Black Ice hit - car a write off - Insurance experts please

Black Ice hit - car a write off - Insurance experts please

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m3sye

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26,231 posts

203 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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Unfortunately last Wed I hit black ice or something similar whilst doing 70mph in my 350Z, luckily for me and my partner we escaped un hurt but the car is a write off,
They have told me they will be looking at Glasses guide as a valuation, my question about this is do they look at trade or the real world value?

I have read you should reject their first offer then provide pics of adverts of similar cars that are live to show the current value?

Anyone work in claims who can advise or any other help will be greatly appreciated.



Edited by m3sye on Monday 13th December 20:36


Edited by m3sye on Monday 13th December 20:37


Edited by m3sye on Monday 13th December 20:38

davepoth

29,395 posts

201 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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Sorry, wrong thread. wink


Edited by davepoth on Monday 13th December 21:01

havoc

30,319 posts

237 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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Sorry to hear that chap...can imagine you're not alone, given the recent weather. Take it you're OK bar a bit of injured pride???

m3sye said:
I have read you should reject their first offer then provide pics of adverts of similar cars that are live to show the current value?
Don't work in insurance, but that would be what I would do. Look at what it would cost you to replace your car with an identical one from the classifieds today. Accept they're going to knock some 'negotiation money' off the cars you provide, but if you can show them half a dozen options which are all very close in age/mileage/spec/history to your car, then you've a much better chance at persuading them than if you don't.

dave_s13

13,828 posts

271 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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Good advice.

The first 3 letters of your number plate are visible in your profile, so is your name.

Even though you were doing the speed limit it might be prudent to edit your post a tad.

Somnophore

1,364 posts

178 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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Do your own research on here and autotrader get some examples
of car in same condition as yours was within a reasonable distance from you, present this as evidence of value as if you were to replace it, that's what you'd have to pay, don't take any of that glasses guide crap.

m3sye

Original Poster:

26,231 posts

203 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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Done, although I feel this makes it look worse?

I was doing the speed limit so not sure why it has to be shown as bang on.

And yeah only pride was hurt bar the odd black eye and stiff back/next from hitting the central reservation at 70mph...
Question is what if there is say 6 cars around one figure and one 1k lower, would they ignore my evidence? they have already told me they will be using the glass's guide but I dont have a clue what that shows for my car?

richcorsavxr

966 posts

174 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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yes you can and should reject the first offer, when our freelander was smashed up they seriously undervalued the car, you'll have to fight with the person on the other end of the phone, i think we said go to look on the classifieds on here/autotrader look at the cars with the same spec and similar milage for replacement cost, it was still slightly undervalued but we settled due to other more stressfull issues we had to deal with at the time.


its going to be total ball ache

Pcot

863 posts

184 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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Don't be worrying yourself. Your insurance Co will pay you the current market value of your car.
Some negotiation may be required on your part, but you'll get paid what its worth.

Somnophore

1,364 posts

178 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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Insurance policies state current Market value, they will always try and offer glasses prices, it's up to you to argue otherwise.

PHmember

2,487 posts

173 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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m3sye said:
they have already told me they will be using the glass's guide but I dont have a clue what that shows for my car?
Pop down to your local trader & just ask him nicely if he'll tell you what Glasses value your car at?

BMWBen

4,899 posts

203 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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When I got my 5er nicked I got my own glasses valuation (they'll lie to you, and won't include any of your optional extras on top), and spent their 6 week "delay" period collecting adverts for similar cars. I even got a sales invoice from a pher who was a car dealer who had sold one a couple of weeks before.

The glasses valuation was 2k lower than anything i could find.

The started by offering me 10k or something stupid, I hit straight back and eventually got 15.5k. They strung me out a whole load of lies about this and that and how they don't have to take x or y into account. Work out what price is fair and don't accept anything else.

You need the settlement to allow you to walk up to a seller with a wad of cash and to walk away with a car in a similar state. You pay the premium, and when you claim, they have to settle fairly. That's the deal.


Edited by BMWBen on Monday 13th December 20:52

Flintstone

8,644 posts

249 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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BMWBen said:
When I got my 5er...
Your...what?

KelWedge

1,279 posts

187 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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Search your local papers and the internet autotrader whatever to get a price on a similar car, year, miles etc, the more you have the better, then if they do offer low you can point out its not enough, the idea is that you should get enough to replace like for like at todays prices. I just had to do the same thing the offer was to low, I managed to get annother £350 which got it a bit more reasonable. Still a pain but if everyone walks away unhurt its a result anyway.

dave_s13

13,828 posts

271 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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PHmember said:
m3sye said:
they have already told me they will be using the glass's guide but I dont have a clue what that shows for my car?
Pop down to your local trader & just ask him nicely if he'll tell you what Glasses value your car at?
http://www.virtual-showroom.co.uk/scripts/nuvv/nuvv1.asp?clientId=vauxhall&laf=vauxhall&nuvvpath=b



Edited by dave_s13 on Monday 13th December 20:59

Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

200 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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I just had a payout for my car, they stuck the details into Autotrader for that exactly model / age / mileage and offered the average price. I argued that mine would have been at the top end of the list and got a small increase on the 1st offer.

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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Flintstone said:
BMWBen said:
When I got my 5er...
Your...what?
I'm gonna take a wild stab in the dark with 5er = 5 series bmw.........;-)

m3sye

Original Poster:

26,231 posts

203 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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dave_s13 said:
PHmember said:
m3sye said:
they have already told me they will be using the glass's guide but I dont have a clue what that shows for my car?
Pop down to your local trader & just ask him nicely if he'll tell you what Glasses value your car at?
http://www.virtual-showroom.co.uk/scripts/nuvv/nuvv1.asp?clientId=vauxhall&laf=vauxhall&nuvvpath=b

Edited by dave_s13 on Monday 13th December 20:57
I think the problem I will have with glasses is its a JDM import, I dont believe they list them do they?

dave_s13

13,828 posts

271 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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m3sye said:
dave_s13 said:
PHmember said:
m3sye said:
they have already told me they will be using the glass's guide but I dont have a clue what that shows for my car?
Pop down to your local trader & just ask him nicely if he'll tell you what Glasses value your car at?
http://www.virtual-showroom.co.uk/scripts/nuvv/nuvv1.asp?clientId=vauxhall&laf=vauxhall&nuvvpath=b

Edited by dave_s13 on Monday 13th December 20:57
I think the problem I will have with glasses is its a JDM import, I dont believe they list them do they?
Fvck knows, have a look!

RSGulp

1,472 posts

241 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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Flintstone said:
BMWBen said:
When I got my 5er...
Your...what?
German nickname for 5 series BMW.

Pcot

863 posts

184 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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'JDM import'
I trust you declared this when taking insurance policy out?