Are Michelin Pilot Primacy directional?
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Just picked a couple of part worn Pilots and its just struck me that they are an asymmetric design.
Looking at the tyres there appears to be no indication to direction (apart from, maybe, a barcode on one side of each tyre) but the pattern logically goes one way?
Should you spec a left and a right when buying these???
Looking at the tyres there appears to be no indication to direction (apart from, maybe, a barcode on one side of each tyre) but the pattern logically goes one way?
Should you spec a left and a right when buying these???
just have to re-edit that, there's only 1 way to fit the tyres so when you look at the car from the rear the tread is different either side as they're not handed
have them on my A3 - pretty good grip wet or dry, got 28k miles out of my last set so bought 4 more
have them on my A3 - pretty good grip wet or dry, got 28k miles out of my last set so bought 4 more
Edited by sleep envy on Wednesday 31st March 21:30
Fastra said:
Thanks, only had a quick look at them really. I'll have a proper look in the morning.
So you would, in effect, end up with 2 wheels both with the outside 'angular' bit both on the right hand side - as on the picture.
No, Inside and outside will be marked on the sidewall. So the the left hand tyre will be fitted as a mirror image of the right hand side.So you would, in effect, end up with 2 wheels both with the outside 'angular' bit both on the right hand side - as on the picture.
Superhoop said:
Fastra said:
Thanks, only had a quick look at them really. I'll have a proper look in the morning.
So you would, in effect, end up with 2 wheels both with the outside 'angular' bit both on the right hand side - as on the picture.
No, Inside and outside will be marked on the sidewall. So the the left hand tyre will be fitted as a mirror image of the right hand side.So you would, in effect, end up with 2 wheels both with the outside 'angular' bit both on the right hand side - as on the picture.
Thanks all.
Not that I don't trust you lot , but I've just picked up this from a Mondeo forum - a Michelin engineer replied:
'When fitted correctly, any curved or sloping feature of the pattern design will face in different directions on each side of the vehicle. This does not, however, affect the water clearance to any significant degree since the 'volume' of the tread grooves decides the quantity of fluid that can be 'contained' by the pattern.
Once fitted, the tyre/wheel assembly can be fitted to any corner of the vehicle and does not, therefore, present any problems concerning the 'direction' of the spare tyre.'
Not that I don't trust you lot , but I've just picked up this from a Mondeo forum - a Michelin engineer replied:
'When fitted correctly, any curved or sloping feature of the pattern design will face in different directions on each side of the vehicle. This does not, however, affect the water clearance to any significant degree since the 'volume' of the tread grooves decides the quantity of fluid that can be 'contained' by the pattern.
Once fitted, the tyre/wheel assembly can be fitted to any corner of the vehicle and does not, therefore, present any problems concerning the 'direction' of the spare tyre.'
Right.
I've just had a proper look, and they do indeed have 'outside' marked on them.
So when fitted they will look like this:
...which looks odd given the design of them, but referring back to the what the engineers says (and, of course, fellow PH'ers) it doesn't matter!
Anyway £55 for the pair, which have only done a few thousand miles too - can't be bad!
I've just had a proper look, and they do indeed have 'outside' marked on them.
So when fitted they will look like this:
...which looks odd given the design of them, but referring back to the what the engineers says (and, of course, fellow PH'ers) it doesn't matter!
Anyway £55 for the pair, which have only done a few thousand miles too - can't be bad!
blackburn said:
Dunno, but they were shockingly short of grip on the front of my runaround Focus Estate. Swapped 'em for a pair of cheapy tyres which are much better... go figure!
They were fine on my 328 - I ran Pilot Sport 2's for ages, and then got fed up with the price of them, so tried the cheaper Primacy.Worked well for me...
Fastra said:
Right.
I've just had a proper look, and they do indeed have 'outside' marked on them.
So when fitted they will look like this:
...which looks odd given the design of them, but referring back to the what the engineers says (and, of course, fellow PH'ers) it doesn't matter!
Anyway £55 for the pair, which have only done a few thousand miles too - can't be bad!
You think they look odd, you should see the Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta fitted. Subtle? No!I've just had a proper look, and they do indeed have 'outside' marked on them.
So when fitted they will look like this:
...which looks odd given the design of them, but referring back to the what the engineers says (and, of course, fellow PH'ers) it doesn't matter!
Anyway £55 for the pair, which have only done a few thousand miles too - can't be bad!
HellDiver said:
Fastra said:
Anyway £55 for the pair, which have only done a few thousand miles too - can't be bad!
They look more like they've done 10k - there's nearly half the tread missing. Should be 8mm tread on a new tyre, and they look more like 4-5mm.jon- said:
Fastra said:
Right.
I've just had a proper look, and they do indeed have 'outside' marked on them.
So when fitted they will look like this:
...which looks odd given the design of them, but referring back to the what the engineers says (and, of course, fellow PH'ers) it doesn't matter!
Anyway £55 for the pair, which have only done a few thousand miles too - can't be bad!
You think they look odd, you should see the Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta fitted. Subtle? No!I've just had a proper look, and they do indeed have 'outside' marked on them.
So when fitted they will look like this:
...which looks odd given the design of them, but referring back to the what the engineers says (and, of course, fellow PH'ers) it doesn't matter!
Anyway £55 for the pair, which have only done a few thousand miles too - can't be bad!
neil_bolton said:
blackburn said:
Dunno, but they were shockingly short of grip on the front of my runaround Focus Estate. Swapped 'em for a pair of cheapy tyres which are much better... go figure!
They were fine on my 328 - I ran Pilot Sport 2's for ages, and then got fed up with the price of them, so tried the cheaper Primacy.Worked well for me...
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