RE: Spotted: Ford Escort RS1600i...
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Good God all flippin mighty, fools and their money eh?
Lets see an aincent old Escort or maybe a
42,000 mile 996 Turbo
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3576100.htm
Or a 48'000 mile 997
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3557050.htm
Or a 25.000 mile M3
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3427836.htm
Etc, etc, the list is endless.
Yes, yes I know these would be more expensive to run but then you wouldnt be running the Escort because if you did you would instantly throw 20k down the toilet.
Yes, yes I know it's considered a "classic" by some but a MK1 or 2 is an entirely different kettle of fish to these.
Utter flippin madness. At a push maybe 8 or 9 grand, then it could actually be used without bringing about instant financial ruination.
Its only a bloody Escort.
Lets see an aincent old Escort or maybe a
42,000 mile 996 Turbo
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3576100.htm
Or a 48'000 mile 997
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3557050.htm
Or a 25.000 mile M3
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3427836.htm
Etc, etc, the list is endless.
Yes, yes I know these would be more expensive to run but then you wouldnt be running the Escort because if you did you would instantly throw 20k down the toilet.
Yes, yes I know it's considered a "classic" by some but a MK1 or 2 is an entirely different kettle of fish to these.
Utter flippin madness. At a push maybe 8 or 9 grand, then it could actually be used without bringing about instant financial ruination.
Its only a bloody Escort.
Hi
I am Paul form East Coast Classics
The car is what it is , A one of a kind car that has NOT been restored
The car does have a service book but has NOT covered enough miles yet to have a stamp in the book ( not because it doesnt have a service book ) those old enough to drive i thought would have worked that out , lol , The car has plenty of history / documents to prove its miles
The car has been serviced regular and has paperwork etc to prove ,( But again , no stamps in the book as its not covered enough miles ) the car has also been started and moved regular as it has been to many RS shows over the years
Regards The price , Yes 26k is a lot of money but please remember that anything has a market value but somthing as rare as this has no set figure
It doesnt matter if the car sells or not as the older it gets the more its worth , just like a fine wine .
The price of the car maybee high but like anything in life you get what you pay for , and this car will not be bought by anyone wishing to use it , Its a collectors item and true collectors will pay top money for the best in its class
Also , this car has caused many threads on many websites , and as they say any advertisment is good advertisment
Thanks for those who have given posotive comments , and to those who havent i do understand that maybee you dont see the value in such a car ,
Kind regards
Paul
I am Paul form East Coast Classics
The car is what it is , A one of a kind car that has NOT been restored
The car does have a service book but has NOT covered enough miles yet to have a stamp in the book ( not because it doesnt have a service book ) those old enough to drive i thought would have worked that out , lol , The car has plenty of history / documents to prove its miles
The car has been serviced regular and has paperwork etc to prove ,( But again , no stamps in the book as its not covered enough miles ) the car has also been started and moved regular as it has been to many RS shows over the years
Regards The price , Yes 26k is a lot of money but please remember that anything has a market value but somthing as rare as this has no set figure
It doesnt matter if the car sells or not as the older it gets the more its worth , just like a fine wine .
The price of the car maybee high but like anything in life you get what you pay for , and this car will not be bought by anyone wishing to use it , Its a collectors item and true collectors will pay top money for the best in its class
Also , this car has caused many threads on many websites , and as they say any advertisment is good advertisment
Thanks for those who have given posotive comments , and to those who havent i do understand that maybee you dont see the value in such a car ,
Kind regards
Paul
Edited by RS500 Registrar on Thursday 2nd February 20:51
My brother in law had a sunburst red (orange) one of these which he did a full concorse spec restore on. Everything he sourced was original Ford and it was MINT when it was finished. He ended up selling it for peanuts in the end as he needed the cash. Was a beautiful car and he spent $$$ and man hours on it. He's currently got a white S1 Turbo he's restoring and another S1 on a Q plate as his daily. He's a bit ford mad and my sis at one point had a S2 (possibly 3) RS Turbo in Red.
RS500 Registrar said:
Hi
I am Paul form East Coast Classics
The car is what it is , A one of a kind car that has NOT been restored
The car does have a service book but has NOT covered enough miles yet to have a stamp in the book ( not because it doesnt have a service book ) those old enough to drive i thought would have worked that out , lol , The car has plenty of history / documents to prove its miles
The car has been serviced regular and has paperwork etc to prove ,( But again , no stamps in the book as its not covered enough miles ) the car has also been started and moved regular as it has been to many RS shows over the years
Regards The price , Yes 26k is a lot of money but please remember that anything has a market value but somthing as rare as this has no set figure
It doesnt matter if the car sells or not as the older it gets the more its worth , just like a fine wine .
The price of the car maybee high but like anything in life you get what you pay for , and this car will not be bought by anyone wishing to use it , Its a collectors item and true collectors will pay top money for the best in its class
Also , this car has caused many threads on many websites , and as they say any advertisment is good advertisment
Thanks for those who have given posotive comments , and to those who havent i do understand that maybee you dont see the value in such a car ,
Kind regards
Paul
Ergo, you are waiting for a "A Live one", someone with a lot of money or someone with 26 grand and a serious need for an obscure, not that historically significant version of a fairly unloved model, even if it is like new. Suspect for whoever sells it there is a sizable profit and I can respect that but all the guff about fine wine, that is wealthy investors, wine fanatics who dont generally buy old Blue collar cars, The Mk3 Escort for me is more lumped in with older Fords like Anglias and doesnt, and will never have the kudos of the MK1 and Mk2 which are generally massively overated and over valued.I am Paul form East Coast Classics
The car is what it is , A one of a kind car that has NOT been restored
The car does have a service book but has NOT covered enough miles yet to have a stamp in the book ( not because it doesnt have a service book ) those old enough to drive i thought would have worked that out , lol , The car has plenty of history / documents to prove its miles
The car has been serviced regular and has paperwork etc to prove ,( But again , no stamps in the book as its not covered enough miles ) the car has also been started and moved regular as it has been to many RS shows over the years
Regards The price , Yes 26k is a lot of money but please remember that anything has a market value but somthing as rare as this has no set figure
It doesnt matter if the car sells or not as the older it gets the more its worth , just like a fine wine .
The price of the car maybee high but like anything in life you get what you pay for , and this car will not be bought by anyone wishing to use it , Its a collectors item and true collectors will pay top money for the best in its class
Also , this car has caused many threads on many websites , and as they say any advertisment is good advertisment
Thanks for those who have given posotive comments , and to those who havent i do understand that maybee you dont see the value in such a car ,
Kind regards
Paul
Edited by RS500 Registrar on Thursday 2nd February 20:51
Good luck with the sale though, hope you get the price, stranger things have happened.
andrewjgriff said:
£26k!! They were crap new, why would anyone pay that for a 30 year old one??
Why were they crap? I had a white one like this in 1983 and it held its own against the other front wheel drive hot hatches of the time. I liked the fact it was a limited edition homologation special for Group A racing and had a souped up engine and adjustable suspension (unfortunately that also used to be my chat up line which is probably why I did'nt have a girlfriend at the time
). You think that is expensive - how about this Lancia Delta Evo 3 (Yes THREE!) for £85k:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3460480.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3460480.htm
RS500 Registrar said:
Hi
I am Paul form East Coast Classics
The car is what it is , A one of a kind car that has NOT been restored
The car does have a service book but has NOT covered enough miles yet to have a stamp in the book ( not because it doesnt have a service book ) those old enough to drive i thought would have worked that out , lol , The car has plenty of history / documents to prove its miles
The car has been serviced regular and has paperwork etc to prove ,( But again , no stamps in the book as its not covered enough miles ) the car has also been started and moved regular as it has been to many RS shows over the years
Regards The price , Yes 26k is a lot of money but please remember that anything has a market value but somthing as rare as this has no set figure
It doesnt matter if the car sells or not as the older it gets the more its worth , just like a fine wine .
The price of the car maybee high but like anything in life you get what you pay for , and this car will not be bought by anyone wishing to use it , Its a collectors item and true collectors will pay top money for the best in its class
Also , this car has caused many threads on many websites , and as they say any advertisment is good advertisment
Thanks for those who have given posotive comments , and to those who havent i do understand that maybee you dont see the value in such a car ,
Kind regards
Paul
Good on you for posting about thisI am Paul form East Coast Classics
The car is what it is , A one of a kind car that has NOT been restored
The car does have a service book but has NOT covered enough miles yet to have a stamp in the book ( not because it doesnt have a service book ) those old enough to drive i thought would have worked that out , lol , The car has plenty of history / documents to prove its miles
The car has been serviced regular and has paperwork etc to prove ,( But again , no stamps in the book as its not covered enough miles ) the car has also been started and moved regular as it has been to many RS shows over the years
Regards The price , Yes 26k is a lot of money but please remember that anything has a market value but somthing as rare as this has no set figure
It doesnt matter if the car sells or not as the older it gets the more its worth , just like a fine wine .
The price of the car maybee high but like anything in life you get what you pay for , and this car will not be bought by anyone wishing to use it , Its a collectors item and true collectors will pay top money for the best in its class
Also , this car has caused many threads on many websites , and as they say any advertisment is good advertisment
Thanks for those who have given posotive comments , and to those who havent i do understand that maybee you dont see the value in such a car ,
Kind regards
Paul
Edited by RS500 Registrar on Thursday 2nd February 20:51
In the olden days did ford not specify service intervals based on time or mileage whichever came first? because as far as i know this has been standard practice since forever?
I am happy to be corrected though
Could you care to elaborate how the 26k price tag was arrived at? any form or logic?
bigblock said:
andrewjgriff said:
£26k!! They were crap new, why would anyone pay that for a 30 year old one??
Why were they crap? I had a white one like this in 1983 and it held its own against the other front wheel drive hot hatches of the time. I liked the fact it was a limited edition homologation special for Group A racing and had a souped up engine and adjustable suspension (unfortunately that also used to be my chat up line which is probably why I did'nt have a girlfriend at the time). I can imagine taking the 26 grand Escort or the 85 grand Lancia (a What ?) home to my missus, would be like the time I swapped the family cow for those magic beans.
I an see why good example of landmark cars are expensive but this pricing just makes a mockery of it, it loses credibility, it looks silly as its so far away from the actual value, low mileage ones are worth more but I think vendors kid themselves into higher and higher prices and start waffling about "once in a lifetime opportunities", "Provenance", "history", "This fine example" etc etc, its all b
ks, its an old car that someone hasnt used much, they do crop up, there was a Fiat 126 that had never been used and someone wanted 20 grand for it ffs, it was st when it was new, it will still be st now, at least back then it had the good grace to be cheap.
I reckon, being generous, for someone who really wants the lowest mileage of either,
Escort 12 grand
Lancia 30 grand
I an see why good example of landmark cars are expensive but this pricing just makes a mockery of it, it loses credibility, it looks silly as its so far away from the actual value, low mileage ones are worth more but I think vendors kid themselves into higher and higher prices and start waffling about "once in a lifetime opportunities", "Provenance", "history", "This fine example" etc etc, its all b
ks, its an old car that someone hasnt used much, they do crop up, there was a Fiat 126 that had never been used and someone wanted 20 grand for it ffs, it was st when it was new, it will still be st now, at least back then it had the good grace to be cheap.I reckon, being generous, for someone who really wants the lowest mileage of either,
Escort 12 grand
Lancia 30 grand
Big Six said:
How can you put pictures up of an RS1600i & not post a picture of the seats?!
To this day they are best I have ever sat in. Never seen them fitted to another car either.
Incredible,this is exactly what i said to the mrs when i saw the photos,the best seats ever i thought then & still think the same all these years on.To this day they are best I have ever sat in. Never seen them fitted to another car either.
I also had the same rs steering wheel in my bonnet bulge rs2000 & i liked that loads aswell.
bigblock said:
Why were they crap? I had a white one like this in 1983 and it held its own against the other front wheel drive hot hatches of the time. I liked the fact it was a limited edition homologation special for Group A racing and had a souped up engine and adjustable suspension (unfortunately that also used to be my chat up line which is probably why I did'nt have a girlfriend at the time).
Did you have the rear ARB on yours. My friend had one on his. I had a Mk1 Golf Gti as well at the same time and we both had the brake linkage slop ). The Scheel seats on the RS1600i were, as said, lovely.
Went on to a Manta GTE after the Golf as I missed the fun of my previous Mk2 RS
Edited by s m on Thursday 2nd February 23:20
LotusOmega375D said:
Why would it need a rebuild? None of the parts will be worn. New oil, filters and hoses should see it as good as new shouldn't it?
My guess is a large amount of rubber parts will have hardened. Brake seals, gaiters etc. Thing is would you want to trust brakes that were 30 years old? You'd need to have it checked for piece of mind at the very least. Not sure what recommissioning would cost but I guess it wouldn't be cheap. I remember a 959 with about 1k miles on it (admittedly quite different) selling at coys and being told that they'd had a quote of around £60k to get it roadworthy!RS500 Registrar said:
Hi
I am Paul form East Coast Classics
The car is what it is , A one of a kind car that has NOT been restored
The car does have a service book but has NOT covered enough miles yet to have a stamp in the book ( not because it doesnt have a service book ) those old enough to drive i thought would have worked that out , lol , The car has plenty of history / documents to prove its miles
The car has been serviced regular and has paperwork etc to prove ,( But again , no stamps in the book as its not covered enough miles ) the car has also been started and moved regular as it has been to many RS shows over the years
Regards The price , Yes 26k is a lot of money but please remember that anything has a market value but somthing as rare as this has no set figure
It doesnt matter if the car sells or not as the older it gets the more its worth , just like a fine wine .
The price of the car maybee high but like anything in life you get what you pay for , and this car will not be bought by anyone wishing to use it , Its a collectors item and true collectors will pay top money for the best in its class
Also , this car has caused many threads on many websites , and as they say any advertisment is good advertisment
Thanks for those who have given posotive comments , and to those who havent i do understand that maybee you dont see the value in such a car ,
Kind regards
Paul
Paul,I am Paul form East Coast Classics
The car is what it is , A one of a kind car that has NOT been restored
The car does have a service book but has NOT covered enough miles yet to have a stamp in the book ( not because it doesnt have a service book ) those old enough to drive i thought would have worked that out , lol , The car has plenty of history / documents to prove its miles
The car has been serviced regular and has paperwork etc to prove ,( But again , no stamps in the book as its not covered enough miles ) the car has also been started and moved regular as it has been to many RS shows over the years
Regards The price , Yes 26k is a lot of money but please remember that anything has a market value but somthing as rare as this has no set figure
It doesnt matter if the car sells or not as the older it gets the more its worth , just like a fine wine .
The price of the car maybee high but like anything in life you get what you pay for , and this car will not be bought by anyone wishing to use it , Its a collectors item and true collectors will pay top money for the best in its class
Also , this car has caused many threads on many websites , and as they say any advertisment is good advertisment
Thanks for those who have given posotive comments , and to those who havent i do understand that maybee you dont see the value in such a car ,
Kind regards
Paul
Edited by RS500 Registrar on Thursday 2nd February 20:51
Interesting comments, but however you flower it, we all know you are trying to hook a mug on this one...if you succeed, well done you, extra Easter eggs in the Paul household...
Ps. I bet you a cadburys cream egg you don't sell it within 5% of asking price, will personally deliver it if I loose...
Caused quite a little stir this. Whilst I wouldn't pay the money myself for the car I cannot understand why some are finding it difficult to believe it could be worth £26K to someone. Whether that someone exists or will pay the full amount is something else.
Money sat in a bank right now isn't doing very much. Money invested in property likewise.
As older classic/collectors cars get hoovered up and the potential returns on those cars reduce people are looking at different eras. Hence why E30 M3 are climbing and likewise previously ignored Porsche 968 Club Sports. In addition for those of us brought up on such cars ie. 40 somethings, many are finding themselves mortgage and child free with spare cash to enjoy.
Regardless of any motorsport history or not that car is highly likely to be one of a kind (cars in other collection aside) given the condition.
Doesn't have to be rational either. If I had a couple of million in the bank I'd have no problem dropping £50-100K to secure myself a gold with black vinyl roof Ford Escort MK1 1300E in this condition.
Money sat in a bank right now isn't doing very much. Money invested in property likewise.
As older classic/collectors cars get hoovered up and the potential returns on those cars reduce people are looking at different eras. Hence why E30 M3 are climbing and likewise previously ignored Porsche 968 Club Sports. In addition for those of us brought up on such cars ie. 40 somethings, many are finding themselves mortgage and child free with spare cash to enjoy.
Regardless of any motorsport history or not that car is highly likely to be one of a kind (cars in other collection aside) given the condition.
Doesn't have to be rational either. If I had a couple of million in the bank I'd have no problem dropping £50-100K to secure myself a gold with black vinyl roof Ford Escort MK1 1300E in this condition.
andrewjgriff said:
bigblock said:
andrewjgriff said:
£26k!! They were crap new, why would anyone pay that for a 30 year old one??
Why were they crap? I had a white one like this in 1983 and it held its own against the other front wheel drive hot hatches of the time. I liked the fact it was a limited edition homologation special for Group A racing and had a souped up engine and adjustable suspension (unfortunately that also used to be my chat up line which is probably why I did'nt have a girlfriend at the time). 
what ste gets spouted on this forum. Go on then, if you can explain how it was inferior i'll offer you an apology.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff