Full bmw service history
Discussion
Hello one and all,
1st post here, so I believe the phrase is newbie :-)
So my subject for discussion is bmw service history, when purchasing a car I wonder how many people would strive to find a model with full bmw service history, and is this worth maybe an extra £1000 on the asking price ?
Does full bmw service history as against a split bmw and independent really make that much difference, as oe parts should be used for both, so really the only difference you would expect would be a few £ less on labour charges,
I personally would prefer to buy an 80.000 full bmw service history car over a 60.000 independent, but what about other people's opinions ?
1st post here, so I believe the phrase is newbie :-)
So my subject for discussion is bmw service history, when purchasing a car I wonder how many people would strive to find a model with full bmw service history, and is this worth maybe an extra £1000 on the asking price ?
Does full bmw service history as against a split bmw and independent really make that much difference, as oe parts should be used for both, so really the only difference you would expect would be a few £ less on labour charges,
I personally would prefer to buy an 80.000 full bmw service history car over a 60.000 independent, but what about other people's opinions ?
Depends on the price of the car I think?
On a newish 25k+ car I'd look for a BMW history, on a cheaper car I wouldn't be bothered nor would I pay more.
Of course there is the other argument to consider - dealers don't know what they are doing but an indie will do and will take greater care of your car!
On a newish 25k+ car I'd look for a BMW history, on a cheaper car I wouldn't be bothered nor would I pay more.
Of course there is the other argument to consider - dealers don't know what they are doing but an indie will do and will take greater care of your car!
Less than three years old then I'd only want BMW history, but after that I'd be happy with a reputable indie/specialist. Although nothing wrong with an indie servicing a year old car. I believe the block exemption act means that any garage may service a vehicle without voiding the warranty. Of course genuine parts should be used.
BMW wont extend warranties unless full BMW or BMW specialist service history. Theres a 325d e91 at invicta ford and a few other places around the uk. It had one BMW stamp and the rest where slips of paper from back street garages/unknown garages. Its dropped £2500 in just over a month of being on sale, plus it only came with a months warranty. Also no BMW service history no paint or anti corrosion warranty. I spent a couple of months looking till i found a very nice e91 320d msport .
BMW wont extend warranties unless full BMW or BMW specialist service history. Theres a 325d e91 at invicta ford and a few other places around the uk. It had one BMW stamp and the rest where slips of paper from back street garages/unknown garages. Its dropped £2500 in just over a month of being on sale, plus it only came with a months warranty. Also no BMW service history no paint or anti corrosion warranty. I spent a couple of months looking till i found a very nice e91 320d msport .
BMW wont extend warranties unless full BMW or BMW specialist service history. Theres a 325d e91 at invicta ford and a few other places around the uk. It had one BMW stamp and the rest where slips of paper from back street garages/unknown garages. Its dropped £2500 in just over a month of being on sale, plus it only came with a months warranty. Also no BMW service history no paint or anti corrosion warranty. I spent a couple of months looking till i found a very nice e91 320d msport .
I would be more concerned at BMW'S (and any brand, actually) that are advertised as "full service history" and then you see that they've gone 2 years plus between those "services"!
Even my pickup truck gets fresh oil and filter at least once a year, even though sometimes, its only done 4000 miles in that time.
Oil deterioates over time and so should be changed frequently- particularly in performance cars.
Also, i would have much more faith in an independent specialist for my servicing rather than a main dealer. Reason being, they're usually run by enthusiasts and also, as there's usually only one or two company owners , with there name and reputation at stake, they've much more to lose with poor work, than say nigel the "technician" at the main dealers , who probably hates the boss, cant wait for his bacon butty at 10.30 and knows hes going to get paid at the end of the month even if he couldnt give a toss about that annoying hesitation on you're 330D, you've asked to be investigated!
A bit harsh maybe, as iam sure theres many decent techs at dealers but, you know what i mean, iam sure!
Even my pickup truck gets fresh oil and filter at least once a year, even though sometimes, its only done 4000 miles in that time.
Oil deterioates over time and so should be changed frequently- particularly in performance cars.
Also, i would have much more faith in an independent specialist for my servicing rather than a main dealer. Reason being, they're usually run by enthusiasts and also, as there's usually only one or two company owners , with there name and reputation at stake, they've much more to lose with poor work, than say nigel the "technician" at the main dealers , who probably hates the boss, cant wait for his bacon butty at 10.30 and knows hes going to get paid at the end of the month even if he couldnt give a toss about that annoying hesitation on you're 330D, you've asked to be investigated!
A bit harsh maybe, as iam sure theres many decent techs at dealers but, you know what i mean, iam sure!
oceanview said:
I would be more concerned at BMW'S (and any brand, actually) that are advertised as "full service history" and then you see that they've gone 2 years plus between those "services"!
Even my pickup truck gets fresh oil and filter at least once a year, even though sometimes, its only done 4000 miles in that time.
Oil deterioates over time and so should be changed frequently- particularly in performance cars.
Also, i would have much more faith in an independent specialist for my servicing rather than a main dealer. Reason being, they're usually run by enthusiasts and also, as there's usually only one or two company owners , with there name and reputation at stake, they've much more to lose with poor work, than say nigel the "technician" at the main dealers , who probably hates the boss, cant wait for his bacon butty at 10.30 and knows hes going to get paid at the end of the month even if he couldnt give a toss about that annoying hesitation on you're 330D, you've asked to be investigated!
A bit harsh maybe, as iam sure theres many decent techs at dealers but, you know what i mean, iam sure!
on modern fully synthetic oils 2 years between services is fine if it hasn't done too many miles. Oil tech has come on a LONG way since the "change it at least once a year" days.Even my pickup truck gets fresh oil and filter at least once a year, even though sometimes, its only done 4000 miles in that time.
Oil deterioates over time and so should be changed frequently- particularly in performance cars.
Also, i would have much more faith in an independent specialist for my servicing rather than a main dealer. Reason being, they're usually run by enthusiasts and also, as there's usually only one or two company owners , with there name and reputation at stake, they've much more to lose with poor work, than say nigel the "technician" at the main dealers , who probably hates the boss, cant wait for his bacon butty at 10.30 and knows hes going to get paid at the end of the month even if he couldnt give a toss about that annoying hesitation on you're 330D, you've asked to be investigated!
A bit harsh maybe, as iam sure theres many decent techs at dealers but, you know what i mean, iam sure!
icruze said:
Hmmm fair points of feedback, so from another angle, would it put you off buying an m3 that has full bmw service history then ???
No, but i sure as s
t wouldn't be put off one that's been maintained by a specialist either.
gtidriver said:
BMW wont extend warranties unless full BMW or BMW specialist service history. Theres a 325d e91 at invicta ford and a few other places around the uk. It had one BMW stamp and the rest where slips of paper from back street garages/unknown garages. Its dropped £2500 in just over a month of being on sale, plus it only came with a months warranty. Also no BMW service history no paint or anti corrosion warranty. I spent a couple of months looking till i found a very nice e91 320d msport .
dealers do not have to provide a warranty under the sales of goods act 2003. However if something goes wrong within the first six months of the new owner taking the car - THEY MUST PROVE that the fault did not exist when selling the car, not the other way around as they try to make you believe. This is virtually impossible so hence why any decent garage offer 6 months warranty, they are responsible for repairing the car at their own cost and any charges incurred with it (such as towing and hotel).A warranty is pretty much useless and not worth the paper its written on - however your legal rights are very clear and a warranty is not needed for you to claim.
I also read on here about persons wanting to reject a faulty new car after purchase, Again the sales of goods act supports this and you are entitled to a FULL REFUND, there is a grey area around reasonable time however.
So you have two cars both 20 months old 28000mile
Car A FBMWSH
Car B Independant SH
Most would choose the BMWSH, but what servicing have the cars have had? Probably an oil service an air filter, a microfilter and brake fluid. Nothing an independant could not carry out as well as a dealer. There is a chance that the indy has ignored the CBS indication and changed the oil every 12 months and done the filters at the same time, in which case what would you by now?
The added value of a FDSH is a myth that is spouted from franchised dealers in order to get customers to keep the cars in the dealer network generating revenue to build shiney show rooms.
Car A FBMWSH
Car B Independant SH
Most would choose the BMWSH, but what servicing have the cars have had? Probably an oil service an air filter, a microfilter and brake fluid. Nothing an independant could not carry out as well as a dealer. There is a chance that the indy has ignored the CBS indication and changed the oil every 12 months and done the filters at the same time, in which case what would you by now?
The added value of a FDSH is a myth that is spouted from franchised dealers in order to get customers to keep the cars in the dealer network generating revenue to build shiney show rooms.
I simply move onto the next car if it doesnt have full BMW SH. Am I missing the odd bargain? Yes. Are there many reputable specialists which do a better job than BMW? Yes. But I'm not bothered because for every 1 specialist maintained minter I miss I don't need to spend 200 miles driving to see what turns out to be a pile of crap the owner cut every corner imaginable on when it came to running costs.
Generally I've found one owner cars where the owner simply throws it at the main dealer with scant regard for cost tend to make the best used buys, so I seek these out. I'm confident I avoid more crap ones than I miss doing it this way.
Generally I've found one owner cars where the owner simply throws it at the main dealer with scant regard for cost tend to make the best used buys, so I seek these out. I'm confident I avoid more crap ones than I miss doing it this way.
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