RE: Shed Of The Week: Alfa Romeo 145 Cloverleaf

RE: Shed Of The Week: Alfa Romeo 145 Cloverleaf

Friday 3rd October 2014

Shed Of The Week: Alfa 145 Cloverleaf

Alfa Romeo at its idiosyncratic best or just a Fiat in a party dress? Shed decides



This week we heard that the beaches around Tokyo were deserted. Not because the weather is bad: oh no, far from it. It's been lovely and warm over there recently. No, Japan's beaches are empty in September because September is not the correct month for being on the beach.

Well it's a distinctive profile
Well it's a distinctive profile
That's how they roll over there. You could never imagine that sort of thing happening in Europe. We're a bit more freewheeling by nature. There is beach etiquette in Italy, though. Last year, having driven down there in a ratty old MX-5, Shed and his lovely wife were asked to move off an Abruzzo beach following a complaint from local sun-worshippers, something about the shadows being too big or some such.

Anyway, the point being, Italians are a conflicted bunch. One minute they're gibbing on about all the artistic wonders they've brought to the world - opera, stuffed crust pizzas, spag bol, delicious ice cream, Michael Angelo, that bird what's her name oh yeah Mona Lisa, Leonardo de Caprio, Robert de Nerio, and rust - the next, they're invoking some ancient local by-law to forcibly eject two perfectly peaceable people from what should surely be a public resource.

The Alfa Romeo 145 is similarly conflicted. From the front, it's got all the classic '90s Alfa cues: iconic heart-shaped grille, narrow-eye headlights, archetypal vee bonnet. Then you move slowly round to the side past the seductive teledial wheel to take in the sexual curvature of its flanks and OH MY GOD WHAT JUST HAPPENED.

Speedo at 10mph when stationary?
Speedo at 10mph when stationary?
Depending on how jaundiced you are, the 145 is either one of the last proper old school hot hatches or the nearest Alfa ever got to a van. When it was launched in 1994, Fiat's excellent Tipo had been raking in the plaudits for a good six years, courtesy of a new and much-needed Italian focus on quality (galvanised panels, whoo!) and styling that somehow managed to be both usefully boxy and rather stylish at the same time.

Built on the Tipo platform, the 145 had a bogglingly large (by today's standards) range of engines: no less than seven petrol units from 1.4 to 2.0 litres, and one 1.9 diesel. Five of the petrols were twin-cammers, and four of them were Twin Sparks. The bottom three - 1.4, 1.6 and 1.7 - were flat-fours, as per the late, great Alfasud. The rest were conventional inline fours fizzing out between 103hp and 155hp (in the post-March '98 2.0 litre cars).

Weighing in at between 1,140kg and 1,275kg, all 145s promised - and delivered, to a greater or lesser extent - sharp handling. The 2000MY 2.0 litre specimen on offer here will have that later 155hp motor (up from 150hp) plus the quicker steering rack reserved for the 1.8 and 2.0 TS models. Better yet, our Shed is the Cloverleaf or Quadrifoglio Verde, which means it gets all the leather, the Momo wheel and the swanky paintjob.

If a 145 is for you this one seems great
If a 145 is for you this one seems great
At this point it may be worth listening to the views of the boys over at Autocoat, just after Colin Goodwin's 2010 lashout of £1,100 on a 165,000-mile '96 Cloverleaf for a thrashathon feature. "At the time of our road test we went as far as to say that the Cloverleaf 'handles as engagingly as any front-drive car in existence'," said AC's Jamie Corstorphine. "That might have been a bit strong, but even with a rather embarrassing amount of body roll, the Cloverleaf is still fun to drive. Why? Because you feel part of the action.

"Col's purchase still revs cleanly, with more rasp and zing than many of today's hot hatches. But will it withstand a full-on standing start? Actually, it took several in its stride without too much protestation. One of which was good enough for a 0-60mph run of 8.5sec - just 0.5sec off the time a brand new Cloverleaf achieved in 1996. Better still, 165,000 miles have added just 1.1sec to the 0-100mph time.

"The engine may or may not be original, but I reckon the gearbox must be. At the time we said the Cloverleaf's 'box was 'terrific', praising it for 'a crisp action and short throws'. Fourteen years later, "dreadful" and "baggy" are more appropriate. If anything, it's the gearbox's sluggishness and imprecision that are to blame for the loss of performance.

155hp at 6,400rpm. New cambelt. Sweet
155hp at 6,400rpm. New cambelt. Sweet
"The brakes lasted okay... but the fuel filler decided to spew fuel everywhere the moment we went for a lap time on our dry circuit.

"So, great engine, peachy chassis, let down by everything else. Classic Alfa, then. Still, despite Col's predictions, I enjoyed it. I'm just glad I didn't have to drive it home."

For his part, Goodwin loved it. "It's fun to drive. It can't weigh much and has fabulous throttle response. Hot hatches are about spirit, not power. You don't need the 250bhp plus that is the norm today; this 145 proves that. With new bushes and probably dampers it would be even more fun to drive, and it would have a few more miles left in it if you immediately changed the cambelt and the cam variator."

Which the owner of this Shed has done. He sounds from the ad like a usefully pernickety sort of owner. Corrosion is not that big an issue, but obviously check the floorpans and also that the airbag, ABS and injection warning lights don't stay on, as any of those will be an expensive fix. If the lights don't come on at all, check that the pigging bulbs haven't been removed. Lower front wishbone arms get worn: excessive wear on the tyre inners will reveal that. Interiors are pretty tough.

Cloverleaf means full Momo leather. Nice
Cloverleaf means full Momo leather. Nice
So then it just boils down to the looks. You're either a fan or you're not. If you like the idea of a whiff of Marmite in a sawn-off ciabatta sub, bear in mind that they didn't build many 145s, and that the accompanying 146 hatch was even more hideous looking.

Here's the ad.

Phase 2 145 cloverleaf in the rarest colour!
MOMO full leather interior in in excellent condition with a little bit of wear on the drivers seat which can be seen in photos.
the exterior of the car remains completely standard with the fantastic teledial wheels, granted with the age of the car it has a few marks here and there the most prominent is on the rear bumper on the right hand side other than that the usual car park dings / stonechips.
ive taken a photo of the engine bay without cleaning it as when i am buying a vehicle i always want to see an "honest" engine bay.
the car has a full service history but to answer some of your questions....;
Timing belt and variator replaced along with balance shaft belt and tensioner @ 72K then another timing kit at 88k miles last may along with the clutch and both front wishbones and bushings as they needed changing, the clutch felt fine but i replaced it as i could see no record of it being changed.
last november the engine had a refresh and oil + filter and new antifreeze as well as a full check over(in excess of £700).

the car is on 93115 miles but will go up as i use it on weekends, the reason for selling is i have a new company car arriving soon and no place to store the alfa, this is my second 145 cloverleaf and is such a wonderful drivers car with a very strong engine that pulls in all gears and handles superbly.
The car has been re-listed as the person who was meant to view it didn't show
sensible offers only please

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Discussion

luckystrike

Original Poster:

536 posts

182 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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Good shed.

That's the thing that gets me with alfas - you say the 146 is ugly, and clearly it is, but it didn't stop me looking on eBay and if a mate rocked up in one he'd get a friendly pisstake rather than a proper one.

I actually have to get to work and back though so not for me yet laugh

court

1,487 posts

217 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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Dammit, it's in Bristol. I have to find another reason to not go and see it now...

Ah, chrome surround on the number plate, that'll do it.

irish boy

3,543 posts

237 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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Had a 1.6 one of these when I was 18, really wanted the cloverleaf but couldn't insure it.

robemcdonald

8,867 posts

197 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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I had a cloverleaf and loved it.
Watch out for chassis corrosion and lower wishbone bushes though.

marshall100

1,124 posts

202 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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A mate of mine bought one. Great little car that went like hot snot in a straight line. His didn't like corners at high speed where it seemed to have some sort of fit about it.

callahan

890 posts

207 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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I had a 146ti (5 door version of the cloverleaf) as my first company car many years ago, it was a great car, you could drive the nuts of it everywhere and, amazingly, it never let me down. I have considered another as a shed and one day I will.

Rumblestripe

2,990 posts

163 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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Looks in very nice nick. The only alarm bell for me is that strut brace, hardly indicative of a cossetted and pampered life?

r11co

6,244 posts

231 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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Stuffed-crust pizza is an invention by those morbidly obese Americans.

Beach-fronts in populated areas in Italy are leased out to companies/organisations who provide facilities such as showers/changing cabins/restaurants/lifeguards for which you pay a small daily fee to use the beach. Did you not read the signs, shed (or are you just tight?)

There are 'Spiagge Libere' where you don't have to pay and you won't get moved on, but bring your own deckchairs...

k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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I lusted after these when they were new. My girlfriend bought a new GTV from the dealers and I was sat in a 145 Cloverleaf in the dealers day dreaming. Quirky and cool hot hatches to look at.

Fast forward a few years and I ended up buying two 145 Cloverleafs. The handling is raw and direct. Then engines are great little rev-meisters. The numbers on paper may not be amazing but the sheer fun levels are. Real hot hatches in other words. Not a single thing failed on either. No oil drunk. Nothing.

I later went to a brand new 147 GTA. Yes the interior and straight line speed were a major step on. But I went back to a 145 Cloverleaf as it was simply more fun. If these had a sheep following badge like VW they would be ten times the price. So do your own thing and reap the rewards. The added bonus - Alfa is still the coolest car brand out there.

Fond memories smile

Twoshoe

863 posts

185 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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I think the criticism of its styling is a bit harsh; I think it looks great (but maybe that's just me). That colour suits it too.

MG511

1,754 posts

242 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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r11co said:
Stuffed-crust pizza is an invention by those morbidly obese Americans.

Beach-fronts in populated areas in Italy are leased out to companies/organisations who provide facilities such as showers/changing cabins/restaurants/lifeguards for which you pay a small daily fee to use the beach. Did you not read the signs, shed (or are you just tight?)

There are 'Spiagge Libere' where you don't have to pay and you won't get moved on, but bring your own deckchairs...
Eh?...

Stoned

110 posts

130 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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Quite possibly the best thing about the car is the number plate is actually in the middle and not shifted off to one side. I hate that about modern Alfas

Blackpuddin

16,674 posts

206 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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MG511 said:
r11co said:
Stuffed-crust pizza is an invention by those morbidly obese Americans.

Beach-fronts in populated areas in Italy are leased out to companies/organisations who provide facilities such as showers/changing cabins/restaurants/lifeguards for which you pay a small daily fee to use the beach. Did you not read the signs, shed (or are you just tight?)

There are 'Spiagge Libere' where you don't have to pay and you won't get moved on, but bring your own deckchairs...
Eh?...

k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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On modern alfas you can fit the number plate *right* at the bottom lip in the middle. Or get sticker number plate fitted to the contours of the car. Or leave it off. I love the way they style the cars exactly how they want and to hell with the daft plastic rectangles.

Geoffcapes

719 posts

165 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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Rumblestripe said:
Looks in very nice nick. The only alarm bell for me is that strut brace, hardly indicative of a cossetted and pampered life?
Strutt braces tighten up the handling no end in these, 146's, 147's, 156's & GT's. Alfa should have put them in as standard!

HeMightBeBanned

617 posts

179 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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I had a real soft-spot for these in the late '90s. I travelled to Glastonbury '98 in a friend's and thought it was the coolest car I'd ever spent time in. I had an '85 Vauxhall Nova 1.2L (with a boot) so you can see that the bar wasn't set very high.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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callahan said:
I had a 146ti (5 door version of the cloverleaf) as my first company car many years ago, it was a great car, you could drive the nuts of it everywhere and, amazingly, it never let me down. I have considered another as a shed and one day I will.
I came so close to buying a Ti. I test drove it back to back with a Mk3 Golf VR6 and was swayed by the engine and perceived reliability of the Golf. The Ti did sound awesome for a 4 pot though.

Superb shed.

J4CKO

41,745 posts

201 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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Cant fault that for a grand, seats are worth buying it for alone.

craig_m67

949 posts

189 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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k-ink said:
I lusted after these when they were new. My girlfriend bought a new GTV from the dealers and I was sat in a 145 Cloverleaf in the dealers day dreaming. Quirky and cool hot hatches to look at.

Fast forward a few years and I ended up buying two 145 Cloverleafs. The handling is raw and direct. Then engines are great little rev-meisters. The numbers on paper may not be amazing but the sheer fun levels are. Real hot hatches in other words. Not a single thing failed on either. No oil drunk. Nothing.

I later went to a brand new 147 GTA. Yes the interior and straight line speed were a major step on. But I went back to a 145 Cloverleaf as it was simply more fun. If these had a sheep following badge like VW they would be ten times the price. So do your own thing and reap the rewards. The added bonus - Alfa is still the coolest car brand out there.

Fond memories smile
Best of both worlds... The correct V6 fits smile


s m

23,306 posts

204 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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craig_m67 said:
Best of both worlds... The correct V6 fits smile

Sunroof as well cool

Excellent stuff