RE: Porsche 911 Turbo S: UK drive
Discussion
NomduJour said:
Schnellmann said:
in Switzerland the type of person that buys a new 911 Turbo would not drive a GT-R
Most people who buy 911s (perhaps with the exception of the GT cars) buy them because they are a Porsche 911. It's been a default choice in the market for years which has nothing to do with what the car actually is or does (hence all those Tiptronic C4S cabriolets). If you base your self-worth on the badge on the back of your car, you aren't going to care if the GT-R is a better thing to drive, you just don't want people to think you drive a Nissan.I would really like a go in a new turbo s, it is very much out of my price range at the moment but in a year or two I suspect it would be an option.
I have driven 997 turbos as they were high on my list a couple of years ago. They left me cold. I completely appreciate the porsche brand thing, the history, the amazing journey that has been the development of the 911. The 997 however just failed to excite in any way.
I was gutted as I was convinced it was the car for me.
I bought a GTR almost by accident, never even considering one until we went to a Nissan dealer to look at people carriers and I took one out almost out of curiosity. I bought it on the spot, amazing thing. Yes it is a little brash, the gizmo screen thing is pointless to me, but as a car it is epic.
Yes they do appeal to different people but don't dismiss them before you have tried one.
Anyway back to the lovely turbo s which is why we are here...
D
I have driven 997 turbos as they were high on my list a couple of years ago. They left me cold. I completely appreciate the porsche brand thing, the history, the amazing journey that has been the development of the 911. The 997 however just failed to excite in any way.
I was gutted as I was convinced it was the car for me.
I bought a GTR almost by accident, never even considering one until we went to a Nissan dealer to look at people carriers and I took one out almost out of curiosity. I bought it on the spot, amazing thing. Yes it is a little brash, the gizmo screen thing is pointless to me, but as a car it is epic.
Yes they do appeal to different people but don't dismiss them before you have tried one.
Anyway back to the lovely turbo s which is why we are here...
D
davidd said:
I would really like a go in a new turbo s, it is very much out of my price range at the moment but in a year or two I suspect it would be an option.
I have driven 997 turbos as they were high on my list a couple of years ago. They left me cold. I completely appreciate the porsche brand thing, the history, the amazing journey that has been the development of the 911. The 997 however just failed to excite in any way.
I was gutted as I was convinced it was the car for me.
I bought a GTR almost by accident, never even considering one until we went to a Nissan dealer to look at people carriers and I took one out almost out of curiosity. I bought it on the spot, amazing thing. Yes it is a little brash, the gizmo screen thing is pointless to me, but as a car it is epic.
Yes they do appeal to different people but don't dismiss them before you have tried one.
Anyway back to the lovely turbo s which is why we are here...
D
New GT3 will be more of a drivers car than the Turbo S.......I have driven 997 turbos as they were high on my list a couple of years ago. They left me cold. I completely appreciate the porsche brand thing, the history, the amazing journey that has been the development of the 911. The 997 however just failed to excite in any way.
I was gutted as I was convinced it was the car for me.
I bought a GTR almost by accident, never even considering one until we went to a Nissan dealer to look at people carriers and I took one out almost out of curiosity. I bought it on the spot, amazing thing. Yes it is a little brash, the gizmo screen thing is pointless to me, but as a car it is epic.
Yes they do appeal to different people but don't dismiss them before you have tried one.
Anyway back to the lovely turbo s which is why we are here...
D
NomduJour said:
Schnellmann said:
in Switzerland the type of person that buys a new 911 Turbo would not drive a GT-R
Most people who buy 911s (perhaps with the exception of the GT cars) buy them because they are a Porsche 911. It's been a default choice in the market for years which has nothing to do with what the car actually is or does (hence all those Tiptronic C4S cabriolets). If you base your self-worth on the badge on the back of your car, you aren't going to care if the GT-R is a better thing to drive, you just don't want people to think you drive a Nissan.For myself I would much rather have a 2.2 S or 2.4 S than either the Turbo or the GT-R as I'd rather drive something that at vaguely legal speeds required a bit of input from myself.
GranCab said:
The GT-R has more presence for me because it's fresher. It's a terffically brutal yet handsome-looking car. I also like that it looks Japanese and doesn't ape Italian or British design.The 911 shape has been with us for decades now and whilst being an icon and a distinctive, great-looking car it has lost it's specialness for me. I've seen the shape so many times now...
Also the GT3 is always the best looking in the 911 range, for me anyway.
Cactussed said:
Stick with the 355...
Unfortunately it is up for sale at the moment as moving back to Blighty and not sure it is worthwhile bringing back a LHD example. Yours looks lovely. Is that TDF blue?
Still thinking about what, if anything, to buy as second car in the UK. Another 355 is certainly on the list!
Regarding "image", there's at least 1 F1 driver who owns a GTR - presumably if he wished, he could order a Turbo. There's another F1 driver who owns a GT2..
In terms of the article, the new Turbo sounds neat (as per the 996 Turbo) - agree sweet spot would seem to be the standard Turbo.
Expensive for a daily driver though...
In terms of the article, the new Turbo sounds neat (as per the 996 Turbo) - agree sweet spot would seem to be the standard Turbo.
Expensive for a daily driver though...
The thing is the 996 Turbo looked good.
This is really odd. All that writing on the back end alone makes it look really daft like it reversed into the Halfords stick on letting section.
The shape worked, probably at it's best in the 993/996 generation, but the car has just got too big now to pull it off any more and imo they should have gone in a different direction.
God knows what the next generation is going to look like if they try keep the classic 911 shape on an even bigger car again.
This is really odd. All that writing on the back end alone makes it look really daft like it reversed into the Halfords stick on letting section.
The shape worked, probably at it's best in the 993/996 generation, but the car has just got too big now to pull it off any more and imo they should have gone in a different direction.
God knows what the next generation is going to look like if they try keep the classic 911 shape on an even bigger car again.
Carl_Docklands said:
Buy a new GT-R to attract men.
Buy a new 911 Turbo to attract women.
Having some experience of both cars, I am not sure either is true. Women certainly don't appreciate the Porsche. Quite the opposite, many women are quite prejudiced against them.Buy a new 911 Turbo to attract women.
If you want to be a hit with the ladies, you need a historic / classic car.
toppstuff said:
Carl_Docklands said:
Buy a new GT-R to attract men.
Buy a new 911 Turbo to attract women.
Having some experience of both cars, I am not sure either is true. Women certainly don't appreciate the Porsche. Quite the opposite, many women are quite prejudiced against them.Buy a new 911 Turbo to attract women.
If you want to be a hit with the ladies, you need a historic / classic car.
Hmm. Interesting stuff - mostly talk about how it looks (since, like most I have no ability or money to enjoy this or the previous generation). In person, the 991 is a lovely thing. Very well proportioned I think - not so much in pictures (the opposite in my mind to the GTR).
The performance is largely moot in my eyes. Especially in the UK - and given that most 997 Turbos I see are in traffic or pootling along on the motorway, I'm not sure even owners care much beyond bragging rights (and I would have one for that reason too!).
Either way, I look at the 991 and then at the 993 (the only 911 I've ever owned) and I think one is purposeful, the other pretty. I'd rather have the pretty one.
The performance is largely moot in my eyes. Especially in the UK - and given that most 997 Turbos I see are in traffic or pootling along on the motorway, I'm not sure even owners care much beyond bragging rights (and I would have one for that reason too!).
Either way, I look at the 991 and then at the 993 (the only 911 I've ever owned) and I think one is purposeful, the other pretty. I'd rather have the pretty one.
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