Focus ST and Golf GTI- why the different buyer demographic

Focus ST and Golf GTI- why the different buyer demographic

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StevieB

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777 posts

150 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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Just wondered why it is that new hot Fords such as the Focus ST seem to be proper "mans, mans" cars straight out of the showroon and introduced to a petrol head home, with its Fast Ford owners club, whereas Golf GTIs seem to be bought by white collar professionals, rather than proper petrol heads, until they become at least 7-10 years old. When the Mk5 GTI came out I never saw one driven in anger for years. A bit like the Audi TT they seemed more a designer badge than anything. Now they are getting older, they are often blasting past in the hands of younger hoodlums. Cant just be a price thing, as neither car is particularly cheap these days.

Kitchski

6,516 posts

233 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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Can see the VW fanboys blowing up on this one.....

dave stew

1,502 posts

169 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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It's the black art of brand image! I study this when I'm bored and have a permutation on the best car for business.

Too flash and your customers think you're a wide boy and charging too much (BMW X5?)

Too scruffy and you're on your uppers...

Choices?

Volvo V70
Golf GTi
Any Saab

Etc...


TheBaj

170 posts

179 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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I've just bought my second MKV GTI, the first I owned from new. Never ever considered owning an ST.

VR6 Turbo

2,229 posts

156 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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probably because VW's are pretty slow and lardy from factory. you have to mess with them considerably for them to be entertaining. fast fords are usually just that, and they are cheaper to start with.

VR

rb5er

11,657 posts

174 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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These days anything with a German badge is bought by people that think it makes them seem more sophisticated than another brand would, then once its a bit older it becomes ultimate prestige blingbling to yoofs that like stretched tyres and chromed splitrim bbs's which are too wide for the car.

CarlT

3,423 posts

249 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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I bought a MK5 GTI new in 2006 - it was certainly used in anger. Would never contemplate buying a Focus ST or RS...

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

187 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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See - I never see Golf GTI's being spanked around. In fact I don't think I've ever seen one being driven in anger! Or Focus ST's!

Civic Type-R's on the other hand.... jeeeezus....

rallycross

12,878 posts

239 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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From what I've seen Focus ST tends to be fat headed Essex type blokes, Golf buyer a bit more intelligent with a bit more disposable income (probably). This is a ridiculous generalisation though.

LordHaveMurci

12,047 posts

171 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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I had a Mk V GTi for 9mths, considered a Focus ST but that slightly 'chavvy' image put me off to honest. And yes, my Golf was driven!

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

165 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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rallycross said:
From what I've seen Focus ST tends to be fat headed Essex type blokes, Golf buyer a bit more intelligent with a bit more disposable income (probably). This is a ridiculous generalisation though.
hehe fat headed... A funny generalisation none the less...

TameRacingDriver

18,130 posts

274 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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I followed a few Golfs that were being driven in anger, and they are certainly pretty quick (I was able to keep up, but I was in an Integra Type-R).

I seem to see a lot of Focus STs being driven by complete bellends TBH.

J4CKO

41,790 posts

202 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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The Focus is a bit garish in comparison, both nice cars but for some reason VW do have the snob value even though they arent any better than a Ford, think people decide they are too good for Fords and simply must have a VW, my sister in law wouldnt be seen dead in a Ford Galaxy (old shape) which is exactly the same car as the Sharan they bought. Audi could re-tool the Rover Metro and stick an Audi A0.5 badge on it, some DRL's and perform a slight "Audification" and legions of premium consumers would flock to it.

Brands seem to be shorthand for lifestyle and a way of avoiding any actual research, how do we otherwise explain some of the howlers that Mercedes put into production, like the C class coupe warmed over leftovers.

calibrax

4,788 posts

213 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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Golf drivers tend to be older, and remember the Golf of old, a fantastic 1980s hot hatch.
The Focus hasn't been around anywhere near as long, so it attracts a younger demographic.

Dracoro

8,707 posts

247 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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StevieB said:
whereas Golf GTIs seem to be bought by white collar professionals, rather than proper petrol heads, .
Aren't white collar professionals allowed to be be proper petrol heads then?

Anyway, the vast majority of new fast Fords I see (and most other sporty or flash new cars for that matter) are driven by people in suits, your white collar professionals if you will....

robmlufc

5,229 posts

188 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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calibrax said:
Golf drivers tend to be older, and remember the Golf of old, a fantastic 1980s hot hatch.
The Focus hasn't been around anywhere near as long, so it attracts a younger demographic.
The yoof havent realised how crap and plastically the fixed or repaired daily is yet.

kambites

67,707 posts

223 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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I'd say it's mostly an age thing - the Focus is very "teenager" in terms of its styling and the colours its offered in; the Golf is much more restrained looking and indeed to drive. Rightly or wrongly, the Golf also has a much more "middle class" image, where the Focus has a slightly more "working class" one.

I can see the appeal of both; I don't know which I'd have given the choice. I don't think either is objectively a "better" drivers' car and I don't think there's any real difference in build quality, so I suppose it just comes down to whether one is willing to pay more for the extra perceived quality that the Golf offers.

Edited by kambites on Friday 6th April 11:33

SBN

1,025 posts

154 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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I think fords need to leave the halfords bins alone... The st has never been a looker. Gti on the other hand smile

kambites

67,707 posts

223 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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SBN said:
I think fords need to leave the halfords bins alone... The st has never been a looker. Gti on the other hand...
... is dull as dish-water to look at. You pays your money...

hornetrider

63,161 posts

207 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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Golf GTi: leather brogues, levi's, oakleys and polo shirt.

Focus ST: shell suit, baseball cap, gold necklace and Nike Air.

/nutshell