One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3
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The absolute knob in Brent Cross shopping centre this afternoon.
I was out shopping with the Mrs and the little one this afternoon. A guy in front of us leapt up from a seat and pushed his (empty) pushchair past us bumping into ours, leaving a young girl standing on her own.
"Hey be careful mate!" I said to his back.
He turned round and said, "F**k off, my daughter's......" I missed the end of it, but whatever his reason for bundling into us, his first reaction was "f**k off" rather than "sorry, but...."
NB that's not a "he turned round and said..... and she's turned round and said...so I turned round and said" conversation, the guy physically turned round, thrust out his chest, then said, "f**k off...."
I was out shopping with the Mrs and the little one this afternoon. A guy in front of us leapt up from a seat and pushed his (empty) pushchair past us bumping into ours, leaving a young girl standing on her own.
"Hey be careful mate!" I said to his back.
He turned round and said, "F**k off, my daughter's......" I missed the end of it, but whatever his reason for bundling into us, his first reaction was "f**k off" rather than "sorry, but...."
NB that's not a "he turned round and said..... and she's turned round and said...so I turned round and said" conversation, the guy physically turned round, thrust out his chest, then said, "f**k off...."
Hackney said:
People who don't pull into a box junction to turn right even when the right turn exit is clear.
There's a junction on the A5 in Colindale, when the lights go green 2 or 3 cars can pull forward and make the turn when the lights change, except the other day when the lights went through three rotations as the numpty in front of me pulled forward 5 feet but didn't enter the box junction.
There's no right filter on the lights so if you do that you could be there all bleeding day.
Gesturing forward and pipping the horn had no effect.
Easy. You pull round on the nearside and go in front, correctly positioned on the yellow box.There's a junction on the A5 in Colindale, when the lights go green 2 or 3 cars can pull forward and make the turn when the lights change, except the other day when the lights went through three rotations as the numpty in front of me pulled forward 5 feet but didn't enter the box junction.
There's no right filter on the lights so if you do that you could be there all bleeding day.
Gesturing forward and pipping the horn had no effect.
Has worked for me!
(There was also a video on here recently from the dash cam of someone who did the same).
Some stupid old man in a Megane, was going 45 on a slip road, it was a two lane slip road so I overtook, guess who sped up? Not an issue so I go back behind as we're at an appropriate speed, once behind guess who slows down again? This means I'm entering the dual carriageway at 45, couldn't go straight into lane two either. I was a little aggressive and got a bit close to his bumper.
Then, not 5 minutes later I'm off the dual carriageway and on a roundabout, on this roundabout a young girl in a Polo starts pulling out into the side of me, I give a quick tap of the horn, purely as a warning. For some reason she decides I've done wrong and gives a long honk back.
Later on a Tesco van who was tailgating me stupidly close (I was going 30 in a 30), a quick flash of the hazards did make him stop tailgating, a technique I learned from this very thread, works almost every time.
They really are out in force today.
Then, not 5 minutes later I'm off the dual carriageway and on a roundabout, on this roundabout a young girl in a Polo starts pulling out into the side of me, I give a quick tap of the horn, purely as a warning. For some reason she decides I've done wrong and gives a long honk back.
Later on a Tesco van who was tailgating me stupidly close (I was going 30 in a 30), a quick flash of the hazards did make him stop tailgating, a technique I learned from this very thread, works almost every time.
They really are out in force today.
carlove said:
Some stupid old man in a Megane, was going 45 on a slip road, it was a two lane slip road so I overtook, guess who sped up? Not an issue so I go back behind as we're at an appropriate speed, once behind guess who slows down again? This means I'm entering the dual carriageway at 45, couldn't go straight into lane two either. I was a little aggressive and got a bit close to his bumper.
Then, not 5 minutes later I'm off the dual carriageway and on a roundabout, on this roundabout a young girl in a Polo starts pulling out into the side of me, I give a quick tap of the horn, purely as a warning. For some reason she decides I've done wrong and gives a long honk back.
Later on a Tesco van who was tailgating me stupidly close (I was going 30 in a 30), a quick flash of the hazards did make him stop tailgating, a technique I learned from this very thread, works almost every time.
They really are out in force today.
Three incidents in such a short space of time, two horn honks and a flash, and some aggressive tailgating by you by your own admission, then you have the audacity to flash somebody who is tailgating you. Interesting. Then, not 5 minutes later I'm off the dual carriageway and on a roundabout, on this roundabout a young girl in a Polo starts pulling out into the side of me, I give a quick tap of the horn, purely as a warning. For some reason she decides I've done wrong and gives a long honk back.
Later on a Tesco van who was tailgating me stupidly close (I was going 30 in a 30), a quick flash of the hazards did make him stop tailgating, a technique I learned from this very thread, works almost every time.
They really are out in force today.
Monkeylegend said:
Three incidents in such a short space of time, two horn honks and a flash, and some aggressive tailgating by you by your own admission, then you have the audacity to flash somebody who is tailgating you. Interesting.
I admit I was aggressive to the Megane, he put me in a dangerous situation and I was annoyed, I wasn't super close and was for about 2 seconds at the most. The Tesco van was much closer to me than I was to the Megane, ridiculously close in fact and for a long time, I wasn't even going slow. As for the horn, I only honked once. Read 112 https://www.gov.uk/general-rules-all-drivers-rider...
A car was about to drive into me, I gave one quick tap of the horn to alert to my presence, she gave a long blast of the horn back, and you're making out I'm the aggressive driver.
The Tesco van was about about 8 hours after the other two.
carlove said:
Monkeylegend said:
Three incidents in such a short space of time, two horn honks and a flash, and some aggressive tailgating by you by your own admission, then you have the audacity to flash somebody who is tailgating you. Interesting.
I was aggressive to the Megane, and you're making out I'm the aggressive driver.
Monkeylegend said:
Your words
You've got me there. 
I think the Megane was worse than me, sped up when I overtook, then slowed back down when I slot in behind, yes I was aggressive but he was the dangerous driver, he was the one who actually forced me to enter a dual carriageway 25mph slower than everyone else (couldn't go straight to lane 2), also a car approaching in lane 1 at 70 who was expecting us to be matching the speed of traffic had to slow thanks to him.
As I say the Tesco van was much more aggressive than me, and he had no reason to be annoyed with me (not that that justifies it, much).
carlove said:
You've got me there.
I think the Megane was worse than me, sped up when I overtook, then slowed back down when I slot in behind, yes I was aggressive but he was the dangerous driver, he was the one who actually forced me to enter a dual carriageway 25mph slower than everyone else (couldn't go straight to lane 2), also a car approaching in lane 1 at 70 who was expecting us to be matching the speed of traffic had to slow thanks to him.
As I say the Tesco van was much more aggressive than me, and he had no reason to be annoyed with me (not that that justifies it, much).
Nobody forced you to enter a dual carriageway into faster-moving traffic. That was your decision in the heat of the moment. You could / should have stopped.I think the Megane was worse than me, sped up when I overtook, then slowed back down when I slot in behind, yes I was aggressive but he was the dangerous driver, he was the one who actually forced me to enter a dual carriageway 25mph slower than everyone else (couldn't go straight to lane 2), also a car approaching in lane 1 at 70 who was expecting us to be matching the speed of traffic had to slow thanks to him.
As I say the Tesco van was much more aggressive than me, and he had no reason to be annoyed with me (not that that justifies it, much).
I should stop digging if I were you . . .
Cliftonite said:
Nobody forced you to enter a dual carriageway into faster-moving traffic. That was your decision in the heat of the moment. You could / should have stopped.
I should stop digging if I were you . . .
It wasn't a situation where stopping would have been better, before you say it I know traffic on the dual carriageway has priority. What I should have done is just continued overtaking the Megane, even if it meant breaking the limit.I should stop digging if I were you . . .
Although to me it seems to me that entering a dual carriageway at 45 and attempting to block somebody's overtake is perfectly acceptable driving, will do that next time. No, I'm the knob because I'm annoyed with someone doing that.
Entering the roundabout outside Highbury & Islington station coming south on the A1. There's roadworks going on with barriers up making visibility poor from a lower car. I edge forward, see a cyclist approaching and wait for him to pass.
The 107 behind me hoots as she can't see the cyclist and thinks I'm just sat twiddling my thumbs.
We both exit the roundabout onto Canonbury Road which has a 20mph limit and a number of cars on either side. I'm driving at an indicated 25mph with the 107 seemingly 2 ft from my rear bumper.
The 107 behind me hoots as she can't see the cyclist and thinks I'm just sat twiddling my thumbs.
We both exit the roundabout onto Canonbury Road which has a 20mph limit and a number of cars on either side. I'm driving at an indicated 25mph with the 107 seemingly 2 ft from my rear bumper.
Monkeylegend said:
carlove said:
Some stupid old man in a Megane, was going 45 on a slip road, it was a two lane slip road so I overtook, guess who sped up? Not an issue so I go back behind as we're at an appropriate speed, once behind guess who slows down again? This means I'm entering the dual carriageway at 45, couldn't go straight into lane two either. I was a little aggressive and got a bit close to his bumper.
Then, not 5 minutes later I'm off the dual carriageway and on a roundabout, on this roundabout a young girl in a Polo starts pulling out into the side of me, I give a quick tap of the horn, purely as a warning. For some reason she decides I've done wrong and gives a long honk back.
Later on a Tesco van who was tailgating me stupidly close (I was going 30 in a 30), a quick flash of the hazards did make him stop tailgating, a technique I learned from this very thread, works almost every time.
They really are out in force today.
Three incidents in such a short space of time, two horn honks and a flash, and some aggressive tailgating by you by your own admission, then you have the audacity to flash somebody who is tailgating you. Interesting. Then, not 5 minutes later I'm off the dual carriageway and on a roundabout, on this roundabout a young girl in a Polo starts pulling out into the side of me, I give a quick tap of the horn, purely as a warning. For some reason she decides I've done wrong and gives a long honk back.
Later on a Tesco van who was tailgating me stupidly close (I was going 30 in a 30), a quick flash of the hazards did make him stop tailgating, a technique I learned from this very thread, works almost every time.
They really are out in force today.
I seem to think there are two or three people on here who always blame the poster for the incident they're posting about, aren't you one of them? If so, what's the point eh? People post here for a bit of a rant just let them get on with it.
Not really my fault but I still felt a bit of a knob.
I was taking some garden waste down to the tip this morning, and just before the tip there's a sign that reads 'left lane for composting -right lane for general waste.
The left hand lane was empty and the right was chock a block for the entire 100m of the approach road.
I stayed in the left hand lane and got right to the end of the lane to find a cone in the middle of the road and a very irate council worker who shouted that I had to get back to the end of the queue.
So I then had to reverse all the way back and wait my turn with everyone else, when I finally got into the tip, I saw the same worker and asked him what has happening, and he said that there should have been a cone at the very beginning of the left hand lane, but it must have been moved.
I don't think that he considered putting the cone back, or taping something over the sign.
I was taking some garden waste down to the tip this morning, and just before the tip there's a sign that reads 'left lane for composting -right lane for general waste.
The left hand lane was empty and the right was chock a block for the entire 100m of the approach road.
I stayed in the left hand lane and got right to the end of the lane to find a cone in the middle of the road and a very irate council worker who shouted that I had to get back to the end of the queue.
So I then had to reverse all the way back and wait my turn with everyone else, when I finally got into the tip, I saw the same worker and asked him what has happening, and he said that there should have been a cone at the very beginning of the left hand lane, but it must have been moved.
I don't think that he considered putting the cone back, or taping something over the sign.
The woman who this afternoon reversed along the hard shoulder of the motorway where the M4 splits from the M5 southbound because she gone down the wrong one. She then pulled out onto the M5 straight into L1 of 2 without building up any speed causing all sorts of mayhem in my mirror. She looked both gormless and terrified when I went past her sat on the chevrons!
Hackney said:
Monkeylegend said:
carlove said:
Some stupid old man in a Megane, was going 45 on a slip road, it was a two lane slip road so I overtook, guess who sped up? Not an issue so I go back behind as we're at an appropriate speed, once behind guess who slows down again? This means I'm entering the dual carriageway at 45, couldn't go straight into lane two either. I was a little aggressive and got a bit close to his bumper.
Then, not 5 minutes later I'm off the dual carriageway and on a roundabout, on this roundabout a young girl in a Polo starts pulling out into the side of me, I give a quick tap of the horn, purely as a warning. For some reason she decides I've done wrong and gives a long honk back.
Later on a Tesco van who was tailgating me stupidly close (I was going 30 in a 30), a quick flash of the hazards did make him stop tailgating, a technique I learned from this very thread, works almost every time.
They really are out in force today.
Three incidents in such a short space of time, two horn honks and a flash, and some aggressive tailgating by you by your own admission, then you have the audacity to flash somebody who is tailgating you. Interesting. Then, not 5 minutes later I'm off the dual carriageway and on a roundabout, on this roundabout a young girl in a Polo starts pulling out into the side of me, I give a quick tap of the horn, purely as a warning. For some reason she decides I've done wrong and gives a long honk back.
Later on a Tesco van who was tailgating me stupidly close (I was going 30 in a 30), a quick flash of the hazards did make him stop tailgating, a technique I learned from this very thread, works almost every time.
They really are out in force today.
I seem to think there are two or three people on here who always blame the poster for the incident they're posting about, aren't you one of them? If so, what's the point eh? People post here for a bit of a rant just let them get on with it.
I fell proud to be in what you think is a select group of 2 or 3, thank you
Issi said:
Not really my fault but I still felt a bit of a knob.
I was taking some garden waste down to the tip this morning, and just before the tip there's a sign that reads 'left lane for composting -right lane for general waste.
The left hand lane was empty and the right was chock a block for the entire 100m of the approach road.
I stayed in the left hand lane and got right to the end of the lane to find a cone in the middle of the road and a very irate council worker who shouted that I had to get back to the end of the queue.
So I then had to reverse all the way back and wait my turn with everyone else, when I finally got into the tip, I saw the same worker and asked him what has happening, and he said that there should have been a cone at the very beginning of the left hand lane, but it must have been moved.
I don't think that he considered putting the cone back, or taping something over the sign.
I would not have reversed. He would have been asked to remove the cone or assist me in rejoining the right hand lane at that point.I was taking some garden waste down to the tip this morning, and just before the tip there's a sign that reads 'left lane for composting -right lane for general waste.
The left hand lane was empty and the right was chock a block for the entire 100m of the approach road.
I stayed in the left hand lane and got right to the end of the lane to find a cone in the middle of the road and a very irate council worker who shouted that I had to get back to the end of the queue.
So I then had to reverse all the way back and wait my turn with everyone else, when I finally got into the tip, I saw the same worker and asked him what has happening, and he said that there should have been a cone at the very beginning of the left hand lane, but it must have been moved.
I don't think that he considered putting the cone back, or taping something over the sign.
Does this make me the knob, or you?
I'd been talking to this chap over email for the last few weeks about his Alfa. He'd been (I thought at the time) pretty honest in the description, mentioning a few small things, and when I said I was considering flying up from Hampshire to Scotland to view with an intention to buy, he mentioned a couple of other issues, one of which was difficulty getting into 5th gear, the other a binding front caliper. At this point I said "thanks, but no thanks, if it were 34 miles away instead of 340, I'd pop over and take a look. Let me know if you end up getting the issues fixed and it's still for sale."
Fast forward a couple of weeks, and he does just that ("it's now driving like a dream!"). To be fair to him he did only mention fixing the 5th gear issue, for some stupid reason I assumed both were fixed - totally my fault. Anyway, price was the same, was I still interested? Short answer was "Yes" because the colour combination was on the "good" side of my preferences, the price was ... keen but not super cheap, shall we say, and the prospect of a 340-mile introductory drive with my new purchase appealed to my adventurous side.
So, a couple of days later, I've done my rail-replacement bus to Eastleigh, Train to Southampton Airport, Plane to Glasgow, Taxi to the vendor's house. I walk over to the car and this is what I find:
1) The vendor hasn't washed the car for, it seems, 2 or 3 weeks.
2) There's an oil leak that means the off-side of the sump is completely plastered with oil. ("No leaks")
3) Both rear wheelarches are starting to rust around the lip, with the offside one quite bad and bubbling through the wing where it meets the rear bumper. ("No rust")
4) Further investigation reveals it hasn't been washed in an outrageous attempt to hide significant cosmetic issues - scratches, dings, inch-square areas of bumper where the paint has completely peeled off, etc.
5) The gearbox linkage is completely devoid of any centering and it feels like 7 gears are lost in a bowl of porridge, good luck if you actually stir up reverse by mistake. ("Fixed")
6) The brakes are binding seriously, to the point where after a 10 minute test drive the brakes are squealing. Consequently the pads are destroyed and any form of braking other than normal driving is impossible, there's just nothing more to give (indicating more of an issue than just one binding caliper to me). ("Drives like a dream" - yeah, if your dream involves the "screech screech screech" noise from Psycho)
What sort of knob, knowing that someone is spending a couple of hundred quid to come and view their car, and would be driving it 340 miles home along our motorway network, feels happy to present a car like that? And doesn't even f
king wash it?
I might be down a return air fare and a couple of taxi trips, but at least I've not got that heap of st sat on my driveway this fine morning.
Fast forward a couple of weeks, and he does just that ("it's now driving like a dream!"). To be fair to him he did only mention fixing the 5th gear issue, for some stupid reason I assumed both were fixed - totally my fault. Anyway, price was the same, was I still interested? Short answer was "Yes" because the colour combination was on the "good" side of my preferences, the price was ... keen but not super cheap, shall we say, and the prospect of a 340-mile introductory drive with my new purchase appealed to my adventurous side.
So, a couple of days later, I've done my rail-replacement bus to Eastleigh, Train to Southampton Airport, Plane to Glasgow, Taxi to the vendor's house. I walk over to the car and this is what I find:
1) The vendor hasn't washed the car for, it seems, 2 or 3 weeks.
2) There's an oil leak that means the off-side of the sump is completely plastered with oil. ("No leaks")
3) Both rear wheelarches are starting to rust around the lip, with the offside one quite bad and bubbling through the wing where it meets the rear bumper. ("No rust")
4) Further investigation reveals it hasn't been washed in an outrageous attempt to hide significant cosmetic issues - scratches, dings, inch-square areas of bumper where the paint has completely peeled off, etc.
5) The gearbox linkage is completely devoid of any centering and it feels like 7 gears are lost in a bowl of porridge, good luck if you actually stir up reverse by mistake. ("Fixed")
6) The brakes are binding seriously, to the point where after a 10 minute test drive the brakes are squealing. Consequently the pads are destroyed and any form of braking other than normal driving is impossible, there's just nothing more to give (indicating more of an issue than just one binding caliper to me). ("Drives like a dream" - yeah, if your dream involves the "screech screech screech" noise from Psycho)
What sort of knob, knowing that someone is spending a couple of hundred quid to come and view their car, and would be driving it 340 miles home along our motorway network, feels happy to present a car like that? And doesn't even f
king wash it? I might be down a return air fare and a couple of taxi trips, but at least I've not got that heap of s
t sat on my driveway this fine morning.Cliftonite said:
carlove said:
You've got me there.
I think the Megane was worse than me, sped up when I overtook, then slowed back down when I slot in behind, yes I was aggressive but he was the dangerous driver, he was the one who actually forced me to enter a dual carriageway 25mph slower than everyone else (couldn't go straight to lane 2), also a car approaching in lane 1 at 70 who was expecting us to be matching the speed of traffic had to slow thanks to him.
As I say the Tesco van was much more aggressive than me, and he had no reason to be annoyed with me (not that that justifies it, much).
Nobody forced you to enter a dual carriageway into faster-moving traffic. That was your decision in the heat of the moment. You could / should have stopped.I think the Megane was worse than me, sped up when I overtook, then slowed back down when I slot in behind, yes I was aggressive but he was the dangerous driver, he was the one who actually forced me to enter a dual carriageway 25mph slower than everyone else (couldn't go straight to lane 2), also a car approaching in lane 1 at 70 who was expecting us to be matching the speed of traffic had to slow thanks to him.
As I say the Tesco van was much more aggressive than me, and he had no reason to be annoyed with me (not that that justifies it, much).
I should stop digging if I were you . . .
"One single thing that makes me think "knob"?" Drivers who think that jumping straight off a slip road and carrying on in a diagonal trajectory directly into lane two, or even three, is somehow acceptable and safe.
And as for choices? (re: 'forced' to enter a DC at a sub-optimal speed) Try backing off at the top of the slip. Let the slower car get further ahead, then drop the hammer to match the speed of traffic on the main carriageway, and try to do it so that you seamlessly slip into an existing gap in lane 1 traffic. Then settle there while you adjust to DC driving conditions before making a planned manoeuvre into lane 2 where appropriate. That way you can drive to your own plan, making your own choices, not driving in response to someone else's. The Megane driver is by far the biggest villain of this piece, but there are ways in which you can mitigate for this and improve your safety, and the safety of other road users with just a little thought and forward planning.
yellowjack said:
Cliftonite said:
carlove said:
You've got me there.
I think the Megane was worse than me, sped up when I overtook, then slowed back down when I slot in behind, yes I was aggressive but he was the dangerous driver, he was the one who actually forced me to enter a dual carriageway 25mph slower than everyone else (couldn't go straight to lane 2), also a car approaching in lane 1 at 70 who was expecting us to be matching the speed of traffic had to slow thanks to him.
As I say the Tesco van was much more aggressive than me, and he had no reason to be annoyed with me (not that that justifies it, much).
Nobody forced you to enter a dual carriageway into faster-moving traffic. That was your decision in the heat of the moment. You could / should have stopped.I think the Megane was worse than me, sped up when I overtook, then slowed back down when I slot in behind, yes I was aggressive but he was the dangerous driver, he was the one who actually forced me to enter a dual carriageway 25mph slower than everyone else (couldn't go straight to lane 2), also a car approaching in lane 1 at 70 who was expecting us to be matching the speed of traffic had to slow thanks to him.
As I say the Tesco van was much more aggressive than me, and he had no reason to be annoyed with me (not that that justifies it, much).
I should stop digging if I were you . . .
"One single thing that makes me think "knob"?" Drivers who think that jumping straight off a slip road and carrying on in a diagonal trajectory directly into lane two, or even three, is somehow acceptable and safe.
And as for choices? (re: 'forced' to enter a DC at a sub-optimal speed) Try backing off at the top of the slip. Let the slower car get further ahead, then drop the hammer to match the speed of traffic on the main carriageway, and try to do it so that you seamlessly slip into an existing gap in lane 1 traffic. Then settle there while you adjust to DC driving conditions before making a planned manoeuvre into lane 2 where appropriate. That way you can drive to your own plan, making your own choices, not driving in response to someone else's. The Megane driver is by far the biggest villain of this piece, but there are ways in which you can mitigate for this and improve your safety, and the safety of other road users with just a little thought and forward planning.
On the positive side 10/10 for spelling manoeuvre correctly.
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