What FWD car would you make RWD?
Discussion
I think front drive suits small short wheelbase hatchbacks, like the Clio, but less so larger cars or sports cars. I nominate:
Toyota Celica
Lotus Elan
Integra Type R
Accord Type R
As for the second question of 4WD to RWD, I'd nominate any of the recent German saloons that now come with 4WD as standard, such as the more powerful 5 series variants.
Toyota Celica
Lotus Elan
Integra Type R
Accord Type R
As for the second question of 4WD to RWD, I'd nominate any of the recent German saloons that now come with 4WD as standard, such as the more powerful 5 series variants.
Integra Type R was my first thought, but I can see I'm not the only one!
I've always felt like these quickly languished into unloved shed territory and they had potential to be classics, they looked great imo and the small Mivec V6 would have made it a desirable sports car more akin to to the 200sx had it been rwd.
I've always felt like these quickly languished into unloved shed territory and they had potential to be classics, they looked great imo and the small Mivec V6 would have made it a desirable sports car more akin to to the 200sx had it been rwd.
s m said:
When Pentti Airikkala ran his driving courses he had a Mondeo V6 and Sapphire RS for people to learn in. He said people always wanted to drive the Sapphire but they were nearly always faster in the V6 Mondeo
I can believe that, a Mondeo is an easy car to drive quickly, a high power Sierra isn't very forgiving at all!
njw1 said:
s m said:
When Pentti Airikkala ran his driving courses he had a Mondeo V6 and Sapphire RS for people to learn in. He said people always wanted to drive the Sapphire but they were nearly always faster in the V6 Mondeo
I can believe that, a Mondeo is an easy car to drive quickly, a high power Sierra isn't very forgiving at all!
RobM77 said:
njw1 said:
s m said:
When Pentti Airikkala ran his driving courses he had a Mondeo V6 and Sapphire RS for people to learn in. He said people always wanted to drive the Sapphire but they were nearly always faster in the V6 Mondeo
I can believe that, a Mondeo is an easy car to drive quickly, a high power Sierra isn't very forgiving at all!
Couldn't agree more! I went from my last Sierra to an e39 and found the e39 to be so competent in comparison I actually found it a bit boring, I could drive the e39 quickly without trying, to drive the Sierra quickly you had to take it by the scruff and really drive it (no T/C, ABS or power steering and very short gearing!) but by christ it was bloody good fun.
RobM77 said:
I bet they’d enjoy the Sierra more though. Nobody’s timing you on the road and timing’s not allowed on track days. Road cars, therefore, are about enjoyment, not speed. Sensation of speed, yes, but not some guy with a stopwatch telling you you’re 2 seconds faster.
Oddly enough when the South Africans were dropping a big lump into the Sierra they had to redesign the rear suspension to... reduce understeer. Yet again, RWD isn't a panacea.Darkslider said:
Integra Type R was my first thought, but I can see I'm not the only one!
I've always felt like these quickly languished into unloved shed territory and they had potential to be classics, they looked great imo and the small Mivec V6 would have made it a desirable sports car more akin to to the 200sx had it been rwd.
Agreed. Why Mitsubishi thought that body deserved V6 FWD mainly auto warrants some explaining. I had one briefly, but very briefly.I've always felt like these quickly languished into unloved shed territory and they had potential to be classics, they looked great imo and the small Mivec V6 would have made it a desirable sports car more akin to to the 200sx had it been rwd.
aeropilot said:
sideways man said:
MC Bodge said:
The Sunbeam Lotus was an example of this arrangement. I've never driven one, although a former colleague had one in the oast and said it was great fun.
My Sunbeam Lotus was the most predictable, oversteery, car. I had an lsd in mine and in the wet it really was my dream car. A very damp lotus owners club castle combe track day is probably my driving career highlight, showing those Elise owners how to drive properly 
Did a Club Lotus track day at Donington Park in it as well....
It's a great pity the RWD hatchback has gone again. I'd be tempted to replace my wife's Fiesta with an E82 1-series, but the electric steering puts me off and I always seem to find BMWs a bit disappointing.
Darryl247W said:
Darkslider said:
Integra Type R was my first thought, but I can see I'm not the only one!
I've always felt like these quickly languished into unloved shed territory and they had potential to be classics, they looked great imo and the small Mivec V6 would have made it a desirable sports car more akin to to the 200sx had it been rwd.
Agreed. Why Mitsubishi thought that body deserved V6 FWD mainly auto warrants some explaining. I had one briefly, but very briefly.I've always felt like these quickly languished into unloved shed territory and they had potential to be classics, they looked great imo and the small Mivec V6 would have made it a desirable sports car more akin to to the 200sx had it been rwd.
FA57REN said:
Oddly enough when the South Africans were dropping a big lump into the Sierra they had to redesign the rear suspension to... reduce understeer. Yet again, RWD isn't a panacea.
I doubt that sticking a V8 in that weighed probably twice as much as a Pinto was ever going to do much for the handling....
TameRacingDriver said:
fieldmau5 said:
So an S15 Silvia then?
Which is heavier, turbocharged and RWD, yeah just like a 'teg.I'll say it again, just no. The ITR is best as a FWD car, and I say that having owned plenty of RWD stuff too.
I'm saying if they wanted an RWD DC5 it practically already exists.
There's only 50kg in the difference and they made them in both N/A and Turbo.
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