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yonex said:
Heard they were (slightly) more benign due to the wheelbase?
I've never driven a Cerbera so can't comment on that.
I'm pretty confident on my facts about it having the most seats though.
They are of different times, the Cerbera and the Sag.
A more interesting question is Typhon Vs. Sagaris.
But as this is the question, the Sag I describe as telepathic to drive. The quick steering, the immediate response, but it is the most initiative car to drive.
The Cerb, less so. That doesn't mean it is a lesser car, by any stretch of the imagination. I think that they are one of the perfect TVR designs and reputation. But the only way it can beat a Sagaris IMHO is in the GT stakes. The Sag really, really shouldn't be driven more than a few hours at a time.
A more interesting question is Typhon Vs. Sagaris.
But as this is the question, the Sag I describe as telepathic to drive. The quick steering, the immediate response, but it is the most initiative car to drive.
The Cerb, less so. That doesn't mean it is a lesser car, by any stretch of the imagination. I think that they are one of the perfect TVR designs and reputation. But the only way it can beat a Sagaris IMHO is in the GT stakes. The Sag really, really shouldn't be driven more than a few hours at a time.
It would have been even more interesting had Sagaris been produced with compliance on emissions and crash safety -- and subsequently exported worldwide.
I can see the attraction of producing low volumes with inconsistent quality and at high RRPs for but a few. But the great could have been glorious.
Clockwork Cupcake said:
I owned a Chimaera 500 before the Sagaris, and the latter is *way* more benign. Not only is snap oversteer far less unexpected, far harder to provoke (unless you request it), but it is far better telegraphed, and far more instinctive to catch.
But you also described it earlier as a work out to drive and not particular suitable to our British roads.It's a light car so it should be able to have relatively soft springs but still handle well. The fact it doesn't strikes me that there are still fundamental problems even with the final TVR paltform, whether that's lack of torsional rigidity or poor suspension geometry, I don't know.
Olivera said:
But you also described it earlier as a work out to drive and not particular suitable to our British roads.
It's a light car so it should be able to have relatively soft springs but still handle well. The fact it doesn't strikes me that there are still fundamental problems even with the final TVR paltform, whether that's lack of torsional rigidity or poor suspension geometry, I don't know.
True. It could be set up too stiff and low. Track-optimised, perhaps.It's a light car so it should be able to have relatively soft springs but still handle well. The fact it doesn't strikes me that there are still fundamental problems even with the final TVR paltform, whether that's lack of torsional rigidity or poor suspension geometry, I don't know.
Anyway, be that as it may, I find it far more intuitive to catch than the Chimaera. As Don says, it's almost telepathic.
But it is a track-focused car. Far too hot, noisy and cramped for the real world. My wife always knows when I have been in the Sag - she says I smell of sweat, adrenaline and hot car. She loves it...!
On track you need 458 levels to keep away from it, they are light and fast but my word they are not made for long distance driving.
On track you need 458 levels to keep away from it, they are light and fast but my word they are not made for long distance driving.
Looking at the sagaris i can't think of any other car which after so many years still looks so good it could have been revealed today. I genuinely dont know of any other.
Yes there's plenty of cars which look good but how many are now old designs which if wheeled out now would still provoke the response a sagaris gets.
Yes there's plenty of cars which look good but how many are now old designs which if wheeled out now would still provoke the response a sagaris gets.
Don1 said:
But it is a track-focused car. Far too hot, noisy and cramped for the real world. My wife always knows when I have been in the Sag - she says I smell of sweat, adrenaline and hot car. She loves it...!
I always smell of exhaust and engine oil after driving Her Slagness. Never have got to the bottom of that. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff