Escort Cosworth - Focus RS
Discussion
Given £35k which would you swing for? I've read reviews that say the Focus is the better drivers car, and read reviews that say the same about the Cossie. I'd say without a doubt the Escort looks much better, it's obviously rarer and it'll get more attention if that's your thing. It'd be the Escort all day for me.
- Edit - MK3 Focus RS
Edited by aaron_2000 on Thursday 5th October 18:38
If I was to spend £35 grand on a fun hatch it would probably be the new megane rs depending on how it pans out
I just couldn’t spend that sort of money on old ford hatchback’s as nice as they may be,
I would probably rather have a mk1 or 2 escort
But the same problem applies there also
I just couldn’t spend that sort of money on old ford hatchback’s as nice as they may be,
I would probably rather have a mk1 or 2 escort
But the same problem applies there also
Having owned several Cosworths including a Graham Goode tuned big turbo escort Cosworth with 340 bhp and having recently spent a day driving my mates brand new Focus RS on track I can say 100% i would chose drive the Focus RS.
In comparison the escort Cosworth is a tired old heap with - even with a lot of money spent it will never drive anything like as good as a Focus RS on track (or road although to be fair I didn't drive it on the road just track).
In comparison the escort Cosworth is a tired old heap with - even with a lot of money spent it will never drive anything like as good as a Focus RS on track (or road although to be fair I didn't drive it on the road just track).
rallycross said:
Having owned several Cosworths including a Graham Goode tuned big turbo escort Cosworth with 340 bhp and having recently spent a day driving my mates brand new Focus RS on track I can say 100% i would chose drive the Focus RS.
In comparison the escort Cosworth is a tired old heap with - even with a lot of money spent it will never drive anything like as good as a Focus RS on track (or road although to be fair I didn't drive it on the road just track).
Honest answer. The escort cosworth was developed for about 5 quid on the back of a napkin during dinner. Archaic suspension, tiny brakes, and a pig of a gearbox, which was shared with the transit van in 2wd form. That didn't matter though, 227 bhp was loads at the time, and back then image was everything. To be fair look at the mediocre products, Porsche ferrrari and Lambo were knocking out. In comparison the escort Cosworth is a tired old heap with - even with a lot of money spent it will never drive anything like as good as a Focus RS on track (or road although to be fair I didn't drive it on the road just track).
I drove an escort cossy back in the day with 300bhp and tbh my Celica gt4 st205 was way way better overall. The gt4 is now worth a goldfish and a balloon, the same escort cossy is now too valuable to drive decent mileage with annually, and worth more with std boring power than modified.
The focus RS is by all accounts decent drive but literally hundreds of them for sale on PH and AT and prices you assume only going South for at least 20 yrs or so yet.
35k will get you some seriously quick and impressive metal so unless you are a die hard Ford RS fanboy go try some other stuff (GTR, 911, R8 just) etc etc
The focus RS is by all accounts decent drive but literally hundreds of them for sale on PH and AT and prices you assume only going South for at least 20 yrs or so yet.
35k will get you some seriously quick and impressive metal so unless you are a die hard Ford RS fanboy go try some other stuff (GTR, 911, R8 just) etc etc
Escort Cosworth has a lovely to use box, it is not a pig to use at all, they just break if you put more than 400 ftlb of torque through them or launch them really hard with more than 300bhp. I use an oppliger close ratio semi straight cut box, it takes 500ftlb and 700bhp all day long, and sprints through the gears due to the lowered 160mph top speed and closely stacked ratios. They work well in the escos, many are bing used. It is not all that noises and makes cool noises.
Ahbefive said:
Can you get any of those cars with 5 year warranty and that do 30mpg with 5doors?
Apples and Oranges.
I'm assuming that someone looking at either a cossy or a focus RS isn't wanting to talk number of doors or 30mpg. No one buys a cossy for doors or mpg. You've obviously got your mind made up lolApples and Oranges.
200Plus Club said:
I'm assuming that someone looking at either a cossy or a focus RS isn't wanting to talk number of doors or 30mpg. No one buys a cossy for doors or mpg. You've obviously got your mind made up lol
I was suggesting that your suggestions may not be suitable for someone looking to buy a brand new Focus RS.The supercar running costs out of warranty are not comparable to a new hot hatch.
I'd love a GTR but they are in a totally other league of expense even compared to a Cosworth.
Like I said, apples and oranges.
Well tbh I suppose it's not an easy answer without knowing a bit more about the owner, what they want and what they like.
Comparing the two cars is a bit apples and oranges also, one is just a classic that was ok in era, the other one of many modern performance cars. Running costs may be a factor if it's not a weekend car as I assumed, if it is then service and fuel costs maybe not as much of a worry.
Comparing the two cars is a bit apples and oranges also, one is just a classic that was ok in era, the other one of many modern performance cars. Running costs may be a factor if it's not a weekend car as I assumed, if it is then service and fuel costs maybe not as much of a worry.
Very difficult.
Sold my Cosworth 2 years ago ,was almost a nightmare in reliability ,pics posted today in the thread "Then it bang " or whatever it's title
of my front diff and prop in a very poor state.
There is no other car that looks like that with that rear wing.
Hardly any Escort Cos' get used nowadays , a lot of owners just thinking of the values now or don't want to break down ,as electrics now are
quite weak on them ,with fuseboxes burning out and other faults rife.
345BHP as standard on the Focus but not dramatic enough to look at ,only available in 1 decent colour.
Sold my Cosworth 2 years ago ,was almost a nightmare in reliability ,pics posted today in the thread "Then it bang " or whatever it's title
of my front diff and prop in a very poor state.
There is no other car that looks like that with that rear wing.
Hardly any Escort Cos' get used nowadays , a lot of owners just thinking of the values now or don't want to break down ,as electrics now are
quite weak on them ,with fuseboxes burning out and other faults rife.
345BHP as standard on the Focus but not dramatic enough to look at ,only available in 1 decent colour.
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