RE: Range Rover TDV8 (L322) | PH Heroes
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jwwbowe said:
These are just as susceptible to tasteless mods as a RRS. Unpopular opinion but a RRS L320 is more like a RR Classic than a L322 anyways, the size is more comparable as is the interior layout.
Such a shame so many black on black L322s littered with chrome tat can be found in urban areas sat on their bump stops due to questionable owners who are unable to maintain them properly.
On the other hand a decent colour in standard condition without tints is a lovely thing. If I resided in the sticks I’d be sorely tempted by a well looked after example.
It's going to be a good 10 or 20 years before the RRS loses the terrible image. Such a shame so many black on black L322s littered with chrome tat can be found in urban areas sat on their bump stops due to questionable owners who are unable to maintain them properly.
On the other hand a decent colour in standard condition without tints is a lovely thing. If I resided in the sticks I’d be sorely tempted by a well looked after example.
I can't think of a car I desire to own less based purely on image.
ChocolateFrog said:
It's going to be a good 10 or 20 years before the RRS loses the terrible image.
I can't think of a car I desire to own less based purely on image.
I agree 100% with one exception, a very early Supercharged RRS in Orange, as the launch cars were.I can't think of a car I desire to own less based purely on image.
I don’t know why but I want one.
Jon_S_Rally said:
I think these suffer from the same issue that so many cars do - while the resale price goes down, the repair costs largely stay the same. These were an expensive, complex car when they were new. It's similar (though not as extreme) as buying an old Ferrari. You just can't expect to run them on Fiesta money.
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Agree, people confuse lack of maintenance with poor reliability. My Disco needs lower front suspension arms and a rear prop shaft bearing, along with new front brake discs. Probably about a grand there to spend with my local indie. Just the price you pay for owning such a thing..
pSyCoSiS said:
Love these and always keep an eye out for a bargain. Enjoyed reading this PH Heroes.
Personally, I like the earlier 2002 to 2004 with the BMW M62 4.4 V8. In Java black with Tan Hide, and the basic 18" twin blade alloys.
They look just right and have a bit of elegance about them. Too many have been badgered with silly chrome bits and 20"+ alloy wheels which does the car no favours. So a clean and untouched example is always pleasant to these eyes.
Would love a last of the line 5.0 V8 supercharged model, in the same colour combo as the one in the article.
Dunno why you'd want a BMW-engined one when the Jag 4.4 is considerably more reliable, along with everything else they updated.Personally, I like the earlier 2002 to 2004 with the BMW M62 4.4 V8. In Java black with Tan Hide, and the basic 18" twin blade alloys.
They look just right and have a bit of elegance about them. Too many have been badgered with silly chrome bits and 20"+ alloy wheels which does the car no favours. So a clean and untouched example is always pleasant to these eyes.
Would love a last of the line 5.0 V8 supercharged model, in the same colour combo as the one in the article.
I am sorry to be negative, but could you do me a massive favour and seriously SHUT UP about these cars, stop recommending people buy one, and whilst you are at it, delete this article !!
I suppose being this rude to the author of such a mild article warrants an explanation, and this explanation will show the problem.
I had one of these, almost in that livery (Burr Walnut not the lighter colour wood) and I adored it. It had been in the family from new and for reasons not related to the car I decided to sell it and use the money to do something else that I thought would be beneficial. (It turned out not to be.)
I still had a P38 and two classics but I have regretted the sale of the L322 every day since. I have now spent more than three years on and off looking for it everywhere, trying to find the current owner and asking him to sell it back to me when he is done with it; even going so far as to run adverts. I have invested so much time in this project and you banging on about how good these are, simply drives the value up further than they already are thanks to that wannabe farmer in the Cotswolds.
If the current custodian of what I still regard as my car sees articles like yours or God forbid watches that man down on the farm, he might just think about keeping it for another few years! If you could get on board with my selfish, self centered hunt for my car, I would be most grateful. Please, delete this great and enjoyable article and post something extremely negative that might encourage my car to makes its way back to me....
All joking apart, brilliant article, though if you see my car out there, let me know, and do NOT buy it for yourself, your brother or anyone else. Its mine RIGHT? !
I suppose being this rude to the author of such a mild article warrants an explanation, and this explanation will show the problem.
I had one of these, almost in that livery (Burr Walnut not the lighter colour wood) and I adored it. It had been in the family from new and for reasons not related to the car I decided to sell it and use the money to do something else that I thought would be beneficial. (It turned out not to be.)
I still had a P38 and two classics but I have regretted the sale of the L322 every day since. I have now spent more than three years on and off looking for it everywhere, trying to find the current owner and asking him to sell it back to me when he is done with it; even going so far as to run adverts. I have invested so much time in this project and you banging on about how good these are, simply drives the value up further than they already are thanks to that wannabe farmer in the Cotswolds.
If the current custodian of what I still regard as my car sees articles like yours or God forbid watches that man down on the farm, he might just think about keeping it for another few years! If you could get on board with my selfish, self centered hunt for my car, I would be most grateful. Please, delete this great and enjoyable article and post something extremely negative that might encourage my car to makes its way back to me....
All joking apart, brilliant article, though if you see my car out there, let me know, and do NOT buy it for yourself, your brother or anyone else. Its mine RIGHT? !
ChocolateFrog said:
I can't think of a car I desire to own less based purely on image.
RRS are definitely marmite but again a standard non-Autobiography model in a decent colour without tints can be a nice thing. They do like to rust though
mat205125 said:
So, not body off for turbos, but it is engine out???
No it can be done in-situ, but it's an involved job to do the left-hand turbo as it's obscured by the front diff. The right hand turbo you could do without too much bother.Sometimes if you've got the gear it's easier to pull the engine and do them both on the stand without faffing
I'm sure PH are stalking me. Every single time I decide on my next car they go and release a PH Heroes article and alert the masses. They're like the kid in class who reminds the teacher they've not given out homework yet.
Green 4.4 Westminster for me please. As everyone else seems to want too.
Green 4.4 Westminster for me please. As everyone else seems to want too.
Krikkit said:
pSyCoSiS said:
Love these and always keep an eye out for a bargain. Enjoyed reading this PH Heroes.
Personally, I like the earlier 2002 to 2004 with the BMW M62 4.4 V8. In Java black with Tan Hide, and the basic 18" twin blade alloys.
They look just right and have a bit of elegance about them. Too many have been badgered with silly chrome bits and 20"+ alloy wheels which does the car no favours. So a clean and untouched example is always pleasant to these eyes.
Would love a last of the line 5.0 V8 supercharged model, in the same colour combo as the one in the article.
Dunno why you'd want a BMW-engined one when the Jag 4.4 is considerably more reliable, along with everything else they updated.Personally, I like the earlier 2002 to 2004 with the BMW M62 4.4 V8. In Java black with Tan Hide, and the basic 18" twin blade alloys.
They look just right and have a bit of elegance about them. Too many have been badgered with silly chrome bits and 20"+ alloy wheels which does the car no favours. So a clean and untouched example is always pleasant to these eyes.
Would love a last of the line 5.0 V8 supercharged model, in the same colour combo as the one in the article.
Speed addicted said:
Krikkit said:
pSyCoSiS said:
Love these and always keep an eye out for a bargain. Enjoyed reading this PH Heroes.
Personally, I like the earlier 2002 to 2004 with the BMW M62 4.4 V8. In Java black with Tan Hide, and the basic 18" twin blade alloys.
They look just right and have a bit of elegance about them. Too many have been badgered with silly chrome bits and 20"+ alloy wheels which does the car no favours. So a clean and untouched example is always pleasant to these eyes.
Would love a last of the line 5.0 V8 supercharged model, in the same colour combo as the one in the article.
Dunno why you'd want a BMW-engined one when the Jag 4.4 is considerably more reliable, along with everything else they updated.Personally, I like the earlier 2002 to 2004 with the BMW M62 4.4 V8. In Java black with Tan Hide, and the basic 18" twin blade alloys.
They look just right and have a bit of elegance about them. Too many have been badgered with silly chrome bits and 20"+ alloy wheels which does the car no favours. So a clean and untouched example is always pleasant to these eyes.
Would love a last of the line 5.0 V8 supercharged model, in the same colour combo as the one in the article.
Speed addicted said:
I had the same BMW 4.4 in a 6 series, it’s really not a good engine if you like reliability!
This is incorrect, in the L322 it was the older M62 unit which had some issues but nothing major. In the 6 series there was the later N62 which has many more well known issues, e.g. with valve stem seals etc. I had one of these back in 2014, was a great car, massively comfy. At the time my home and office were 100 miles apart, and it did a great job of getting me between the two when needed. I may regret saying this, but I’m currently on Range Rover number 5 (I think) and I’ve never had any great issues with them, my local dealer is 3 miles away and has always been fantastic. The only really odd fault on my L322 was that fairly consistently, but only in the early morning at one point one a particular piece of road (in rural Northumberland) it’d give a ‘water in the fuel’ warning. Never ever gave this warning anywhere else, but quite regularly at that exact location in the AM. I’d always ignore it and it was never an issue, can only think something external to the car was causing it in that place.
lukas_ said:
Speed addicted said:
I had the same BMW 4.4 in a 6 series, it’s really not a good engine if you like reliability!
This is incorrect, in the L322 it was the older M62 unit which had some issues but nothing major. In the 6 series there was the later N62 which has many more well known issues, e.g. with valve stem seals etc. I ran a late 3.6 (2010) it the longest I ever kept a car only going in 2015 when I returned to the UK. Only problem is 5 years was a flat battery when the car was left in very cold conditions. My wife called it a house on wheels and was great when we travelled back and forth to the UK. It was ideal for the mountains on winter rubber and made my adopt a relaxed driving style. Brilliant car.
p1stonhead said:
Problem with my L322 is, it’s worth about £5-7k at best. It’s 2007 TDV8 3.6 115k miles. I’ve put about £4k into it having bought for like £10k 2 years ago!
I love it (and hate it sometimes) but what could I replace it with at that money?
Another 322? A VW Up?!
A 405 is a different price point and I prefer the looks of the 322.
So I’m basically stuck with it FOREVER no matter what it costs to repair.
My turbos were ‘done’ before I bought it but no records so who knows if they actually were.
If they go again, I’ll probably just pay it.
My wife makes fun of me all the time about it.
This sums it up perfectly in terms of niggles and stuff (never actually ‘broken down’;
My current broken list;
Rear wiper
Reversing camera
Sat nav (who cares)
Driver heated seat (cooling works)
This could have been written by me. Almost. I picked up our 4.2SC ten years ago for £17k and at 70k miles now it’s maybe worth £5-6k. I sometimes covet an L405 SC but it would be a huge chunk of money to upgrade. Whereas this thing is serene and ticks my boxes 90% of the time. I fairly regularly do a 550 mile round trip in a day and it’s bloody great for that. I love it (and hate it sometimes) but what could I replace it with at that money?
Another 322? A VW Up?!
A 405 is a different price point and I prefer the looks of the 322.
So I’m basically stuck with it FOREVER no matter what it costs to repair.
My turbos were ‘done’ before I bought it but no records so who knows if they actually were.
If they go again, I’ll probably just pay it.
My wife makes fun of me all the time about it.
This sums it up perfectly in terms of niggles and stuff (never actually ‘broken down’;
My current broken list;
Rear wiper
Reversing camera
Sat nav (who cares)
Driver heated seat (cooling works)
Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 23 February 13:01
Things that could be better: the Sat nav - I’m thinking about adding an after market Carplay/Android module; fuel consumption - 18mpg long term was a wee bit uncomfortable when fuel was £1.80/l and it was close to £200 to brim it from fumes.
On those issues you have
- the reversing camera is a DIY replacement and upgrade - done that one. Www.powerfuluk.com does them.
- the Sat nav may be a dead GPS aerial. If you find it and replace it, new ones are cheap and on eBay.
- the rear wiper on our works but the nozzle gets gummed up very easily. It’s not difficult to take it all to bits to investigate.
Had a 2008 Vogue when I was living in New Zealand and drove the whole Country in it North and South Islands top to the bottom including one of the World's most dangerous roads Skippers Canyon just outside Queenstown all trouble free much to the annoyance of my Kiwi mates especially as the year before I did the same trip in a Classic Mini Cooper 1275.
Now living in France and would love another.
Now living in France and would love another.
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