Vauxhall to follow Saab?

[Agem]

Elesmere port is already on a 4 day week......easy to sack Britsh workers.....Game over?
Mike

[Agem]

Nick, my info is from someone whom delvers stuff there......i as him to comfirm. Also i thought things were bad when Merseyside police dumped Vauxhall and bought Hyundia !!!!
Mike

[Fire99]

I was just thinking about this current situation. Chevrolet is developing a stronger range of cars here in the UK so considering Vauxhall and Opel struggle to get out of the red, I wouldn't be surprised in a shift towards the 'home brand' with Chevrolet taking over the mantle in Europe.

[Dave Hedgehog]

problem is vauxhall took over as the bottom feeders of the car industry once rover went

[anonymous-user]

Dave Hedgehog said:

problem is vauxhall took over as the bottom feeders of the car industry once rover went

Never really thought of it that way but you do have a point.

[JayTee94]

I hope not.

I have been a Vauxhall fan-boy for years. Also, the current line up look good. (Astra GTC, Insignia, Corsa, Meriva)

I don't think it would be the same with a Chevrolet/other GM brand badge.

[Vulgar LS2]

would anyone miss them if they were to go?

[vz-r_dave]

What about Opel?

[Fire99]

JayTee94 said:

I hope not.

I have been a Vauxhall fan-boy for years. Also, the current line up look good. (Astra GTC, Insignia, Corsa, Meriva)

I don't think it would be the same with a Chevrolet/other GM brand badge.

Vauxhall / Opel has the same issue Ford had some time ago. Making money in Europe. Sadly for the VX/Opel boys, that is where their entire market is and are, among others, now competing with themselves (Chevrolet)

Using MG Rover as a discussion point (though different since GM oversees Vauxhall etc), MG Rover's main issue was that the management structure was still firmly stuck up their own backsides, even though they had great engineering ability.

Vauxhall / Opel need a sustainable business model but i'm not sure GM have the patience to make it happen. I think they want to concentrate on their core brands.

[danyeates]

£24k for a Corsa?! See TG the other day? Who buys these things?

[Fire99]

Vulgar LS2 said:

would anyone miss them if they were to go?

Of course. Variety is the spice of life and their cars are different from their direct competitors.

[JayTee94]

Vulgar LS2 said:

would anyone miss them if they were to go?

I might, I have always (mostly) preferred VX to Fords. JayTee94's household have owned a fair few aswell.

[Fire99]

JayTee94 said:

I might, I have always (mostly) preferred VX to Fords. JayTee94's household have owned a fair few aswell.

And they do do some barmy cars.. Astra / Corsa VXR's are fairly bonkers. The VXR8 (Ok, it's a Holden at heart) is madder than a mad thing and I love it.

[Vulgar LS2]

JayTee94 said:

Vulgar LS2 said:

would anyone miss them if they were to go?

I might, I have always (mostly) preferred VX to Fords. JayTee94's household have owned a fair few aswell.

I can honestly say that there is nothing they sell at the moment that I think is worth buying. I for one wouldn't miss them and I used to always have VX over ford.

[JayTee94]

danyeates said:

£24k for a Corsa?! See TG the other day? Who buys these things?

Very few people actually spend that on a Corsa. They have it on Finance/Co Car.

I like VX, but I find that price a bit steep. Although, it is on par with cars in that sector now. (eg: Clio Cup Silverstone)

[Fire99]

And I have to say, I had a CDTi Vectra Elite, and to live with, far preferred it to a Ghia X Mondeo TDCi of the same era. (2005)

Not to mention, we need more manufacturing in this country. Not less.

[JayTee94]

Vulgar LS2 - I have said before, your Monaro is one of the best I have seen.

I guess it depends on your needs, but I can think of reasons to buy a new Vauxhall. (eg: M/Way Hack = Insignia 2.0 CDTI Nav.)

[PumpkinSteve]

I'm always hearing about how Vauxhall don't make any money. Given the sheer amount of cars they sell, what more could they possibly do?

[Crafty_]

One factory (which IIRC has had issues before?) goes to a 4 day week and therefore its all going to go down the tubes ?
They build Astras there, which until recently Opel were building in Belgium, that work moved to Poland (I think).

You'll probably find they are shifting work elsewhere..

[Fire99]

PumpkinSteve said:

I'm always hearing about how Vauxhall don't make any money. Given the sheer amount of cars they sell, what more could they possibly do?

It's a 'Whole Europe' thing. Vauxhall and Opel combined. I think the operating costs in mainland Europe are pretty damn heavy.