RE: VW confirms XL1 production

RE: VW confirms XL1 production

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emicen

8,602 posts

219 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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Wonder what a GTM Libra with a 1.2 or 1.4 diesel VAG unit would achieve scratchchin

Strawman

6,463 posts

208 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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cptsideways said:
1983 !!

1930's



Electric powered as well

AER

1,142 posts

271 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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The eternal problem with mega low fuel consumption is that you only have to sneeze and it goes from 250mpg to 100mpg. A/C will also do tragic damage to the numbers as will opening any window for a breath of fresh air.

I really like the idea, but I think as it is mentioned before, the real kudos is being able to deliver similar stellar mileages without resorting to extremely expensive technologies.

Wadeski

8,172 posts

214 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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Finally, the future-cars of sci fi have arrived...

pretty cool.

CraigyMc

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16,497 posts

237 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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cptsideways said:
1983 !!

I wonder what the turning circle was like on that...

CraigyMc

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16,497 posts

237 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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Eidolon said:
Heh... Yeah ok they are inbound, but they could make it sans covers and with a longer rear axle, then it'd look like my image above.

Or mahoosive spacers of course!!
A classic example of "I don't care about the engineering, just make it look pretty".

MonteV

363 posts

261 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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It's impressive, and the rear end is Maserati 3200-ish. The idea behind this low consumption ought to be sustainability and more eco-friendliness. This will only have an immediate impact if it is built for the masses, which is why hand built and limited production run makes it less relevant, of course.

Usget

5,426 posts

212 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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One man's meat is another man's dog turd and all that, but I think it looks fantastic. I'd have one!

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

186 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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I think this is absolutely fantastic - one of the most fascinating new cars to go into production in years. Congratulations VW.

Now I'm curious to know what one will cost..

CraigyMc

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237 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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Chicane-UK said:
I think this is absolutely fantastic - one of the most fascinating new cars to go into production in years. Congratulations VW.

Now I'm curious to know what one will cost..
Guesstimate: £50K

Still interested?

R500POP

8,787 posts

211 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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If it was under £25k I'd have one in a heartbeat.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

147 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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V6Paul said:
Loved that he's written its cheap to maintain - yeah because you haven't maintained it!
laugh

CraigyMc

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237 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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R500POP said:
If it was under £25k I'd have one in a heartbeat.
Sadly, though, it won't be.

The PH article points to it being hand-built, but it doesn't mention that VW will only build up to 1000 of them annually (reuters did).

C

CraigyMc

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237 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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Funny other little factoid:

10 litre fuel tank.

C

R500POP

8,787 posts

211 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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CAPP0 said:
£1700 with 4 days to run and it already needs a new battery AND a cat, let alone what else is wrong with it - that's going to be a bargain then!
Or you could get a 24,000miles one, new battery & full main dealer history with zero faults.........just saying...

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

186 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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CraigyMc said:
Guesstimate: £50K

Still interested?
Nope smile Still think it's awesome though.

Ive

211 posts

170 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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VW won't sell them.
The will build a total of 50 cars that will be leasing only to "selected customers".
this way they avoid all trouble about range missing, technical issues, higher real world consumption etc.
Guess is that all 50 will be leased to VAG management and friends.
VAG will lose a lot of money with each car. As said, the 50 cars are hand build by the prototype folks of VW.

After a 3 years trial period with the leasing fleet they will offer a production version with half the features for stupid money in order to claim/prove they offer such a car, but nobody actually buys it. Hard arguments to show the EU that CO2 goals are rubbish as foks don't accept the vehicles required to do that etc.

all clever marketing.

cptsideways

13,572 posts

253 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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There is without doubt demand for such a car. Just wait until one of the other manufacturers comes up with a cheap/regular version of such a thing. We do not need such massive cars in reality.


The reason its potentially so eco is mostly down to the low drag/small frontal area, that is what is currently stopping our current bloated fat cars being eco - simple as that!!!

I'm sure someone can do some calculations on what a current drivetrain can do mpg wise with a half size frontal area & a low drag coefficient, it cannot be that hard to figure out.

rev-erend

21,434 posts

285 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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Wow - looks like the future is here.

Looks stunning.

Hope they make it.

JonnyVTEC

3,012 posts

176 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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So it appears VW have said that an aluminium body would be 20% heavier but 40 times cheaper to produce ....

Sorry why did they go with carbon fibre? Forgot the point about recylability for now, you could even start ally with reclaimed ally. A real 'tin can' of a car then!

Maybe a more relevant volume version will shift to that along with normal brakes and wheel materials.