RE: New Audi RS4: revealed

RE: New Audi RS4: revealed

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Park'O

656 posts

176 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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E38Ross said:
Crackie said:
mat205125 said:
Praise the lord, the normally aspirated engine lives on cloud9
yes but have to agree that
Ved said:
Isn't the torque (317lbs ft) a little underwhelming
for something likely to weigh over 1800 Kg.



Edited by Crackie on Wednesday 15th February 13:04
That's the figure for the last rs4, and that wasn't underwhelming at all because it revved properly and was a decent engine with a good torque curve.
Agreed, Plus Can't see it weighing anymore than the old one @ 1700kg. Unless them new alloy's weigh twice the weight.

goffahsez

525 posts

168 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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E38Ross said:
I think you said it loud enough, and it's also allowed wink
I knew that, bloody phone auto correct
:-s




dtrump

2,121 posts

193 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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uncle tez said:
i prefer the interior on the old car aswell
If you did a direct comparison in the real world, I think you'd prefer the latest version. It is imo a considerable improvement, and the most noticable difference visually.

Could be wrong though

epom

11,688 posts

163 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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The front of it needs to be a little more aggressive for my liking, price rules me out anyhow so my opinion wont bother em too much smile

Foggy748

318 posts

162 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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I don't think the design is a patch on the B7; I mean look at the rear arches, they're hardly flared at all! It sounds like there's too much RS5 in this which isn't good at all. Hope I'm proved wrong.

jamesghwilson

67 posts

151 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Nors said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
i fitted a fair few short shifters for B5 owners which improved the shift hugely, a thick walled yoko tyre improved the steering response a bit, there's the usual geo change to dial out any understeer. I always ended up cooking the brakes on mine.. and it was only MTM stage 1

bonkers engine 120-170 was jaw dropping

i do worry about the NA V8 valve coking, not sure if this affects the latest incarnation like it did the B7s engine
Yes, there's a fair few tricks you can do to sort out the front end feel, but, I still can't comprehend the speeds you'd need to do on a public road to get into those areas with a B5 (steering feel aside)

Engine is indeed completely bonkers!

I "believe" this later incarnation of V8 has more in common with a Lambo configured head which doesn't carbon up, but that could be boll*cks.

Easy way to sort the B7 V8 is to Supercharge it, but that's over £10k!eek
Wow...supercharged V8 RS4, that's more like it! Although, it'd have been better if this was standard on the B7 and they made fewer of them. Alas, not to be!

I think they're all great cars really, happy to own any...but once again the B7 is just a bit too common.

va1o

16,034 posts

209 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Looks awesome!

cerb4.5lee

31,053 posts

182 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Excellent news i think it looks great, i still really want the old one so we are now spoilt for choice.

soad

32,962 posts

178 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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RichTBiscuit said:
No Manual gear box grumpy
Change of times it seems.

Fabric

3,819 posts

194 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Brilliant they're bringing back the RS4 for another generation, especially with a V8 - however I'll reserve judgement on the looks (although I do like the rear quarter) until I've seen more varied pics.

I really don't think red adorned with chrome does it any favours in the aesthetics department either, right now I can't help thinking the nose looks a little bit like a squashed Audi A1.


TORQ

193 posts

231 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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0-30 faster than a McLaren F1...WOW!


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Always remember that Autocar Front Cover - the RS2 was/ is very special.

Spotted the attached a few weeks back in a pub car park in Surrey...

Baby seat in the back .

Top boy! On my wavelength.


DutchSi

10 posts

148 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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I have a B7 RS4. It's interesting the different views of new/old RS4s. I know I'm biased, but I really can't think of a car on the market today that is as good as the RS4 and just hope that the new one is as good as the old one.

It looks undertstated, meaning I can park it in most places and I don't get any unwanted attention which I used to get in my old 911 / M3 - the downside is that people don't appreciate how quickly you can move/are moving when they pull out etc.

It would be a shame if the new model doesn't come with a manual - the one on the B7 is a peach and just as good as one you get on a Porsche 996/997 and makes the M3s stick feel agricultural in comparsion.

The way this car puts down the power in any condition is simply staggering. The M-differential seemed back-ward - too much power and not enough weight so you get the back end wagging. The RS4 just gets on with it with huge amounts of grip and no wagging and around corners too. You might not be able to get the back end to swing out as much as the M3/911, but in the real work you want grip rather than powerslides - I'm now a convert.

Lastly the power and poise is excellent - it is on par with the best cars out there.

Couple all this to the practically of the car (which you don't notice when your pushing on) it is a great package. It's not a supercar just a super car and I'm still smitten with mine.

Nors

1,291 posts

157 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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jamesghwilson said:
Wow...supercharged V8 RS4, that's more like it!
Yes, 2 tried and tested sytems available now that I know of, APR & PES, bothe capable of circa 625ps with an exhaust and remap. They are quite something! Runs a highly tuned B5 very close. Expensive though, but I'm sure there'll be some used examples hitting the market with that initial price sting absorbed.

jamesghwilson said:
..but once again the B7 is just a bit too common.
laugh Maybe where you live James, but quite rare up here (Scotland)!! B5 even rarer.

beer

Edited by Nors on Wednesday 15th February 14:31

MartinF

557 posts

204 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Same old PH then. I have a feeling a number of people saw first the pictures, liked it, then read people's opinions in this thread, decided they didn't like it again...

Yes, there is a resounding similarity between the 4's rear end and that of the 6. I have no idea why that's a problem for some of you guys. Yes, the RS5 tanked. I've a feeling this won't. No, it's not as beautifully vulgar as the B7 and, yes, it actually kind of matters.

Audi RSs always, in my eyes, look fifty times more brutal in the flesh, so my jury's out until I see one on the roads...

Nors

1,291 posts

157 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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MartinF said:
Same old PH then. I have a feeling a number of people saw first the pictures, liked it, then read people's opinions in this thread, decided they didn't like it again...
laugh Surely not!!!


MartinF said:
Audi RSs always, in my eyes, look fifty times more brutal in the flesh, so my jury's out until I see one on the roads...
Yes, and different colours will change how it looks also. Hope there's another wheel option though, I'm not really taken with that choice! (not that it'll make much difference to me - I can't afford a new one)

M666 EVO

1,124 posts

164 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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That is fecking awethum! Want with a capital W!


jamesghwilson

67 posts

151 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Nors said:
jamesghwilson said:
Wow...supercharged V8 RS4, that's more like it!
Yes, 2 tried and tested sytems available now that I know of, APR & PES, bothe capable of circa 625ps with an exhaust and remap. They are quite something! Runs a highly tuned B5 very close. Expensive though, but I'm sure there'll be some used examples hitting the market with that initial price sting absorbed.

jamesghwilson said:
..but once again the B7 is just a bit too common.
laugh Maybe where you live James, but quite rare up here (Scotland)!! B5 even rarer.

beer

Edited by Nors on Wednesday 15th February 14:31
Well, yes that does sound awesome! Do you know of any decent video clip links of either of those upgrades in the flesh? I guess Youtube...

No not that many, I meant in comparison to the B5 as per my previous comment on page three. They are still relatively rare.

Thanks for the supercharging info!

jamesghwilson

67 posts

151 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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TORQ said:
0-30 faster than a McLaren F1...WOW!
Always remember that Autocar Front Cover - the RS2 was/ is very special.

Spotted the attached a few weeks back in a pub car park in Surrey...

Baby seat in the back .

Top boy! On my wavelength.

Nice! Thanks for sharing, they are a real gem!

Digger

14,737 posts

193 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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AlpinaB5s said:


I think it needs more buttons.......
i think the + / - needs the old swaparoo too . . .

Nors

1,291 posts

157 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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jamesghwilson said:
Do you know of any decent video clip links of either of those upgrades in the flesh? I guess Youtube...
The White one is standard. (in case you didn't guess laugh)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkql5k61KyA

Edit: That one has 565ps, since that clip he's changed it to a APR set up and now has 620+ ps.

Edited by Nors on Wednesday 15th February 15:08