RE: Lunaz completes world's first electric Bentley
Discussion
bigothunter said:
otolith said:
cookie1600 said:
So where do your draw the line then? Is converting a 1930's era, 4 ½ litre Bentley Blower or a Ferrari 250 GTO acceptable?
Is the best thing about their drivetrains that you can't hear or feel them?
If I were a cad about town, not wishing to mix with the hoi polloi on public transport - this is just perfect.
More than enough range to deal with London, crash protection sufficient for the typical speeds around Town, comfortable and classy as f
k.
XK I feel a little more conflicted about - but then I suppose without kids there's no need for back seats in the scenario above...
More than enough range to deal with London, crash protection sufficient for the typical speeds around Town, comfortable and classy as f
k. XK I feel a little more conflicted about - but then I suppose without kids there's no need for back seats in the scenario above...
otolith said:
bigothunter said:
otolith said:
cookie1600 said:
So where do your draw the line then? Is converting a 1930's era, 4 ½ litre Bentley Blower or a Ferrari 250 GTO acceptable?
Is the best thing about their drivetrains that you can't hear or feel them?
Do those frothing at the keyboard over this sort of thing not realise that those who originally built the cars would have loved it?
The actual engineers, technologists and trail-blazers who eked the most out of what they had at the time would have given their left bk to exploit the tech we have now in whatever way they could.
The Flying Scotsman analogy is nonsensical because that is a specific piece of history, a singular entity. Of course that shouldn't be meddled with.
An old Rolls, Bentley or Jag, of which many were produced, and that this will give a second lease of life to? Go for it. Show us what you can do.
This place sometimes: "We need to awaken the slumbering beast that is British automotive engineering. No not like that"
The actual engineers, technologists and trail-blazers who eked the most out of what they had at the time would have given their left b
k to exploit the tech we have now in whatever way they could.The Flying Scotsman analogy is nonsensical because that is a specific piece of history, a singular entity. Of course that shouldn't be meddled with.
An old Rolls, Bentley or Jag, of which many were produced, and that this will give a second lease of life to? Go for it. Show us what you can do.
This place sometimes: "We need to awaken the slumbering beast that is British automotive engineering. No not like that"
bigothunter said:
otolith said:
bigothunter said:
otolith said:
cookie1600 said:
So where do your draw the line then? Is converting a 1930's era, 4 ½ litre Bentley Blower or a Ferrari 250 GTO acceptable?
Is the best thing about their drivetrains that you can't hear or feel them?And as triggered by this as you seem to be, the fact remains that this is a 'one of many the same' Bentleys that required a full resto before the EV bits even went in. Nobody is talking about ripping the guts out of an already immaculate, exceptionally rare example like the above.
Lets try this - if I had no legs and I was offered some robotic ones, I would not moan that they were not 'original'.
cookie1600 said:
Dark85 said:
How many people own a thatched cottage but have modern heating, fancy kitchens etc fitted? I see this as essentially the same.
In which case we should start having an enforceable 'listed status' for older, iconic classic cars so they can't be buggered about with. Time to get a National Trust for cars so they can be enjoyed by the public as they were when they were at their heyday? At the end of the day, its only a bloody car and they made quite a few of them in various guises, plus S1's and S3's and a fair few Silver Clouds, not that long ago this sort of thing happened, as they were weren't worth much.
There is no shortage of them if you want to buy one, I think the world can spare a few for electrification, especially if it was needing restoration to start with as in a lot of cases a ropey one will need more spending to get it to what they should look like than they would be worth. Its a huge car and takes a hell of a lot of work.
Nobody seems all that bothered about the RR Shadow, Spirit, Bentley T series and stuff like that, we get reverential about old cars like this but they are a consumer item with a largely finite lifespan, it isnt like a one off building as they made more than one, quite a few in fact.
Adding further fuel to the fire I'd suggest one of these, a 250SE, be a reasonable candidate too.
I can see some wistful fondness for the 280 with the V8, so fair enough leaving it alone, but would anyone mourn the replacement of the 2.5?
I'd argue it would do the beautifully elegant design even more service to have it just glide around silently.
I can see some wistful fondness for the 280 with the V8, so fair enough leaving it alone, but would anyone mourn the replacement of the 2.5?
I'd argue it would do the beautifully elegant design even more service to have it just glide around silently.
PhantomPH said:
Yes. 100%.
And as triggered by this as you seem to be, the fact remains that this is a 'one of many the same' Bentleys that required a full resto before the EV bits even went in. Nobody is talking about ripping the guts out of an already immaculate, exceptionally rare example like the above.
Lets try this - if I had no legs and I was offered some robotic ones, I would not moan that they were not 'original'.
But what if they then told you your new legs only worked via a touchscreen? And as triggered by this as you seem to be, the fact remains that this is a 'one of many the same' Bentleys that required a full resto before the EV bits even went in. Nobody is talking about ripping the guts out of an already immaculate, exceptionally rare example like the above.
Lets try this - if I had no legs and I was offered some robotic ones, I would not moan that they were not 'original'.
DonkeyApple said:
PhantomPH said:
Yes. 100%.
And as triggered by this as you seem to be, the fact remains that this is a 'one of many the same' Bentleys that required a full resto before the EV bits even went in. Nobody is talking about ripping the guts out of an already immaculate, exceptionally rare example like the above.
Lets try this - if I had no legs and I was offered some robotic ones, I would not moan that they were not 'original'.
But what if they then told you your new legs only worked via a touchscreen? And as triggered by this as you seem to be, the fact remains that this is a 'one of many the same' Bentleys that required a full resto before the EV bits even went in. Nobody is talking about ripping the guts out of an already immaculate, exceptionally rare example like the above.
Lets try this - if I had no legs and I was offered some robotic ones, I would not moan that they were not 'original'.
PhantomPH said:
DonkeyApple said:
PhantomPH said:
Lets try this - if I had no legs and I was offered some robotic ones, I would not moan that they were not 'original'.
But what if they then told you your new legs only worked via a touchscreen? Firstly, EVs are cleaner than ICEVs only if used as dailies: this is more polluting than an existing flying spur which won‘t do more than 5000 miles a year.
Secondly, buliding this destroys an existing rare, wonderful, and historic vehicle.
As such, it is not only ste, but it should also be forbidden fir damaging both the environment and an historically valuable monument.
Secondly, buliding this destroys an existing rare, wonderful, and historic vehicle.
As such, it is not only s
te, but it should also be forbidden fir damaging both the environment and an historically valuable monument.Edited by virgilio on Tuesday 2nd March 18:11
leglessAlex said:
PhantomPH said:
DonkeyApple said:
PhantomPH said:
Lets try this - if I had no legs and I was offered some robotic ones, I would not moan that they were not 'original'.
But what if they then told you your new legs only worked via a touchscreen? 
I fricken love technology.
DonkeyApple said:
But the whole point of Bentley by 1960 was that you shouldn't either hear or feel them.
That is true but that was 60 years ago when it was cutting edge tech (if not cutting edge, then contemporary). In 2021, that wonderfully smooth and quiet powertrain, so lauded in 1960, is clearly is nothing of the sort when compared to an EV.
So now it has become something else. A historic artefact which has a fascination all of its own.
If owned an original Bentley like this I would marvel at the engineering. Endlessly tinkering in the garage. I'd probably spend far too long just looking at the engine. If you replaced it with a black box and bunch of batteries it would lose all of its charm as far as I'm concerned.
Some people might disagree and prefer the EV alternative but it's not so hard to understand my POV surely?
Your arguments are all very rational and you clearly know your science but a lot of us on here are more emotional beings. (for better or worse)
Numeric said:
Genuine question - why?
For the same reason that no antique dealer would rip the innards and face off a grandfather clock and replace it with a digital display that you can control with an app. Edited by Numeric on Tuesday 2nd March 10:34
For the same reason that the modern CGI series of Thunderbirds is nothing short of offensive.
For the same reason we have listed buildings yet they don't make any sense.
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