RE: PH Fleet: VW Golf GTI Edition 35
Discussion
!On the Leon Cupra R you get, as standard, for your £25K, 265BHP, a better Bluetooth system than the Golf, Sat Nav, Bluetooth music streaming, F & R parking sensors and optical parking system, 18" alloys, better brakes and more handling focused suspension, and it's built in the same factory as the new Audi Q3 so the build quality can't be that bad.
gmh23 said:
Riggers, would you realistically buy one if you had £30k (ish) burning a hole in your pocket?
Personally, I'd much rather put my money on an s3
Can I point you back to this fronm earlier in the thread?Personally, I'd much rather put my money on an s3
riggers said:
As for the price, someone asked if it was my £34k what I would do with it.
Well, firstly, that price includes the listed extras, so the basic price is actually £28,820, and that's only a grand-and-a-bit more than a Megane Renaultsport with Cup chassis and Recaro seat pack.
So yes, it's expensive, but It's kinda what brand new hot hatches cost nowadays that's the issue rather than the specific car, as far as I'm concerned.
Secondly, I would always go with secondhand were it my own money - If I had the budget for a £30k new car on finance (for eg) I would probably rather go for something considerably cheaper and secondhand (Mk1 Focus RSes are occupying a lot of my brain at the moment).
Given the market's perception of VW as a 'premium' brand (not just the enthusiast end of it), the price of hot hatches in general, and the general excellence of the VW, if I were in the market for a brand-new C-segment hot hatch, it would get my most serious attention...
Well, firstly, that price includes the listed extras, so the basic price is actually £28,820, and that's only a grand-and-a-bit more than a Megane Renaultsport with Cup chassis and Recaro seat pack.
So yes, it's expensive, but It's kinda what brand new hot hatches cost nowadays that's the issue rather than the specific car, as far as I'm concerned.
Secondly, I would always go with secondhand were it my own money - If I had the budget for a £30k new car on finance (for eg) I would probably rather go for something considerably cheaper and secondhand (Mk1 Focus RSes are occupying a lot of my brain at the moment).
Given the market's perception of VW as a 'premium' brand (not just the enthusiast end of it), the price of hot hatches in general, and the general excellence of the VW, if I were in the market for a brand-new C-segment hot hatch, it would get my most serious attention...
ETA: Actually, an S3 would be mighty tempting...
Edited by Riggers on Wednesday 18th January 17:22
I spent about 28k on my GTI.
Didn't want an S3 - don't like the interior or the stigma that follows Audi drivers, don't like Focus STs or RSs - Not a big fan of the interior or the shouty looks of the RS, didn't want a Civic Type R - had one, suspension is too hard, needs to be above 5500 rpm to go fast, and I didn't want a second hand car particularly.
So I got a GTI, remapped it, and it's cracking. Love the interior, power all the way through the rev range with a minor flat spot from the remap, sterio's awesome, ride is great, German build quality (mostly) and it's just as good at cruising as it is at hooning.
Nobody is forcing anyone to buy the car or spend £30k+ on it, that's why there are different models.
I don't know what everyone is b
hing about?
Didn't want an S3 - don't like the interior or the stigma that follows Audi drivers, don't like Focus STs or RSs - Not a big fan of the interior or the shouty looks of the RS, didn't want a Civic Type R - had one, suspension is too hard, needs to be above 5500 rpm to go fast, and I didn't want a second hand car particularly.
So I got a GTI, remapped it, and it's cracking. Love the interior, power all the way through the rev range with a minor flat spot from the remap, sterio's awesome, ride is great, German build quality (mostly) and it's just as good at cruising as it is at hooning.
Nobody is forcing anyone to buy the car or spend £30k+ on it, that's why there are different models.
I don't know what everyone is b
hing about?ArosaMike said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
id take a lightly used S3 / R every time
or go to 40k and get the RS3
Congratulations, I'd take a lightly used GTI or not spend £40k on a boring heavy 4WD Audi! Good job there's a choice for everyone...or go to 40k and get the RS3
the 4wd VAGs are devastating road weapons, the GTi a posing pouch
MikeGTi said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
i cba with wheel spin, traction control cutting in all the time and torque steer, *100 in the wet ...
the 4wd VAGs are devastating road weapons, the GTi a posing pouch
I heard that 4wd VAG drivers can't fill a posing pouch...the 4wd VAGs are devastating road weapons, the GTi a posing pouch
..what?
Dave Hedgehog said:
i cba with wheel spin, traction control cutting in all the time and torque steer, *100 in the wet ...
the 4wd VAGs are devastating road weapons, the GTi a posing pouch
Not a big 4WD fan. The traction map in the Golf is actually very good and allows a decent amount of wheels slip. Rather than cutting power, it just maintains a slip level and holds it. With the standard engine maps there isn't any noticeble torque steer. Mechanical traction is also very good (far better than my Mk1 Skoda Octavia)......the Quattro systems and the Golf both use Haldex diffs too which are only viscous couplings, so they are only truely 4WD once the system sees a differential of slip between front and rear.the 4wd VAGs are devastating road weapons, the GTi a posing pouch
It's just different driving styles though. Some people like the feeling that they can't ever reach the limits of grip, others (like myself) like the car moving underneath them. That's why the 4WD variants of Golfs and A3s exist!
No point in rubbishing either really. As I said...it's personal preference. The press generally gave a lukewarm reception to the RS3, but that doesn't mean that the owners will think it's rubbish. On the other hand, there will be plenty who will test drive it and agree!
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