Driver "aids" Why so many? Can no-one drive anymore?
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Opportunity to have a rant.
Why so many " Driver Aids"
If drivers need all this help, they should not be allowed on the road, lights that come on when dark or raining, wipers that start when it drizzles, auto reverse parking, reversing sensors, heads up displays, tyre pressure remote guages, out of lane warning sensors, cruise control and the list goes on and on!! Dont even start me on " Start Stop " technology bo****cks!!
Can nobody be bothered to actually drive their bl***dy car, Go get the bus and be done with it.
Make the driving test harder to pass, compulsory retest every 10 years and give the control of the car back to the driver!!
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Does anyone else despair of the manufacturers building cars with so many "aids" the driver is only a steering dummy!
I feel better now. Thanks..
Why so many " Driver Aids"
If drivers need all this help, they should not be allowed on the road, lights that come on when dark or raining, wipers that start when it drizzles, auto reverse parking, reversing sensors, heads up displays, tyre pressure remote guages, out of lane warning sensors, cruise control and the list goes on and on!! Dont even start me on " Start Stop " technology bo****cks!!
Can nobody be bothered to actually drive their bl***dy car, Go get the bus and be done with it.
Make the driving test harder to pass, compulsory retest every 10 years and give the control of the car back to the driver!!
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Does anyone else despair of the manufacturers building cars with so many "aids" the driver is only a steering dummy!
I feel better now. Thanks..
Imagine my horror when I discovered my mobile telephone has a camera on it!
Extend argument to everything until we're all back in the caves eating raw rat
Is it lazy rant day or something? I drive an S1 Elise, but I really can't think of a reason why someone else shouldn't have an electrically adjustable auto-dimming interior rear view mirror if they want.
Extend argument to everything until we're all back in the caves eating raw rat
Is it lazy rant day or something? I drive an S1 Elise, but I really can't think of a reason why someone else shouldn't have an electrically adjustable auto-dimming interior rear view mirror if they want.
Indicators have always struck me as the lazy man's alternative to sticking your arm out the window. The highway code clearly shows the relevant hand signals; if you can't be bothered to learn them you shouldn't be on the road. And don't get me started on synchromesh! Why can't people just double declutch, like they used to?
[caveman] Wheels? What the f*ck is wrong with your feet? [/caveman]
[caveman] Wheels? What the f*ck is wrong with your feet? [/caveman]
Uncle John said:
Once upon a time a windscreen was considered a driver aid.
It's called progress.
As were things like automatic timing advances. It's called progress.
The simple answer to the original question is that the huge majority of these systems, new or old, provide a net benefit to most drivers most of the time. It's just a bit of a shame that some of them are forced on those of us who don't want them, but that's just how market forces work.
Boredom Rant.
I prefer the pure feeling of driving, oh look its raining I will turn on my wipers,its getting dark I will turn my lights on, oh the traffic has stopped for 3 seconds I will turn off my engine and restart when ready to move again.
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Not trying to offend anyone but if you cant park your own car without help, WTF as they say!!
I prefer the pure feeling of driving, oh look its raining I will turn on my wipers,its getting dark I will turn my lights on, oh the traffic has stopped for 3 seconds I will turn off my engine and restart when ready to move again.
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Not trying to offend anyone but if you cant park your own car without help, WTF as they say!!
Davel said:
Having got rid of my Disco 4 HSE with auto virtually everything, I'm quite enjoying the new Defender without all the gadgets.
The drive is much more involving and not an awful lot slower in journey time.
.The drive is much more involving and not an awful lot slower in journey time.
Hurrah Thanks, My TVR is much the same, basic stuff like windscreen wipers and indicators but everything else needs driver input!!
S2Mike said:
Boredom Rant.
I prefer the pure feeling of driving, oh look its raining I will turn on my wipers,its getting dark I will turn my lights on, oh the traffic has stopped for 3 seconds I will turn off my engine and restart when ready to move again.
So would you be happier if there were little knobs on the steering wheel for adjusting mixture, ignition timing, and idle speed? Or is it OK that the car does those for you these days. Doesn't automatic ignition timing take away some of the "pure feel of driving"? There's a computer making decisions for you...I prefer the pure feeling of driving, oh look its raining I will turn on my wipers,its getting dark I will turn my lights on, oh the traffic has stopped for 3 seconds I will turn off my engine and restart when ready to move again.
And what about synchromesh as someone said? Double-declutching is definitely purer driving.
For me, on an every day car, I can't be bothered to do those things myself and progress is generally a good thing. And yes, I really like parking sensors, cruise control and rain sensing wipers.
On a classic to use at weekends when the weather is nice, then manual choke, no synchromesh, etc is character and makes the "pure" experience better.
mmm-five said:
Maybe these aids just allow the drive to concentrate more on the main task?
Have you disabled your ABS, power steering, windscreen wipers, etc. or do you consider those aids as 'essential'?
ABS is hardly essential in order to drive a car safely and the other two examples aren't really "driver aids". You wouldn't be able to do drive safely without windscreen wipers in the rain, and with modern cars being so heavy with silly wide tyres you'd need bloody good arm muscles to be able to steer well enough without hydraulic/electrical assistance.Have you disabled your ABS, power steering, windscreen wipers, etc. or do you consider those aids as 'essential'?
The sort of useless crap the OP is referring to is stuff that you simply do not need if you have a modicum of ability and an IQ higher than a chimp. In your example that would be "rain sensing wipers".
S2Mike said:
Boredom Rant.
I prefer the pure feeling of driving, oh look its raining I will turn on my wipers,its getting dark I will turn my lights on, oh the traffic has stopped for 3 seconds I will turn off my engine and restart when ready to move again.
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Not trying to offend anyone but if you cant park your own car without help, WTF as they say!!
The primary purpose of cars is to transport people and objects between locations quickly, comfortably and safety. If I'm trying to transport my family the length of the country at night in the rain, I'll happily accept any help that's offered to me without considering it an affront to my dignity, an insult to my driving ability or a question mark over my general manliness. I'm perfectly capable of parking in the multi-story at the station each morning, but it's a joyless experience so if a beepy sensor made it a touch easier I'd welcome it.I prefer the pure feeling of driving, oh look its raining I will turn on my wipers,its getting dark I will turn my lights on, oh the traffic has stopped for 3 seconds I will turn off my engine and restart when ready to move again.
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Not trying to offend anyone but if you cant park your own car without help, WTF as they say!!
If I'm trying to work my way round Brands faster than before then my priorities are entirely different because I'm doing it for fun, but I'm in a small minority of people who ever put themselves in that situation.
Cos every other manufacturer is taking over the driving of all cars so I bought an old one!!
It wont be long before roads will be like a huge scalextric track, all the dummies just step into a passenger pod which runs in a slot, which transports them to somewhere near where they want to go!
Personal choice will be gone, no more procreation, people will be chosen and cloned, breathing will be taxed and cars will be banned except in museums!
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Have I gone a little over the top do you think??
It wont be long before roads will be like a huge scalextric track, all the dummies just step into a passenger pod which runs in a slot, which transports them to somewhere near where they want to go!
Personal choice will be gone, no more procreation, people will be chosen and cloned, breathing will be taxed and cars will be banned except in museums!
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Have I gone a little over the top do you think??
mmm-five said:
Maybe these aids just allow the drive to concentrate more on the main task?
Have you disabled your ABS, power steering, windscreen wipers, etc. or do you consider those aids as 'essential'?
More likely I think that they make some people feel that they canforget about the task and text or use facebook instead?Have you disabled your ABS, power steering, windscreen wipers, etc. or do you consider those aids as 'essential'?
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