Would you still buy a diesel now?
Discussion
mikal83 said:
daemon said:
Joey Deacon said:
I think diesels only work for people doing high mileage or driving a heavy car such as a 4X4 or S class/A8/5 Series etc.
Indeed. Thats all they EVER should have been bought for. Unfortunately people became obsessed with the low tax rate on them, the better "economy" and the perceived better residuals come resale time
How many people bought diesels to do 6,000 miles a year in? How many people bought diesels because it was simply the default choice rather than putting any thought in to their requirements? How many people bought diesels because it was the one that the PCP deal was cheapest on? How many times have we heard people saying they're changing their car "to get cheaper tax" on it?
Even now if you look at the likes of BMW for their finance offers, its diesel they are promoting wholly on non performance or electric variants.
https://offers.bmw.co.uk/finance-offers/
Its why i'm not particularly surprised / concerned about the "drop" in new diesel car sales - its merely rebalancing back to what it should have been.
Granted, running an older diesel is probably fine, but i'm talking about the buying habits of new(er) car buyers.
Edited by daemon on Tuesday 27th February 19:11
Edited by daemon on Tuesday 27th February 19:20
Shiv_P said:
S4
E90 M3
B7 RS4
All sound good but I’m replacing a golf R due to getting woken at 4am by scum trying to batter down my door.E90 M3
B7 RS4
Don’t think they are all as nickable but I really need to keep it off radar and would prefer something not to old that’s expensive to run I do like the c class and they seem very well equipped which I like maybe the 7.5 0-60 for the petrol isn’t to bad.
Keep them coming though!
p1stonhead said:
swamp said:
The ULEZ checker thinks my 2012 diesel is "not subject to the ULEZ".
Looks like this could end up a fiasco.
Unsurprisingly my 9 year old 325d is Looks like this could end up a fiasco.
My Y reg 325i is not subject to the ULEZ.
Probably wont have it by then, mind you.
Patch1875 said:
I’m looking for a fast-ish mid sized car for around 20k but most seems to be diesel or pretty uninspiring petrols.
Seen a nice C250 AMG Line premium but the chances of it bombing in value are putting me off the petrol version is pretty rare and a lot more sluggish.
The C200 petrol variant has 180+ BHP and hits 0-60 in 7.2 seconds.Seen a nice C250 AMG Line premium but the chances of it bombing in value are putting me off the petrol version is pretty rare and a lot more sluggish.
The C250 diesel variant granted has 20 BHP more but is only 0.6 second quicker to 60MPH.
I'd be running with the C200.
daemon said:
mikal83 said:
daemon said:
Joey Deacon said:
I think diesels only work for people doing high mileage or driving a heavy car such as a 4X4 or S class/A8/5 Series etc.
Indeed. Thats all they EVER should have been bought for. Unfortunately people became obsessed with the low tax rate on them, the better "economy" and the perceived better residuals come resale timeHow many people bought diesels to do 6,000 miles a year in? How many people bought diesels because it was simply the default choice rather than putting any thought in to their requirements? How many people bought diesels because it was the one that the PCP deal was cheapest on? How many times have we heard people saying they're changing their car "to get cheaper tax" on it?
Even now if you look at the likes of BMW for their finance offers, its diesel they are promoting wholly on non performance or electric variants.
https://offers.bmw.co.uk/finance-offers/
Its why i'm not particularly surprised / concerned about the "drop" in new diesel car sales - its merely rebalancing back to what it should have been.
Granted, running an older diesel is probably fine, but i'm talking about the buying habits of new(er) car buyers.
Edited by daemon on Tuesday 27th February 19:11
Edited by daemon on Tuesday 27th February 19:20
mikal83 said:
daemon said:
mikal83 said:
daemon said:
Joey Deacon said:
I think diesels only work for people doing high mileage or driving a heavy car such as a 4X4 or S class/A8/5 Series etc.
Indeed. Thats all they EVER should have been bought for. Unfortunately people became obsessed with the low tax rate on them, the better "economy" and the perceived better residuals come resale timeHow many people bought diesels to do 6,000 miles a year in? How many people bought diesels because it was simply the default choice rather than putting any thought in to their requirements? How many people bought diesels because it was the one that the PCP deal was cheapest on? How many times have we heard people saying they're changing their car "to get cheaper tax" on it?
Even now if you look at the likes of BMW for their finance offers, its diesel they are promoting wholly on non performance or electric variants.
https://offers.bmw.co.uk/finance-offers/
Its why i'm not particularly surprised / concerned about the "drop" in new diesel car sales - its merely rebalancing back to what it should have been.
Granted, running an older diesel is probably fine, but i'm talking about the buying habits of new(er) car buyers.
However why, out of curiosity, didnt you go for a petrol Citroen / car?
Edited by daemon on Tuesday 27th February 19:27
Edited by daemon on Tuesday 27th February 19:27
Patch1875 said:
daemon said:
The C200 petrol variant has 180+ BHP and hits 0-60 in 7.2 seconds.
The C250 diesel variant granted has 20 BHP more but is only 0.6 second quicker to 60MPH.
I'd be running with the C200.
Yeah your probably right pity the nearest one is a 100 miles away.The C250 diesel variant granted has 20 BHP more but is only 0.6 second quicker to 60MPH.
I'd be running with the C200.
daemon said:
mikal83 said:
daemon said:
mikal83 said:
daemon said:
Joey Deacon said:
I think diesels only work for people doing high mileage or driving a heavy car such as a 4X4 or S class/A8/5 Series etc.
Indeed. Thats all they EVER should have been bought for. Unfortunately people became obsessed with the low tax rate on them, the better "economy" and the perceived better residuals come resale timeHow many people bought diesels to do 6,000 miles a year in? How many people bought diesels because it was simply the default choice rather than putting any thought in to their requirements? How many people bought diesels because it was the one that the PCP deal was cheapest on? How many times have we heard people saying they're changing their car "to get cheaper tax" on it?
Even now if you look at the likes of BMW for their finance offers, its diesel they are promoting wholly on non performance or electric variants.
https://offers.bmw.co.uk/finance-offers/
Its why i'm not particularly surprised / concerned about the "drop" in new diesel car sales - its merely rebalancing back to what it should have been.
Granted, running an older diesel is probably fine, but i'm talking about the buying habits of new(er) car buyers.
However why, out of curiosity, didnt you go for a petrol Citroen / car?
Edited by daemon on Tuesday 27th February 19:27
Edited by daemon on Tuesday 27th February 19:27
mikal83 said:
I have 2 petrol cars a petrol motorbike and the C5 diesel for long trips and towing a caravan which is a cazziliion times better than a petrol. Better mpg, same insurance, tax just better.
No doubt it works for you, however how is my original statement utter utter garbage?daemon said:
mikal83 said:
I have 2 petrol cars a petrol motorbike and the C5 diesel for long trips and towing a caravan which is a cazziliion times better than a petrol. Better mpg, same insurance, tax just better.
No doubt it works for you, however how is my original statement utter utter garbage?mikal83 said:
daemon said:
mikal83 said:
I have 2 petrol cars a petrol motorbike and the C5 diesel for long trips and towing a caravan which is a cazziliion times better than a petrol. Better mpg, same insurance, tax just better.
No doubt it works for you, however how is my original statement utter utter garbage?Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff