RE: Golf R Evo on the way

RE: Golf R Evo on the way

Friday 24th January 2014

Golf R Evo on the way

Second hot VW in as many days has sights firmly on the A45 AMG



Excited about the Polo R? Well there may be another fast VW about to steal its thunder as a Golf R Evo has been confirmed.

Evo could have 370hp and be sub-1,400kg
Evo could have 370hp and be sub-1,400kg
Details from Autocarsuggest a quicker Golf R (definitely no pirate-spec Golf RR, shame) could produce 370hp. The significance of this figure being it's a nice round 10hp more than the A45 AMG. A torque figure of 'over 332lb ft' is also being bandied around too. Guess how much torque the Mercedes makes? And the BMW M135i for that matter too.

That 70hp gain will come predominantly through tweaks to the cylinder head and induction of the EA888 2.0-litre turbo. The man in charge of doing this will be VW's head of engine development Fritz Eichler. Nothing untoward there, sounds like his kind of task. But he used to work for Mercedes Benz. And was responsible for the A45's 2.0-litre turbo as well. You think the A-Class is a rival perhaps?

Other elements of the drivetrain are likely to remain unchanged, with the same Haldex multi-plate 4WD system and choice of manual or DSG gearboxes.

However, there is a rumour that the ultimate Golf could meet the connotations associated with its 'Evo' tag and be a lightweight special. There is talk of carbon panels and a stripped-out interior for example. A kerbweight of 'under 1,400kg' is again another promising figure, especially with the BMW and Mercedes at over 1,500kg.

More about a limited series production run should be announced when a Golf R Evo is revealed at Beijing in April.

[Source: Autocar]

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soad

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32,997 posts

178 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Not short on power! Will be quite nippy.

Nickworld

28 posts

231 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Will also no doubt be staggeringly expensive.

AFC1886

3,372 posts

152 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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So, so dull....

Sampaio

377 posts

140 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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I can only imagine that in the future you'll just pop in a VW dealer and tell them exactly how much bhp you want in your Golf:

"Hi, I want a 243 bhp Golf"
"That'll be the Golf GTI Plus with the Performance pack then"
"Oh, I thought it would be the Golf GTI RS"
"No, sir, that one has 244bhp!"

blackchrome917

69 posts

150 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Nearly 400 bhp in a Golf?

Its still a shopping car underneath.

Count me in!

AV12

5,319 posts

210 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Not sure about this...sounds good and enough power. Awaits more details.

Expect 55k list.

TimS2000

452 posts

209 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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AFC1886 said:
So, so dull....
So you've driven one already then? rolleyes

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

188 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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This could be interesting...

mnkiboy

4,409 posts

168 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Wonder if it will share mechanicals with an Audi RS3, which to put the Golf in its place, will have 371bhp.

folos

900 posts

144 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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For those crying dull, that's the appeal isn't it? A dull looking car that goes very, very fast...

For what it's worth I think the new R looks fantastic!

Cupramax

10,496 posts

254 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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mnkiboy said:
Wonder if it will share mechanicals with an Audi RS3, which to put the Golf in its place, will have 371bhp.
PH article said:
That 70hp gain will come predominantly through tweaks to the cylinder head and induction of the EA888 2.0-litre turbo.
Reading the article would help wink

The1Driver

727 posts

154 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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AV12 said:
Not sure about this...sounds good and enough power. Awaits more details.

Expect 55k list.
Too high.

40k

mnkiboy

4,409 posts

168 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Cupramax said:
mnkiboy said:
Wonder if it will share mechanicals with an Audi RS3, which to put the Golf in its place, will have 371bhp.
PH article said:
That 70hp gain will come predominantly through tweaks to the cylinder head and induction of the EA888 2.0-litre turbo.
Reading the article would help wink
I'm commenting on the next RS3, not the previous one. It may well share this same engine.

FamilyDub

3,587 posts

167 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Will they fix the stupid tailpipes? Two ovals would be better...

GTEYE

2,105 posts

212 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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My tip is for a 1st April launch date...

In all seriousness though, mixed feelings about this.

The more than likely staggering price that will follow will push it into an area where it will struggle to find buyers...perhaps like VW's own adventure with the previous shape Golf R Cabrio.

The reality is that the market for £35-40k Golfs is rather small.

When new Mk5 GTIs were knocking about for £17k or so (I bought one), they were quite a common sight. I hardly ever see a Mk6 or Mk7 GTi/R which were/are knocking on £30k+.

Good luck VW, hope it works out...

Edited by GTEYE on Friday 24th January 12:48

ManOpener

12,467 posts

171 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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AFC1886 said:
So, so dull....
370bhp
1400kg
264.3bhp/tonne


I think not.

matrignano

4,442 posts

212 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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A45 AMG is £37.5k with the DCT box, there's no way the Golf will be more expensive than that.

The Audi RS3 is rumoured to keep the previous model's 5 cylinder turbo, so could be interesting to have 2 quite different options for a super hatch within the VAG group?

FamilyDub

3,587 posts

167 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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matrignano said:
The Audi RS3 is rumoured to keep the previous model's 5 cylinder turbo, so could be interesting to have 2 quite different options for a super hatch within the VAG group?
^ I've been saying that for years. Always wondered why the MK6 Golf R didn't get the 2.5 5-pot from Audi...

That makes it a different beast altogether. biggrin

Juicetin1

612 posts

192 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Bang on with this. I bought one when they were affordable, not now.
GTEYE said:
My tip is for a 1st April launch date...

In all seriousness though, mixed feelings about this.

The more than likely staggering price that will follow will push it into an area where it will struggle to find buyers...perhaps like VW's own adventure with the previous shape Golf R Cabrio.

The reality is that the market for £35-40k Golfs is rather small.

When new Mk5 GTIs were knocking about for £17k or so (I bought one), they were quite a common sight. I hardly ever see a Mk6 or Mk7 GTi/R which were/are knocking on £30k+.

Good luck VW, hope it works out...

Edited by GTEYE on Friday 24th January 12:48

Dave Hedgehog

14,646 posts

206 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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mnkiboy said:
Cupramax said:
mnkiboy said:
Wonder if it will share mechanicals with an Audi RS3, which to put the Golf in its place, will have 371bhp.
PH article said:
That 70hp gain will come predominantly through tweaks to the cylinder head and induction of the EA888 2.0-litre turbo.
Reading the article would help wink
I'm commenting on the next RS3, not the previous one. It may well share this same engine.
i bloody hope not the 4 pots are soulless even if you give them 500bhp

they have just chucked the 5 pot in the Q3 so hopefully the next RS3 will get the 5 pot without the marketing restrictions on it, circa 410bhp