Ford Or Vauxhall? Which Is Worse
Discussion
While I think Vauxhall/Opel do an excellent job of projecting GM values (contempt for the customer, barely competitive products, etc) into the EU market I think that Ford's efforts to maintain their heritage (rust, wobbly trim, penny pinching on every component) make them the clear winner between the two.
Making their late 90s output "not quite as rubbish to drive as our usual cars" has paid dividends for Ford, it's the only positive thing anyone can find to say about them 20 years later.
Making their late 90s output "not quite as rubbish to drive as our usual cars" has paid dividends for Ford, it's the only positive thing anyone can find to say about them 20 years later.
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Had a wheezy 1.3 Escort as my first car, then a 2.8 Galaxy from 99-2002 which was for a 2.8, pretty wheezy too. Got a cheap Focus now that I bought off a family friend, Ford's from about 94 onwards have aged better. Look at the MK1 Focus and the equivalent Astra. Or the 98 Mondeo and 98 Vectra. 99 Fiesta and 99 Corsa. Oh for gods make, anything they make will be perfectly acceptable for getting you about, some are pretty good, some less so but not are actually that bad nowadays, safe, reliable, relatively comfy, fairly economical but they wont tickle your ego like the German stuff does.
i am sure if a Germanic badge was stuck on a Vauxhall some would declare it wonderful, particularly brand and image obsessed non petrolheads, put the mundane, not special, I am not a premium consumer badge back on it and it would revert to being st, I have seen people at work say how rubbish their perfectly acceptable car is as if they are telling me that product is not up their standards, it is not worthy when in actual fact they secretly love it, have seen some almost sell their soul to get into the most basic, lowest powered Audi A1.
We have Fiesta, it is a fantastic little thing, ok, some of the interiors isnt super premium but it goes, stops and steers fantastically. #
We had a Galaxy before that, darling of the airport taxi rank, they arent cool but they do a fantastic job of carrying people and stuff, however, everyone wants a premium SUV, not an MPV.
My Son has an Astra, 2008 SRi, it has lasted better than a lot of more expensive stuff of the era, 8k and is in fine fettle, they are a little rough and ready but it drives ok, isnt bad on fuel, has a decent crash rating and he likes it.
So, is it the cars are really that bad or is it prejudice due to them not having a badge you aspire to ?
i am sure if a Germanic badge was stuck on a Vauxhall some would declare it wonderful, particularly brand and image obsessed non petrolheads, put the mundane, not special, I am not a premium consumer badge back on it and it would revert to being st, I have seen people at work say how rubbish their perfectly acceptable car is as if they are telling me that product is not up their standards, it is not worthy when in actual fact they secretly love it, have seen some almost sell their soul to get into the most basic, lowest powered Audi A1.
We have Fiesta, it is a fantastic little thing, ok, some of the interiors isnt super premium but it goes, stops and steers fantastically. #
We had a Galaxy before that, darling of the airport taxi rank, they arent cool but they do a fantastic job of carrying people and stuff, however, everyone wants a premium SUV, not an MPV.
My Son has an Astra, 2008 SRi, it has lasted better than a lot of more expensive stuff of the era, 8k and is in fine fettle, they are a little rough and ready but it drives ok, isnt bad on fuel, has a decent crash rating and he likes it.
So, is it the cars are really that bad or is it prejudice due to them not having a badge you aspire to ?
I haven't driven an example of either recently but I don't consider ignorance a bar to giving my opinion, which is that Vauxhalls are ste, Fords are OK. I base this on A) Quite liking the new Mustang and Focus RS, B) having a two month old Corsa courtesy car break down on my wife a few years ago, C) having a slightly older Corsa break down on my wife a few years before that, and D) Insignias and Corsas being the bellend-on-a-budget's choice of car round my way.
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