advice on clutch gone on car that i just bought.
Discussion
1 month ago i bought a 1995 range rover p38 from a car dealer.
they sold me as well a warranty insurance....
since then the clutch started slipping and there is a air leak on the rear suspension.
when they printed the invoice they wrote "this car is being sold as scrap or spare or repairs and not in roadworthy condition, and to be trade sale px clearence."
was also sold with a new mot, new road tax, serviced and with a new exhaust as the old one was too rusty.
tomorrow i am taking the car back to have the clutch changed and the air leak checked.
legally where do i stand about the repair that need to be done? do i have to pay for whatever the warranty insurance doesn't pay (that for some reason i believe its not worth the paper its written on) or as the seller is a car dealer he have to repair it without charging me anything.
Thank you in advance.
they sold me as well a warranty insurance....
since then the clutch started slipping and there is a air leak on the rear suspension.
when they printed the invoice they wrote "this car is being sold as scrap or spare or repairs and not in roadworthy condition, and to be trade sale px clearence."
was also sold with a new mot, new road tax, serviced and with a new exhaust as the old one was too rusty.
tomorrow i am taking the car back to have the clutch changed and the air leak checked.
legally where do i stand about the repair that need to be done? do i have to pay for whatever the warranty insurance doesn't pay (that for some reason i believe its not worth the paper its written on) or as the seller is a car dealer he have to repair it without charging me anything.
Thank you in advance.
It depends on what you paid for it ultimately, if it was £200 then you may be asking a bit much but, if it was a fair market price for one you have some course for recompense.
The 'it is sold as seen/spares or repairs' blah blah is pretty much ignorable unless you bought it as such (which is why what you paid is important, along with how it was advertised).
This is ignoring the warranty aspect of course, without reading it and being able to diagnose the faults personally I wouldn't want to even guess
The 'it is sold as seen/spares or repairs' blah blah is pretty much ignorable unless you bought it as such (which is why what you paid is important, along with how it was advertised).
This is ignoring the warranty aspect of course, without reading it and being able to diagnose the faults personally I wouldn't want to even guess
i paid 3000 for it (i know it is a little bit over their price but was counting with piece of mind of buying from a dealer).
he said the sold as... was normal on part exchanges.
considering he took the car to the mot (and passed with no advisories) and put a new exhaust goes against not being roadworthy and sold as spares.
when i spoke to them they said to take the car that they would take care of it. that they would deal with the warranty insurance as well but i might have to pay whatever comes in excess of the value they pay.
he said the sold as... was normal on part exchanges.
considering he took the car to the mot (and passed with no advisories) and put a new exhaust goes against not being roadworthy and sold as spares.
when i spoke to them they said to take the car that they would take care of it. that they would deal with the warranty insurance as well but i might have to pay whatever comes in excess of the value they pay.
I've got a feeling the warranty won't include the clutch as it's "wear and tear", just as they wouldn't warranty the tyres for going low on tread.
Still, they shouldn't be selling it as a "trade sale" to get out of fixing something. Did you get told that it was a trade sale after you parted with your cash?
All else fails, small claims court is your friend
Edit: Read through this: http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/reports/676408/of...
These are the regulations car dealers must adhere to.
Still, they shouldn't be selling it as a "trade sale" to get out of fixing something. Did you get told that it was a trade sale after you parted with your cash?
All else fails, small claims court is your friend
Edit: Read through this: http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/reports/676408/of...
These are the regulations car dealers must adhere to.
Edited by Meths on Friday 26th April 22:32
Meths said:
Page 24-32 and page 36 of that pdf is of particular interest to yourself
so he have to repair it free of charge and the non roadworthy sold as spares is just a useless waste of ink.Thank you.
will let everyone know how it went.
tomorrow i am just dropping the car there and he said Monday they will look at it.
Migx said:
the car have 150960 miles. i have done about 500 miles with it.
Sorry, but I don't think you've got a hope in hell on the clutch. 17 year old car with 150k - it is bound to have lots of worn out bits - clutch included - which nothing will cover and are part and parcel of buying such a car.V8RX7 said:
On a £3k car they are brave trying to remove your rights by writing it's unroadworthy.
To then sell you a warranty too is ridiculous.
It should be repaired for free.
If not call Trading Standards
And what are they going to do about it? To then sell you a warranty too is ridiculous.
It should be repaired for free.
If not call Trading Standards
The most they might do is decide the dealer is guilty of unfair trading terms and prosecute. If they do, as a criminal matter it will go before a Magistrates Court. If found guilty they will impose a fine which - if paid - will go to HMG. This will not help the buyer except maybe giving them some sort of warm satisfaction of justice.
The issue of a repair is a civil matter - not criminal - between buyer and seller and the most Trading Standards will do is handout a leaflet.
Mr Pies said:
Countdown said:
Can't understand why they sold you a warranty on a car not deemed roadworthy? 
Glad I'm not the only one!
, but every little helps the cashflow. £3k for vehicle with "sold for spares or repair" (or similar) on the receipt is rather salty though, the dealer must have cojones visible from space 
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