having to pay to park in the park car park....
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All of the local dog walking / horse riding / keeping kids amused / forest car parks round here charge.
But, to be fair, the walks are well maintained and free from litter. There's even a Warden who walks round keeping an eye on things (but mainly fining those without parking tickets).
But, to be fair, the walks are well maintained and free from litter. There's even a Warden who walks round keeping an eye on things (but mainly fining those without parking tickets).
hedgefinder said:
yes, exactly ... they already do pay via council tax...
And, if parking was free, they'd be paying more in council tax.Look, it's very simple. If parking is unlimited and free, then there's going to be damn near unlimited demand, too - especially in any kind of large city, which is where parks have car parking...
So would you rather go to the park but be unable to find a parking space because everybody was leaving their cars there all day while they're at work?
Or would you rather get off your high horse, and accept that living in a city means that parking needs to be restricted somehow, and charging for it's as good a way as any of doing that?
Smanks said:
Why is it pathetic? Parks are council run, which bizarrely we all pay for through our Council Tax. Changing to use the facilities is double charging. I don't think it's pathetic, it boils my piss that this government are doing their best to bleed as much money out of the average man as they can. wiliferus said:
Why is it pathetic? Parks are council run, which bizarrely we all pay for through our Council Tax. Changing to use the facilities is double charging. I don't think it's pathetic, it boils my piss that this government are doing their best to bleed as much money out of the average man as they can.
<sigh> So EVERYTHING a council provides should be free at the point of access for everybody, should it?Do you have any idea how much that'd put your council tax up?
BTW, the reason councils - which are different to "this government" are having to tighten financial belts so much is precisely because "this government" is changing the way they're funded, and reducing the funds going to them. Because the last government (well, the one before last, but I presume you're thinking 2010-on, rather than just 2015-on) handed the country over spending FAR more each year than was coming in in tax.
wiliferus said:
Smanks said:
Why is it pathetic? Parks are council run, which bizarrely we all pay for through our Council Tax. Changing to use the facilities is double charging. I don't think it's pathetic, it boils my piss that this government are doing their best to bleed as much money out of the average man as they can. wiliferus said:
Why is it pathetic? Parks are council run, which bizarrely we all pay for through our Council Tax. Changing to use the facilities is double charging. I don't think it's pathetic, it boils my piss that this government are doing their best to bleed as much money out of the average man as they can.
Council costs are going up. Demand for stuff such as care costs is increasing.If we are going to "socialise" costs I think it should be stuff that is essential, rather than something that is "nice to have". To give an extreme example - why doesn't the Council pay for my Foie Gras? After all, the ducks live in the Park which I pay for through Council Tax...
wiliferus said:
Why is it pathetic? Parks are council run, which bizarrely we all pay for through our Council Tax. Changing to use the facilities is double charging. I don't think it's pathetic, it boils my piss that this government are doing their best to bleed as much money out of the average man as they can.
Everyone just seems to whinge about everything and it gets rather tedious, and yes it is pathetic moaning about car parks, don't park there if you don't want to fork out £2.Used to piss me off too.
Parking in the county park at the bottom of my lane was originally free and had been for years but then a couple of cars got broken into so our local authority immediately installed machines that demanded your registration number so you couldn't give unused time on your ticket to anybody else when leaving, were incapable of giving any change and charged £1.50 an hour for a ticket but of course offered a premium rate mobile phone and credit card payment option instead to cover the cost of providing additional "security"... Yeah, right.
The result was cars still got broken into and suddenly dozens of often high value ones like Range Rovers and late model Audi and Mercedes whose owners were obviously too skint to afford a ticket started quite obliviously cluttering and sometimes completely blocking our lane or the footpath to the park and let their overexcited and desperate for a dump mutts to st everywhere. On their way back they'd fling bags of barbecue and picnic litter and dog poo into our neighbors garden that they'd had to carry away from the park because they couldn't be arsed to find a bin and somebody might report them or even worse somebody they knew might witness them just leaving their crap scattered all over.
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Parking in the county park at the bottom of my lane was originally free and had been for years but then a couple of cars got broken into so our local authority immediately installed machines that demanded your registration number so you couldn't give unused time on your ticket to anybody else when leaving, were incapable of giving any change and charged £1.50 an hour for a ticket but of course offered a premium rate mobile phone and credit card payment option instead to cover the cost of providing additional "security"... Yeah, right.
The result was cars still got broken into and suddenly dozens of often high value ones like Range Rovers and late model Audi and Mercedes whose owners were obviously too skint to afford a ticket started quite obliviously cluttering and sometimes completely blocking our lane or the footpath to the park and let their overexcited and desperate for a dump mutts to st everywhere. On their way back they'd fling bags of barbecue and picnic litter and dog poo into our neighbors garden that they'd had to carry away from the park because they couldn't be arsed to find a bin and somebody might report them or even worse somebody they knew might witness them just leaving their crap scattered all over.
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