What engine would make you consider buying a new GT86.

What engine would make you consider buying a new GT86.

Poll: What engine would make you consider buying a new GT86.

Total Members Polled: 545

I would consider a GT86 with 200bhp (N/A): 144
I would consider a GT86 with 250bhp (N/A): 204
I would consider a GT86 with 250bhp (Turbo): 98
I would consider a GT86 with 300bhp (Turbo): 131
I would consider a GT86 with 250bhp (SC): 96
I would consider a GT86 with 300bhp (SC): 122
I would never consider buying a GT86: 61
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Discussion

kambites

Original Poster:

67,683 posts

223 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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Someone asked if we could have a poll to determine people's attitudes to the power level of the GT86, so here it is. I've put together a list of what I consider the feasible future engine configurations for the GT86/BRZ.

Since it's a very recent car, select only the options that you could ever see yourself buying new. For simplicity's sake, assume that the engine changes have negligible effect on the weight balance of the car and that the price is the current 25k for the lowest powered one, varying up to 30k for the 300bhp versions.

Krikkit

26,621 posts

183 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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I reckon 28k for a 250hp version (supercharged would be fine) would tempt me in... That said the 200hp version looks good.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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A MILLION horsepower as anything less would be dangerously slow

DanDC5

18,851 posts

169 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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N/A or S/C. Power not overly important to be honest.

Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
A MILLION horsepower as anything less would be dangerously slow
I agree. Also it should make petrol as I drive it and cost tuppence to buy.

ali4390

2,323 posts

167 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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I voted for 250BHP N/A, although I haven't driven the GT86 and so am only basing opinions on power (or lack thereof) on what I've read/heard.

CJP80

1,097 posts

150 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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I voted 2 and 6, which seem to be running away with it.

Vitorio

4,296 posts

145 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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I wouldnt consider one, certainly not new.

Even if i were to be able to look past the fact that i dont have the money, nor the real want for a car with that profile (i'd probably prefer an MX5 with an aftermarket SC kit), i'd take the subaru over the toyota every single time.

In which case, an STi please.

kambites

Original Poster:

67,683 posts

223 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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Interesting. It seems we have some people who'd consider a 250bhp turbo but not a 300bhp turbo. hehe

Dave Hedgehog

14,587 posts

206 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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i like force induction engines, charged or blown, not a problem for me

Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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Having driven it I like the car as it is, but if a 250/300hp S/C version was available and I was a) in the market for a new car and b) could afford it, that's where my money would go

kambites

Original Poster:

67,683 posts

223 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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Hmm, not even remotely the results I'd have expected so far.

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

163 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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NA or SC for me, I imagine a Turbo would ruin any kind of mid corner throttle balance.

That said, where would they get a 250bhp NA engine? The EJ25 and FB25 (thanks wikipedia!) both have less than 200bhp.

cvega

406 posts

161 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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hmm, i chose 250 with SC, for linear power delivery..

StottyZr

6,860 posts

165 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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I'd like two options, a 200hp N/A or a 300hp S/C yes

kambites

Original Poster:

67,683 posts

223 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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bicycleshorts said:
NA or SC for me, I imagine a Turbo would ruin any kind of mid corner balance.

That said, where would they get a 250bhp NA engine? The EJ25 and FB25 (thanks wikipedia!) both have less than 200bhp.
Dunno where they'd get any of the engines; I guess they'd have to be designed for the application. Subaru do have a 2.5 boxer four; I'd imagine that could be tuned up to 100bhp/litre in N/A form with a bit of effort.

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

163 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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kambites said:
Dunno where they'd get any of the engines; I guess they'd have to be designed for the application. Subaru do have a 2.5 boxer four; I'd imagine that could be tuned up to 100bhp/litre in N/A form with a bit of effort.
Yep, that's the 2 engines I posted. Don't know if they're heavier than the 2.0 boxer either.

kambites

Original Poster:

67,683 posts

223 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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bicycleshorts said:
kambites said:
Dunno where they'd get any of the engines; I guess they'd have to be designed for the application. Subaru do have a 2.5 boxer four; I'd imagine that could be tuned up to 100bhp/litre in N/A form with a bit of effort.
Yep, that's the 2 engines I posted. Don't know if they're heavier than the 2.0 boxer either.
Ah OK. smile

To be fair, they didn't have a 200bhp 2.0 until this was released, so I see no reason to believe it's impossible. The weight question is a good one, I don't know the relative block dimensions.

gofasterrosssco

1,238 posts

238 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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I don't really see the point in a 250bhp NA. Probably no more torque (which is really what people are bemoaning when they say its not quick enough) and less chance to fully wring it out (would need a 8-9k rpm redline, ala S2000!).

A 250bhp (200lb/ft) SC would be the next choice however.

kambites

Original Poster:

67,683 posts

223 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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gofasterrosssco said:
I don't really see the point in a 250bhp NA. Probably no more torque (which is really what people are bemoaning when they say its not quick enough) and less chance to fully wring it out (would need a 8-9k rpm redline, ala S2000!).

A 250bhp (200lb/ft) SC would be the next choice however.
And yet it's winning the poll at the moment. smile

I had expected the supercharged engines to be running away with this but it seems I was very wrong. The fact that the current engine is actually ahead of all the forced induction engines is quite a surprise to me. Maybe Toyota did their market research better than we give them credit for. hehe

Edited by kambites on Thursday 16th August 10:36