I've become bored of cars.

[carinaman]

SuffolkDefender said:

I've had motorcycles and yes, they're exciting - when every other driver isn't trying to kill you with their lack of attention, or the roads aren't trying to derail you with potholes, poor surfacing, loose gravel and wet leaves; I've crashed and been knocked off, broken bones and opened skin thanks to bikes. I've been a motorcyclist since I was 16 and I'm bordering on 50, riding for a large part of those years everything from TS50X to CBR600, GSXR1100K, Multistrada, R1, R6, ZX6, Hayabusa and two BMWs including an R1200RT. I like bikes. But practical they are not, especially in the winter, the rain, or when you want to go out with friends or family without getting dressed up as if you're going to fight the Power Rangers.

I have a 4-door 'family' sports car because I need four doors and a boot, not two seats that you have to get off after, at best, 100 miles and with a carrying capacity of less than a Peugeot 106.

So yes, probably sell the M3 and keep the Pulsar whilst I debate my next move.

I'll agree with you on the state of the roads.

I also use a car and a bicycle. The motorcycle isn't used for commuting and sometimes I get the opportunity to use the roads when there's not much traffic about.

[SuffolkDefender]

Well, I am both surprised and not surprised by the contributions to this thread. I am not alone in my thoughts! Thanks everyone for their comments (so far....)

Most likely, the M3 will go in the near future, and I will keep the Pulsar GTI for a while longer before getting another MX5. The Pulsar is stock, 240bhp-ish, and it pops and wheezes when you go through the gears; and you know when you're doing 80mph.

Maybe it's not all bad after all.

[courty]

The OP seems to be answering this question.. https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Edited by courty on Friday 20th May 23:54

[courty]

I never had any modern cars past 2002. But I rowed back from an Alfa 156 GTA with 240hp to a little 1980's Lancia saloon with a zingy 1.6 and 105hp. The Lancia does local saloon duties and countryside touring and the little engine winds up with a lot of cheer.
I also do about 5000 miles a year in a 1970's Alfa Spider. That car is not boring either...but both of them do need a garage and are classic cars. The GTA was good, but it weighed 1400kg..so never was going to be sporty...it was also just uncomfortable and crashed around on our crappy roads. The two classics just ripple over the bumps and roly poly round the corners very well...and are more rewarding to drive in every way. I can see the problem though about having a general dogsbody/motorway muncher/modern use for high mileage that is also fun to drive...I don't need such a car so don't have that problem thankfully. Someone I know has a VW up! GTI and they love it...still, not really a motorway muncher either, but motorways aren't really fun to drive in anything are they?

[cerb4.5lee]

SuffolkDefender said:

Well, I am both surprised and not surprised by the contributions to this thread. I am not alone in my thoughts! Thanks everyone for their comments (so far....)

Most likely, the M3 will go in the near future, and I will keep the Pulsar GTI for a while longer before getting another MX5. The Pulsar is stock, 240bhp-ish, and it pops and wheezes when you go through the gears; and you know when you're doing 80mph.

Maybe it's not all bad after all.

What I'd do for another SR20DET in my life for sure!

I can't tell you how much I loved the gently modded S14a 200SX that I had, and I remember having a bit of fun with a very modded GTi-R and it absolutely wiped the floor with me!

[Quavers]

Years ago there was a sense of achievement when you bought something nice.
But not anymore - everybody has the latest good thing on tick. That feeling of " I've made it" has gone.
I drive an 18 year old e60 - oddly I have been looking at mk3 cavaliers a lot lately.....

[otolith]

Quavers said:

Years ago there was a sense of achievement when you bought something nice.
But not anymore - everybody has the latest good thing on tick. That feeling of " I've made it" has gone.
I drive an 18 year old e60 - oddly I have been looking at mk3 cavaliers a lot lately.....

Healthier to have cars because you want them, than to tell your neighbours “you’ve made it”?

[anonymous-user]

Itsallicanafford said:

Hey, I’m 47 as well….

I’m not sure if this has been mentioned but Track days are the answer here. Get a Clio 182 or similar and you can have a blast…

This. Once you’ve gone on track then you will be see road driving in a whole new light. I now daily drive an old 911 and get my kicks on track, it’s a much better balance. (Clios are immense fun on track btw)

[bennno]

Echo the OP’s feelings. Now late 40’s and the V90 gets a lot of use as it’s easy, comfortable, refined etc.

For fun I’ve ditched my gt4, 540c, twin turbo’ d SL and a GT Mustang and bought a 4/4 Morgan. Detested them years ago, now it’s just fun, wring its neck and it feels like you are in a classic GP, although speed isn’t licence risking. Gr86 on way also.

[C70R]

Quavers said:

Years ago there was a sense of achievement when you bought something nice.
But not anymore - everybody has the latest good thing on tick. That feeling of " I've made it" has gone.
I drive an 18 year old e60 - oddly I have been looking at mk3 cavaliers a lot lately.....

I've never understood this sense of achievement thing in buying something. I don't get people who are 'proud' of their cars.

Be proud of your family, your health, your personal achievements. Don't be proud because you've bought something.

[Finglescave]

SuffolkDefender said:

Well, I am both surprised and not surprised by the contributions to this thread. I am not alone in my thoughts! Thanks everyone for their comments (so far....)

Most likely, the M3 will go in the near future, and I will keep the Pulsar GTI for a while longer before getting another MX5. The Pulsar is stock, 240bhp-ish, and it pops and wheezes when you go through the gears; and you know when you're doing 80mph.

Maybe it's not all bad after all.

I had a Starlet GT Turbo a few years back and its the car i miss the most out of the cars I’ve had. It wasn’t the fastest car prob 150bhp with the mods it had but the turbo/induction noises and the fun i had going through the gears with it has never been topped. The only car that got close was a Clio 182FF. I’m clearly weird as i found the MK5 Golf GTI to be the most dull and lifeless car in the world a few years later. If you find something you like then run with it.

[Slow]

C70R said:

Quavers said:

Years ago there was a sense of achievement when you bought something nice.
But not anymore - everybody has the latest good thing on tick. That feeling of " I've made it" has gone.
I drive an 18 year old e60 - oddly I have been looking at mk3 cavaliers a lot lately.....

I've never understood this sense of achievement thing in buying something. I don't get people who are 'proud' of their cars.

Be proud of your family, your health, your personal achievements. Don't be proud because you've bought something.

People are proud of different things. Some people it may be family, others may be that artwork they always wanted, a house, a watch, a mountain they climbed or a car.

[LamedonM]

cerb4.5lee said:

Tlandcruiser said:

Personally for fun cars, it has to be roof off…..driving my Elise with the roof on is fun….but roof off it’s completely different experience.

While your m3 is a fantastic car, I bet you would have more fun in a mx5/Porsche boxter with the roof down on a summers day or my favourite time of year; evening driving in the summer with the roof off.

I love my 370Z Roadster for the roof off experience/noise, but I also really appreciate the F82 M4 for the performance/torque thrust as well.

I don't know how the OP can be bored of the F80 M3. I recommend swapping the M3 for something like a Dacia Duster/Nissan Juke etc, then surely he/she would understand the real meaning of boredom then.

Probably OP does not understand how to drive a rear wheel torque car. Select your M button to choose: Sport for engine, Sport + for suspension, comfort for steering and choose 3 for the DCT gear change. Hold your nerve, brake late or let off accelerator slightly when approaching a bend, and place the wheel at the Apex of the bend, accelerate gently out of the Apex and the bend, pay attention to the sound and the grip of the wheels, feel the magic of M differential, feel the sensation of being pushed out.
You would appreciate you have one hell of a car

It won’t be as nimble as a smaller, but you would still enjoy it

[C70R]

Slow said:

C70R said:

Quavers said:

Years ago there was a sense of achievement when you bought something nice.
But not anymore - everybody has the latest good thing on tick. That feeling of " I've made it" has gone.
I drive an 18 year old e60 - oddly I have been looking at mk3 cavaliers a lot lately.....

I've never understood this sense of achievement thing in buying something. I don't get people who are 'proud' of their cars.

Be proud of your family, your health, your personal achievements. Don't be proud because you've bought something.

People are proud of different things. Some people it may be family, others may be that artwork they always wanted, a house, a watch, a mountain they climbed or a car.

I just think it's a bit tragic to be proud of buying a material object.

[LamedonM]

C70R said:

Quavers said:

Years ago there was a sense of achievement when you bought something nice.
But not anymore - everybody has the latest good thing on tick. That feeling of " I've made it" has gone.
I drive an 18 year old e60 - oddly I have been looking at mk3 cavaliers a lot lately.....

I've never understood this sense of achievement thing in buying something. I don't get people who are 'proud' of their cars.

Be proud of your family, your health, your personal achievements. Don't be proud because you've bought something.

What are these ‘personal achievements’?. What is an achievement to you (e.g. becoming a director of an organisation ?) may be detested by others.

[LamedonM]

C70R said:

Slow said:

C70R said:

Quavers said:

Years ago there was a sense of achievement when you bought something nice.
But not anymore - everybody has the latest good thing on tick. That feeling of " I've made it" has gone.
I drive an 18 year old e60 - oddly I have been looking at mk3 cavaliers a lot lately.....

I've never understood this sense of achievement thing in buying something. I don't get people who are 'proud' of their cars.

Be proud of your family, your health, your personal achievements. Don't be proud because you've bought something.

People are proud of different things. Some people it may be family, others may be that artwork they always wanted, a house, a watch, a mountain they climbed or a car.

I just think it's a bit tragic to be proud of buying a material object.

According to you: it would be tragic to be proud to buy a house? Because it is a material object as well. You could as well be living in a cave. In short, don’t invalidate the feelings of others

Edited by LamedonM on Saturday 21st May 10:47

[Slow]

C70R said:

Slow said:

C70R said:

Quavers said:

Years ago there was a sense of achievement when you bought something nice.
But not anymore - everybody has the latest good thing on tick. That feeling of " I've made it" has gone.
I drive an 18 year old e60 - oddly I have been looking at mk3 cavaliers a lot lately.....

I've never understood this sense of achievement thing in buying something. I don't get people who are 'proud' of their cars.

Be proud of your family, your health, your personal achievements. Don't be proud because you've bought something.

People are proud of different things. Some people it may be family, others may be that artwork they always wanted, a house, a watch, a mountain they climbed or a car.

I just think it's a bit tragic to be proud of buying a material object.

Imagine you have always been poor but after 20 years you have saved up to buy that thing you have wanted that entire time. Damn right you should feel proud you got the thing you wanted.

[C70R]

Slow said:

C70R said:

Slow said:

C70R said:

Quavers said:

Years ago there was a sense of achievement when you bought something nice.
But not anymore - everybody has the latest good thing on tick. That feeling of " I've made it" has gone.
I drive an 18 year old e60 - oddly I have been looking at mk3 cavaliers a lot lately.....

I've never understood this sense of achievement thing in buying something. I don't get people who are 'proud' of their cars.

Be proud of your family, your health, your personal achievements. Don't be proud because you've bought something.

People are proud of different things. Some people it may be family, others may be that artwork they always wanted, a house, a watch, a mountain they climbed or a car.

I just think it's a bit tragic to be proud of buying a material object.

Imagine you have always been poor but after 20 years you have saved up to buy that thing you have wanted that entire time. Damn right you should feel proud you got the thing you wanted.

Totally normal to feel pride in the achievement of saving, and I say that as someone who grew up very poor. But having pride in owning a thing is just weirdly materialistic.

[C70R]

LamedonM said:

C70R said:

Slow said:

C70R said:

Quavers said:

Years ago there was a sense of achievement when you bought something nice.
But not anymore - everybody has the latest good thing on tick. That feeling of " I've made it" has gone.
I drive an 18 year old e60 - oddly I have been looking at mk3 cavaliers a lot lately.....

I've never understood this sense of achievement thing in buying something. I don't get people who are 'proud' of their cars.

Be proud of your family, your health, your personal achievements. Don't be proud because you've bought something.

People are proud of different things. Some people it may be family, others may be that artwork they always wanted, a house, a watch, a mountain they climbed or a car.

I just think it's a bit tragic to be proud of buying a material object.

According to you: it would be tragic to be proud to buy a house? Because it is a material object as well. You could as well be living in a cave. In short, don’t invalidate the feelings of others

Edited by LamedonM on Saturday 21st May 10:47

Housing is a bad example of a material possession. Shelter is a basic human requirement, so it makes sense to have pride in that as an achievement.

A nice watch or a nice car don't tend to feature on Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

[MightyBadger]

SuffolkDefender said:

Well, I am both surprised and not surprised by the contributions to this thread. I am not alone in my thoughts! Thanks everyone for their comments (so far....)

Most likely, the M3 will go in the near future, and I will keep the Pulsar GTI for a while longer before getting another MX5. The Pulsar is stock, 240bhp-ish, and it pops and wheezes when you go through the gears; and you know when you're doing 80mph.

Maybe it's not all bad after all.

That sounds like a great plan, enjoy.