendous it would be to do a lot of miles in one!The current model's seats are way, way, better. The downside is the new one doesn't have the "hewn from granite" feel that the old one had. It also had an endearing simplicity.
One word of warning, they seem to go wrong more with age than mileage. The very first ones (2002 to 2003, you can tell then as they have cassette players) had quite a lot of issues, and once they get to 7 years old they have problems with gearboxes, a/c, and nasty things like body seams coming apart.
They do a four wheel drive version in Japan, and being RHD of course, it's a pity they won't sell it here. Having said that, ours never gave a moments concern during the last two winters and this year has winter tyres.
We have two good dealers in our area so there seems to be a lot of Jazz's around here. Many seem to driven by young Mums.
Edited by Deva Link on Friday 18th November 16:39
Great little car if you want a small car with lots of space for people, forget-about-it, clockwork reliability, cheap running costs and insurance group. I was considering one and did think I could get along with it, but ultimately the steering did let it down, and I went for a Note instead.
I've got a lot of respect for the Jazz. Even for me, under 40 years old, I notice that it's height makes it easier to get into and out of. The seating is roomy. The packaging is very clever. A clever car overall that's very good at what it sets out to be, and I can respect that. Someone at Honda scored a bullseye when they read the brief and came up with the Jazz.
I've got a lot of respect for the Jazz. Even for me, under 40 years old, I notice that it's height makes it easier to get into and out of. The seating is roomy. The packaging is very clever. A clever car overall that's very good at what it sets out to be, and I can respect that. Someone at Honda scored a bullseye when they read the brief and came up with the Jazz.
Alfanatic said:
Great little car if you want a small car with lots of space for people, forget-about-it, clockwork reliability, cheap running costs and insurance group. I was considering one and did think I could get along with it, but ultimately the steering did let it down, and I went for a Note instead.
I've got a lot of respect for the Jazz. Even for me, under 40 years old, I notice that it's height makes it easier to get into and out of. The seating is roomy. The packaging is very clever. A clever car overall that's very good at what it sets out to be, and I can respect that. Someone at Honda scored a bullseye when they read the brief and came up with the Jazz.
+1I've got a lot of respect for the Jazz. Even for me, under 40 years old, I notice that it's height makes it easier to get into and out of. The seating is roomy. The packaging is very clever. A clever car overall that's very good at what it sets out to be, and I can respect that. Someone at Honda scored a bullseye when they read the brief and came up with the Jazz.
Although I think they took a minor step back with the current model. My mum has the previous gen, its comfortable, easily keeps up with motorway traffic, is stupidly economical (she gets around 55mpg on the 250 mile run from her place to mine), totally tardis like interior. And it has - as you said - clockwork reliability. It has never let her down (apart from the battery once dying, but thats a normal consumable).
Dear hora,
in the (extended) noisy family we have (had) six. Currently last model 1.2, 1.4 x2 (was 3), new model x2. None has ever needed more than routine servicing.
I currently have the basic 1.2 to offset the Monaro's thirst. The 1.2 is the quietest of the older modesl as the gearing is relatively high. They can be hustled surprisingly well given the height and modest power.
In my 33 mile commute it averages 60m.p.g. in the summer and 55 in the winter on Conti eco-contact 3s.
The stereo is rather ordinary and fiddly to change but the aux. input means I can plug in a digital radio/ music player.
Seating/space is flexible as others have reported.
It is completely invisible which has its up and downsides - no interest from the Peelers but other vehicles do pull out on you,
regards,
Jet
in the (extended) noisy family we have (had) six. Currently last model 1.2, 1.4 x2 (was 3), new model x2. None has ever needed more than routine servicing.
I currently have the basic 1.2 to offset the Monaro's thirst. The 1.2 is the quietest of the older modesl as the gearing is relatively high. They can be hustled surprisingly well given the height and modest power.
In my 33 mile commute it averages 60m.p.g. in the summer and 55 in the winter on Conti eco-contact 3s.
The stereo is rather ordinary and fiddly to change but the aux. input means I can plug in a digital radio/ music player.
Seating/space is flexible as others have reported.
It is completely invisible which has its up and downsides - no interest from the Peelers but other vehicles do pull out on you,
regards,
Jet
clonmult said:
+1
Although I think they took a minor step back with the current model.
I do agree, and I was looking at a gen 1 model. The dealer had Gen 2s on the showroom, so I looked around one while I was waiting, and I actually preferred the earlier model. The new one felt a lot bigger, but without any more interior space - just a huge plastic dashboard. The earlier cars also (to my eyes) look neater too (or maybe just simpler), inside and out.Although I think they took a minor step back with the current model.
Dear hora,
the only thing I miss with the 1.2 is A/C. If you're planning regular long summer journeys then it has to be the 1.4 otherwise, yes to the 1.2.
The 1.4 has 'leccie rear windows, folding mirrors (woot) and a better stereo but do you really need 'em?
The colour choice?
Well I suppose that, erm, funky shade might allow you to knock a few pounds off
,
regards,
Jet
the only thing I miss with the 1.2 is A/C. If you're planning regular long summer journeys then it has to be the 1.4 otherwise, yes to the 1.2.
The 1.4 has 'leccie rear windows, folding mirrors (woot) and a better stereo but do you really need 'em?
The colour choice?
Well I suppose that, erm, funky shade might allow you to knock a few pounds off
,regards,
Jet
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