RE: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde: Driven
Discussion
http://www.diseno-art.com/news_content/2014/08/201...
I like a lot of things about this car but I wish the front end, lights bumber and grill were more in the style of this concept.
It would be nigh on perfect then, I loved the look of the 159 it really is one of the best looking saloons ever made IMO but the rumoured 400hp v8 GTA never happened unfortunately.
This car has has the super saloon performance but I just don't find it has the visual impact that the 159 did when I fist saw it, I've not yet seen it in the flesh though so may change my mind on that one.
It's early days however and if a nice body kit or mid life facelift come along I could well see myself getting one of these. My Alfa ownership experience thus far (2 years and counting) has been very positive with (touch wood) nothing major going wrong and the build quality/overall fit and finnish being a far cry from the bits fall off it badly put together stereotype.
All in all I've become a bit of fan and want to try out the previous 156 GTA at some point as it seems to have quite a following and prices are still cheap
I like a lot of things about this car but I wish the front end, lights bumber and grill were more in the style of this concept.
It would be nigh on perfect then, I loved the look of the 159 it really is one of the best looking saloons ever made IMO but the rumoured 400hp v8 GTA never happened unfortunately.
This car has has the super saloon performance but I just don't find it has the visual impact that the 159 did when I fist saw it, I've not yet seen it in the flesh though so may change my mind on that one.
It's early days however and if a nice body kit or mid life facelift come along I could well see myself getting one of these. My Alfa ownership experience thus far (2 years and counting) has been very positive with (touch wood) nothing major going wrong and the build quality/overall fit and finnish being a far cry from the bits fall off it badly put together stereotype.
All in all I've become a bit of fan and want to try out the previous 156 GTA at some point as it seems to have quite a following and prices are still cheap
sjn2004 said:
One thing will kill this, the dealers who are thinnly spread and rubbish.
No matter how good the car is and yes I want one as well, this will be the bottom line quoted above. I have supposedly the best Alfa dealer in the country a 10 minute drive away yet I cheerfully take mine on a 200 mile round trip to an Indy. Even with my rose tinted Alfa googles on the main dealer is still rubbish IMO so hate to think what the average usual German marque buyer will think.
Not concerned about the lack of manual, as an M4 owner I know they sell hardly any manuals and I'm glad t have the auto. So auto makes sense for me.
Will certainly be tempted by one of these, if the finance deals are good. Only concern is dealerships, BMW are very good in this respect and do treat you very well, so will want the same from Alfa to o be truly serious.
Will certainly be tempted by one of these, if the finance deals are good. Only concern is dealerships, BMW are very good in this respect and do treat you very well, so will want the same from Alfa to o be truly serious.
timwatsham said:
Seeing top speed of 190mph shocked me.
and just to think not that long ago, and I remember it well.......Mr. Alex Carlile : "Will the hon. Gentleman join me in condemning especially the heavy publicity that has been given recently to a Vauxhall Carlton which is capable, apparently, of achieving 170 mph? It should not be available for public purchase, even at the outrageous price of, I think, £45,000. "
ducnick said:
Jimbo. said:
The vast majority of cars over £50K are autos, so why make something that simply won't sell?
You have hit the nail on the head there. At £55k for a super saloon in this sector there is some serious competition with better recent pedigree of doing that kind of thing. However they are all auto. If Alfa want to take a segment of this market without intruding on the big brother that is Maserati they need to do something slightly different to appeal to the kind of person who might be tempted by a £55k Alfa and all the trials and tribulations that will undoubtedly come with ownership!
t at its peak - Have read the last 4 pages of people moaning saying ah dammit if it was coming an a manual id have cash waiting. at 55k less than 1 percent are going to buy a super saloon in a manual.
very very tired topic now.
As an Alfisti I welcome this car with open arms ! What a cracker. It's achilles heel will be the dealer network which is completely inadequate both in size and capability. There are area's of the country where you are several hours away from the nearest dealer. Not ideal when you have warranty issues stacking up....and there will be.
The independent network is however very very good.
I do worry if the Uk just doesn't have the appetite for high value Alfa's. The 4c should have had a year plus waiting list for such a seminal car. Reality is they can't sell them ! Whats that all about ??
The independent network is however very very good.
I do worry if the Uk just doesn't have the appetite for high value Alfa's. The 4c should have had a year plus waiting list for such a seminal car. Reality is they can't sell them ! Whats that all about ??
Bang, and there go all my last hopes of Alfa upsetting the German fraternity by undercutting the 335i with a decent manual rwd v6 turbo drivers car starting at £35k plus options!
Ohh goodie. Another 50k + auto barge to slide in right along all the others (yawn)
What else have we got coming up left to dream about?
Ohh goodie. Another 50k + auto barge to slide in right along all the others (yawn)
What else have we got coming up left to dream about?
. If I ever have 55K to spend on a car, I won't cry over the lack of a manual gearbox option!Niffty951 said:
Bang, and there go all my last hopes of Alfa upsetting the German fraternity by undercutting the 335i with a decent manual rwd v6 turbo drivers car starting at £35k plus options!
Ohh goodie. Another 50k + auto barge to slide in right along all the others (yawn)
What else have we got coming up left to dream about?
I don't how much longer the 335 will stay as a six, fact is inline 4's will likely be the only options at sub 40k with very few exceptions, how many cars can you buy today at 35 or less with more than 4 cylinders I can only think of a handfulOhh goodie. Another 50k + auto barge to slide in right along all the others (yawn)
What else have we got coming up left to dream about?
sjn2004 said:
One thing will kill this, the dealers who are thinnly spread and rubbish. Had a dealer split the sump on my 156 during a routine oil change and claimed it just happens.Ended up repairing it myself.
jeep/ Alfa have opened a flashy dealership around the corner. Had to take mine in for a recall. Couldn't have been happier.In fact one of the best experiences in any dealers I've had. Ok sample size of one, perhaps things are changing?
Wills2 said:
kambites said:
Don't forget the Germans weigh "EU" which is wet with a driver and luggage. Alfa weighed the 4C dry, I've no idea what this figure is.
Mind you, even if the weight is dry it's still at least on a par with the M3 as far as power to weight ratio is concerned. However you look at it, 510bhp from a mass produced 2.9 litre engine shows how far things have come in recent years. T
I read today that Evo are quoting Alfa as stating that the dry weight is 1524kg so on that I presume the 1580kg is DIN giving 1655kg as the EU. Mind you, even if the weight is dry it's still at least on a par with the M3 as far as power to weight ratio is concerned. However you look at it, 510bhp from a mass produced 2.9 litre engine shows how far things have come in recent years. T
Edited by kambites on Friday 13th May 19:02
Pesty said:
In fact one of the best experiences in any dealers I've had. Ok sample size of one, perhaps things are changing?
Alfa have been 'reinventing' themselves since the end of the 90s - they gutted their old network (the people who actually knew how their cars worked) around 99/00 and it's been shabby/half-arsed franchises who have zero idea what they're doing ever-since - they come and go/move around and never stay open long enough to remember where the bonnet releases are...It amazes me that 'need for a local dealer' isn't seen as a more important factor when selling cars. I've avoided cars in the past simply because there weren't a couple of reasonably nearvy dealers (you want more than one because one is going to suck - obviously).
I guess people assume new cars will never go wrong - I guess they'll find out the hard way.
Dealers sell cars tho - SEATs were rare around here until a larger dealer opened-up and now they're EVERYWHERE.
Pesty said:
sjn2004 said:
One thing will kill this, the dealers who are thinnly spread and rubbish. Had a dealer split the sump on my 156 during a routine oil change and claimed it just happens.Ended up repairing it myself.
jeep/ Alfa have opened a flashy dealership around the corner. Had to take mine in for a recall. Couldn't have been happier.In fact one of the best experiences in any dealers I've had. Ok sample size of one, perhaps things are changing?
J1JPE said:
How many other DSG, PDK autos have paddles that rotate with the wheel like the Giulietta does?
I think paddle-shift autos are about split about 50/50. Clearly manufacturers either can't decide which is better or think it depends on the car. I can see the point in them being attached to the wheel for track use but for on the road where you're moving your hands around on the wheel having them fixed to the column makes more sense to me.
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