RE: Alpine A110 | PH Fleet
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Mafffew said:
Nope wasn't that, it was on page 2, now conveniently disappeared.
I just think it's hilarious to be honest, and a bit sad.
But someone has to fight back against that Alpine propaganda machine
Sorry Maffew I thought that was it but I agree with you!I just think it's hilarious to be honest, and a bit sad.
But someone has to fight back against that Alpine propaganda machine
I think it is a sign of what a good job Alpine have done if the only detractors can shout “residual values” as a put-down only to be shown as fools on the basis of the evidence to date.
I’m going to troll a Tesla model x thread as I don’t like that rear spoiler...
What is the general view about running in? As Dan posted at the start the handbook suggests that you do not exceed 3,500rpm for the first 620 miles and avoid 'sporty' driving all the way up to 1,860 miles.
I've recently had an engine rebuild on a Renault 5 Turbo, which has been used rather mercilessly straight out of the garage on an event. I've avoided bouncing the valves but my engine builder was more concerned that I didn't make the engine labour under load rather than brief bouts of high revolutions.
Someone suggested earlier in the thread, using sport rather than normal; by which, I think they meant to avoid labouring the engine under load. I have certainly noticed that in normal it is pretty reluctant to change down but surely the automatic gearbox and engine mapping know the right parameter's to avoid stressing the engine. I think there would remain a risk in sport mode of driving in a 'sporty' manner which would seem to defeat the instructions.
I've recently had an engine rebuild on a Renault 5 Turbo, which has been used rather mercilessly straight out of the garage on an event. I've avoided bouncing the valves but my engine builder was more concerned that I didn't make the engine labour under load rather than brief bouts of high revolutions.
Someone suggested earlier in the thread, using sport rather than normal; by which, I think they meant to avoid labouring the engine under load. I have certainly noticed that in normal it is pretty reluctant to change down but surely the automatic gearbox and engine mapping know the right parameter's to avoid stressing the engine. I think there would remain a risk in sport mode of driving in a 'sporty' manner which would seem to defeat the instructions.
TurboBlue said:
What is the general view about running in? As Dan posted at the start the handbook suggests that you do not exceed 3,500rpm for the first 620 miles and avoid 'sporty' driving all the way up to 1,860 miles.
I've recently had an engine rebuild on a Renault 5 Turbo, which has been used rather mercilessly straight out of the garage on an event. I've avoided bouncing the valves but my engine builder was more concerned that I didn't make the engine labour under load rather than brief bouts of high revolutions.
Someone suggested earlier in the thread, using sport rather than normal; by which, I think they meant to avoid labouring the engine under load. I have certainly noticed that in normal it is pretty reluctant to change down but surely the automatic gearbox and engine mapping know the right parameter's to avoid stressing the engine. I think there would remain a risk in sport mode of driving in a 'sporty' manner which would seem to defeat the instructions.
I ran mine in sport mode and just had to be careful about the right foot. 12k in and the engine sounds great and revs freely. Latest software upgrade seems to have released a few more things pops and crackles when driven relatively hard.I've recently had an engine rebuild on a Renault 5 Turbo, which has been used rather mercilessly straight out of the garage on an event. I've avoided bouncing the valves but my engine builder was more concerned that I didn't make the engine labour under load rather than brief bouts of high revolutions.
Someone suggested earlier in the thread, using sport rather than normal; by which, I think they meant to avoid labouring the engine under load. I have certainly noticed that in normal it is pretty reluctant to change down but surely the automatic gearbox and engine mapping know the right parameter's to avoid stressing the engine. I think there would remain a risk in sport mode of driving in a 'sporty' manner which would seem to defeat the instructions.
TimoMak said:
More irrelevant fanboy bluster.
Does seem a bit of a cult you’ve got going on here, anybody who dares challenge the fanboys is personally insulted , called a fool or other such baseless ad hominems.
I’d think very carefully about buying one of these, a few fawning reviews do not make a solid longer term ownership proposition.
No, they’re really not for you so you might want to find another thread to haunt.Does seem a bit of a cult you’ve got going on here, anybody who dares challenge the fanboys is personally insulted , called a fool or other such baseless ad hominems.
I’d think very carefully about buying one of these, a few fawning reviews do not make a solid longer term ownership proposition.
TimoMak said:
Ah bcr, was wondering when you’d arrive. Perhaps you could tell us how many Alpines vs Caymans were sold in the UK?
Hmm, comparison of a mass produced car with a low volume, semi hand built car. Alpine UK sales ytd are 137, and Lotus 196. Porsche have sold 10,000 cars ytd in the UK, and the majority of those will be cayboxes. That's 2 years worth of total Alpine production. What point are you making?That's the way it will always be, and part of the appeal for those of us who want something a bit different. Nothing wrong with a Caybox of course, but sadly they do attract the herd mentality. I'd have thought somebody who drives a 350Z would understand that.
Edited by rick.e on Monday 21st October 19:06
Miserablegit said:
TimoMak said:
More irrelevant fanboy bluster.
Does seem a bit of a cult you’ve got going on here, anybody who dares challenge the fanboys is personally insulted , called a fool or other such baseless ad hominems.
I’d think very carefully about buying one of these, a few fawning reviews do not make a solid longer term ownership proposition.
No, they’re really not for you so you might want to find another thread to haunt.Does seem a bit of a cult you’ve got going on here, anybody who dares challenge the fanboys is personally insulted , called a fool or other such baseless ad hominems.
I’d think very carefully about buying one of these, a few fawning reviews do not make a solid longer term ownership proposition.
springfan62 said:
Miserablegit said:
No, they’re really not for you so you might want to find another thread to haunt.
Don’t feed the trolls! Quite honestly looking back over my car buying time the thing that has determined my numerous losses or occasional gains and to what percentage has not been the car itself or what anyone has said about it.
It has, without exception, been the timing of the purchase relative to the market.
I am certain that the Alpine will be no exception and so since timing a market is extremely difficult (otherwise we would all be super wealthy) I’d say it’s probably better to just buy what YOU want on the basis that if YOU love it, someone else probably will too...
It has, without exception, been the timing of the purchase relative to the market.
I am certain that the Alpine will be no exception and so since timing a market is extremely difficult (otherwise we would all be super wealthy) I’d say it’s probably better to just buy what YOU want on the basis that if YOU love it, someone else probably will too...
Julian Thompson said:
I’d say it’s probably better to just buy what YOU want on the basis that if YOU love it, someone else probably will too...
+1I understand those who buy on the basis of resale value, and I know intuitively that such strategies are not for me. Carpe diem and all that.
Most are not going to buy this sort of car fundametally on the basis of residuals - though there are doubtless others buying GT3 and GT4 Porsches for whom residuals ARE the driving force - or at least a significant issue. If I actually wanted one the prospect of ultra low cost of ownership would be very attractive. At the other end of the scale if I fancied a Mclaren depreciation would figure in my thoughts - even if it was actually affordable.
At the end of the day I have a gut-feel (and some calculation) about how much (including all factors) I'm prepared to spend on my house, my car, my holidays, my cameras, my hi fi and so on and that certailny does influence what I buy.
At the end of the day I have a gut-feel (and some calculation) about how much (including all factors) I'm prepared to spend on my house, my car, my holidays, my cameras, my hi fi and so on and that certailny does influence what I buy.
unsprung said:
Julian Thompson said:
I’d say it’s probably better to just buy what YOU want on the basis that if YOU love it, someone else probably will too...
+1I understand those who buy on the basis of resale value, and I know intuitively that such strategies are not for me. Carpe diem and all that.
I hope it never happens in my lifetime but there's plenty of evidence to say it's a real threat. I plan to enjoy every mile I can and cars like the Alpine (better still if they'd make a manual;) ) are possibly the best things this side of a 40 year old motor and £15k per year in maintenance to spend them in.
Kyyanno said:
Craikeybaby said:
Congratulations Dan!
I saw my first A110 on the road earlier in the week, it looked amazing, and tiny, amongst all the regular traffic. I was in my MR2 Roadster, so nice to have something a similar size on the road.
...you weren't out in a black roadster and waved at a Blue A110 by any chance, somewhere between Witney and Swindon?I saw my first A110 on the road earlier in the week, it looked amazing, and tiny, amongst all the regular traffic. I was in my MR2 Roadster, so nice to have something a similar size on the road.
I love these. They’re one of the few cars on sale today that I really, really want rather than just thinking “ooh, that’s nice” or “that ticks all the right boxes”. They’re just really desirable.
I had a similar experience to this last year when I bought my dream car. I remember laying awake the night before I collected it and that amazing feeling seeing something I’d worked so hard for and wanted for so long parked on my driveway. It’s one of the things that makes cars like this so special.
Hope you enjoy it Dan.
I had a similar experience to this last year when I bought my dream car. I remember laying awake the night before I collected it and that amazing feeling seeing something I’d worked so hard for and wanted for so long parked on my driveway. It’s one of the things that makes cars like this so special.
Hope you enjoy it Dan.
ClaphamGT3 said:
Why the strange obsession by some with residual values?
Brand new sports car loses money shocker - unless a buyer couldn’t really afford it in the first place, I can’t really see why this is news?
Yep couldn't agree more. Brand new sports car loses money shocker - unless a buyer couldn’t really afford it in the first place, I can’t really see why this is news?
And being honest, I think the Alpine will do very well residually in the medium-long term as all special Renaults do. There is some nonsense posted on here sometimes.
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