The Actual “Poor Man’s Porsche”?

The Actual “Poor Man’s Porsche”?

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biggbn

24,095 posts

222 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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PomBstard said:
biggbn said:
I ran a 928s4 about ten years ago, bought under incredible circumstances with a bash in the rear wing and no papers from a Lothario leaving the country in a hurry for the princely sum of £500...now THAT was a poor man's Porsche.
I can confirm that these are capable of turning you into a poor man...biggrin

They are rather nice, though.
Loved it.

leggly

1,799 posts

213 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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I didn’t think grown ups said “swap out”. biggrin

WonkeyDonkey

2,351 posts

105 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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911 is just the self conscious, poorly endowed mans beetle anyway.

German cars bring out the bizarre side of people.

67Dino

3,593 posts

107 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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T-195 said:
Fiat X19 as poor man's Porsche.
Surely the poor man’s Ferrari? Must be other examples of a poor man’s Ferrari too (if we’re allowed to divert the thread from insulting Porsche owners).

RobM77

35,349 posts

236 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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In my humble opinion (as someone who's owned neither), the 911 and Boxster are simply different cars. One is a rear-engined GT with four seats, and the other a mid-engined sports car with two seats. The sneering comments about the Boxster being a poor man's 911 are usually from reverse snobs and jealous individuals who own neither. From the outside, it's as non-sensical as saying an Exige is a poor man's Evora (which nobody ever says!).

cerb4.5lee

31,219 posts

182 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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RobM77 said:
In my humble opinion (as someone who's owned neither), the 911 and Boxster are simply different cars. One is a rear-engined GT with four seats, and the other a mid-engined sports car with two seats.
I know that Porsche probably don't like it but I often read that the Cayman is actually a much better car to drive than the 911. I don't know if that is actually true though because I haven't driven either, but I've read it a few times in reviews/magazines.

67Dino

3,593 posts

107 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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I’ve had four 911/Carreras over the years, and recently looked at another. It just confirmed my view that the 911has become less and less what the original car was originally about. These days, the modern equivalent in the range to the old 964 I loved so much is the Cayman, and if I’d bought another Porsche, that’s what I would have gone for.

But the Cayman isn’t cheap, and since it is also more of a 911 than the modern one, I don’t think you could reasonably say it was a ‘Poor Man’s Porsche’ or even a ‘Poor Man’s 911’.

If you want a 911 experience on a budget, then get a 996. Not exactly cheap, but brilliant value for what you get, and the last properly 911 911 IMHO.

RobM77

35,349 posts

236 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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cerb4.5lee said:
RobM77 said:
In my humble opinion (as someone who's owned neither), the 911 and Boxster are simply different cars. One is a rear-engined GT with four seats, and the other a mid-engined sports car with two seats.
I know that Porsche probably don't like it but I often read that the Cayman is actually a much better car to drive than the 911. I don't know if that is actually true though because I haven't driven either, but I've read it a few times in reviews/magazines.
I've driven a couple of Cayman Ss, but never a 911, so can't comment, but yes, I've heard that too. The Cayman certainly has the ingredients to be better.

DIW35

4,146 posts

202 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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LordHaveMurci said:
Yeah yeah, but can you afford a 911? rofl
Yes, but I don’t actually like 911s. The Cayman is my daily driver. My weekend toy is a Murcielago.

nickfrog

21,439 posts

219 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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RobM77 said:
I've driven a couple of Cayman Ss, but never a 911, so can't comment, but yes, I've heard that too. The Cayman certainly has the ingredients to be better.
I agree. The fundamental difference is their respective polar moment of inertia. Very low in the mid engined car and relatively high in the 911. This translates into a different driving experience : the Cayman is better on turn in and the 911 has a traction advantage past the apex. I prefer the Cayman irrespective of price.

CABC

5,629 posts

103 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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DIW35 said:
LordHaveMurci said:
Yeah yeah, but can you afford a 911? rofl
Yes, but I don’t actually like 911s. The Cayman is my daily driver. My weekend toy is a Murcielago.
"House!"

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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Thee is some hardcore cringe in this thread.

RIP the cringe thread.

Please, someone, resurrect it. It would be amazing, we have got even more fragile, egotistical and plain wky posters now than we ever did for the original. biggrin

sideways man

1,334 posts

139 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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As mentioned earlier;



I’d say this pretty much meets all requirements laugh

bqf

2,234 posts

173 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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I've had a 996, 997, raced Boxsters and 924s, and theyre all very good. So there we are.

But lets get into this cheese on toast for breakfast thing. Thats odd, although I'm weirdly tempted to give it a go. Brown sauce with it?

bqf

2,234 posts

173 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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sideways man said:
As mentioned earlier;



I’d say this pretty much meets all requirements laugh
In fairness, i'd be much more inclined to start up a car chat if I saw someone with a Skoda Rapid than say, a GT3. I reckon the Rapid owner will be full of good stories. The GT3 driver, less so.

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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bqf said:
I've had a 996, 997, raced Boxsters and 924s, and theyre all very good. So there we are.

But lets get into this cheese on toast for breakfast thing. Thats odd, although I'm weirdly tempted to give it a go. Brown sauce with it?
Council AF.

bqf

2,234 posts

173 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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OpulentBob said:
bqf said:
I've had a 996, 997, raced Boxsters and 924s, and theyre all very good. So there we are.

But lets get into this cheese on toast for breakfast thing. Thats odd, although I'm weirdly tempted to give it a go. Brown sauce with it?
Council AF.
Cheese on toast? Is it? Sounds quite luxurious to me

drjdog

345 posts

72 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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Weekendrebuild said:
My favourite posts ( slightly exaggerated)

“I can afford 20 Lamborghinis but I can’t justify it to myself “ so I drive a KA

Course you you can laugh
I have a acquaintance who could afford literally any car, drives a Kangoo.


When I bought my base Cayman 987, I had a budget of £15k in mind, and it turned out, for me, the very best car I could buy at that price wasn't a 996, but a 987. For a road car, I think it's slightly too fast, but it's beautiful to drive.

And for the £10k ish I paid for it, i have budget left to play around, and keep it running. It's much cheaper to run than a 996 would have been.

V1nce Fox

5,508 posts

70 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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highway said:
I’ve always thought there was something nonchalant about a base spec 911 with a manual gearbox of any generation.
Agreed. I'd be more than happy with a manual 2wd NA 996.

cerb4.5lee

31,219 posts

182 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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sideways man said:
As mentioned earlier;



I’d say this pretty much meets all requirements laugh
At 17 I found mine to be a little bit too hot to handle in the wet and I wrapped it around a lamp post! frown

It put me off RWD for quite a few years...but it did teach me a good lesson though. driving