RE: Bugatti Veyron 16.4 | PH Used Buying Guide
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Something to consider for all those pining for F40s,F1s,959s etc over the Veyron-how good a driver are you in the real world?I remember a great feature in Evo years ago,with the Veyron,Enzo,Carrera GT,Zonda.It was said that the Veyron was very straightforward to drive,basically at normal speeds as pliable as a fast DSG Golf.I suppose for many of you that'd count against it, because it'd be 'too easy to drive'.At faster speeds on real world French roads,the Veyron could easily hold station with the other cars,and the driver was working a lot less harder.So,insane running costs aside,I think that most of us would actually find the Veyron easier to enjoy.I know that's probably sacriligeous to say out loud,but put it this way-in a scenario of hustling an F40 or F1 on a twisty road and losing the rear end,how many of us are really good enough to get control again?Not sure if I'd be able to.So while the F1 is my fantasy car,I freely admit I'd rather drive a Veyron!
Edited by BelfastBoy on Thursday 8th April 19:43
BelfastBoy said:
Something to consider for all those pining for F40s,F1s,959s etc over the Veyron-how good a driver are you in the real world?I remember a great feature in Evo years ago,with the Veyron,Enzo,Carrera GT,Zonda.It was said that the Veyron was very straightforward to drive,basically at normal speeds as pliable as a fast DSG Golf.I suppose for many of you that'd count against it, because it'd be 'too easy to drive'.At faster speeds on real world French roads,the Veyron could easily hold station with the other cars,and the driver was working a lot less harder.So,insane running costs aside,I think that most of us would actually find the Veyron easier to enjoy.I know that's probably sacriligeous to say out loud,but put it this way-in a scenario of hustling an F40 or F1 on a twisty road and losing the rear end,how many of us are really good enough to get control again?Not sure if I'd be able to.So while the F1 is my fantasy car,I freely admit I'd rather drive a Veyron!
But no one's using them as a daily or have a go car. They're garage queen's brought out occassionally and in those instances you want to come alive, not merely wake up in comfort.Edited by BelfastBoy on Thursday 8th April 19:43
Pommy said:
But no one's using them as a daily or have a go car. They're garage queen's brought out occassionally and in those instances you want to come alive, not merely wake up in comfort.
I doubt many owners are using Veyrons as daily drivers either.My point is that there are fantasy cars that we had on our walls as posters,but most of us mere mortals would be less intimidated in a Veyron.In the real world,it's probably easier to live with.BelfastBoy said:
Pommy said:
But no one's using them as a daily or have a go car. They're garage queen's brought out occassionally and in those instances you want to come alive, not merely wake up in comfort.
I doubt many owners are using Veyrons as daily drivers either.My point is that there are fantasy cars that we had on our walls as posters,but most of us mere mortals would be less intimidated in a Veyron.In the real world,it's probably easier to live with.It's sits uncomfortably between being too new to not drive and too expensive to run if you do drive it.
Pommy said:
But that's exactly my point, it's also a garage queen in the main. If you had the aforementioned selection in the garage you wouldn't exactly choose the Veyron for an afternoon blast.
It's sits uncomfortably between being too new to not drive and too expensive to run if you do drive it.
Fair enough.I suppose if you had very deep pockets,you could potentially consider a Veyron more usable than the likes of a Zonda.VW overengineered it to be reliable enough,after all.(Running costs for tyres etc are absurd though.)I guess at the time it was the ultimate Top Trumps kind of car-turn up in a Veyron,you know you're faster than pretty much anything else present.It's sits uncomfortably between being too new to not drive and too expensive to run if you do drive it.
People laugh about about these as DD but always used to see a couple parked up at the Dorcester on Park Lane. Agree with above posters they look quite small, but much prettier in real life than photos. Normally an older guy driving with his young "niece" in tow, you have to ask yourself is he really happy 
Probably more common sight than some of the other supercars of the time (Carrera GT, Enzo, Zonda). I think I've seen one Enzo, one CGT and never seen the Zonda in London.
Running costs a bit silly, I know the owners are most likely billionaire but 40k for a new set of tyres - I mean it must sting just a little. Then again probably family office paying the bill not them, just an entry on a spreadsheet.
Probably more common sight than some of the other supercars of the time (Carrera GT, Enzo, Zonda). I think I've seen one Enzo, one CGT and never seen the Zonda in London.
Running costs a bit silly, I know the owners are most likely billionaire but 40k for a new set of tyres - I mean it must sting just a little. Then again probably family office paying the bill not them, just an entry on a spreadsheet.
I had that on the Amiga. F40 or 959 for me too.
Blackpuddin said:
Charles Sweeney said:
Thanks for the guide. Really handy.
Ha, you won't be so sneery when your lottery numbers come up. 
the running costs are insane and whilst it was a techno marvel 15 years ago, things have moved way way on.
Kegg's performance make them look like a 3 cly diesel, which is not helped with them weighing 2 tonne
Theres even a Golf R that can leave them for dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QusJi11ngck
Sorry for the old thread revival - But i was wondering (as you do). Based upon the current Veyron extended warranty/service plans, which one would hope has reduced some of those service and parts costs that used to banded around??
Whats more expensive to own and service: An early Veyron or a Porsche 959.
The 959 was every bit the tour de force and envelope pushing engineering excersise that the Veyron was - Infact if you think of what was around before the 959 and what was around before ther Veyron, I'd say the 959 for its time was an even more impressive feat of engineering.
Both were built at a massive loss to their manufactures and both could be purchased for similar money today - Although i would imagine the 959 is a better long term investment?
But i understand the 959 has similar eye watering servicing costs to they Veyron? With old magnisium wheels, special tyres, a clutch and flywheel and BIG numbers for an oil change?
Whats more expensive to own and service: An early Veyron or a Porsche 959.
The 959 was every bit the tour de force and envelope pushing engineering excersise that the Veyron was - Infact if you think of what was around before the 959 and what was around before ther Veyron, I'd say the 959 for its time was an even more impressive feat of engineering.
Both were built at a massive loss to their manufactures and both could be purchased for similar money today - Although i would imagine the 959 is a better long term investment?
But i understand the 959 has similar eye watering servicing costs to they Veyron? With old magnisium wheels, special tyres, a clutch and flywheel and BIG numbers for an oil change?
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