RE: 2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5 N | UK Review
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cerb4.5lee said:
evojam said:
Never thought I'd see the day a 'hot hatch' that gets to 100mph in 6.9 seconds and smash through 1/4 mile in 11.1 seconds,makes the latest Golf R look positively pedestrian!
The performance is mega for sure. 
We've got a model 3, have had 2 decent test drives, this thing blows a tesla away!!
Its true what someone else said, its like a Jekyll and hyde car, if your in the mood it comes alive, reminded me of a mates Yaris GR but way quicker. It shrinks around you, on A and B roads it's very impressive and not about just 0-60 like every other performance EV.
I need an EV as its a company car and don't need massive range so for me its a no brainer!
Its true what someone else said, its like a Jekyll and hyde car, if your in the mood it comes alive, reminded me of a mates Yaris GR but way quicker. It shrinks around you, on A and B roads it's very impressive and not about just 0-60 like every other performance EV.
I need an EV as its a company car and don't need massive range so for me its a no brainer!
Legacywr said:
Angelo1985 said:
I’m sorry guys, but you are all so funny 
This is a car with 650 hp. Aaaand an EV, but still with 650 hp. And you complain about the range.
Never seen anyone complaining about the abysmal fuel consumption of, say, a TVR or a Porsche or a Mercedes with similar power.
Popcorns ready
It’s not the cost of range, it’s the restriction. This is a car with 650 hp. Aaaand an EV, but still with 650 hp. And you complain about the range.
Never seen anyone complaining about the abysmal fuel consumption of, say, a TVR or a Porsche or a Mercedes with similar power.
Popcorns ready
....the restriction is in the minds of those who don't drive an EV ;-)
Angelo1985 said:
Legacywr said:
It’s not the cost of range, it’s the restriction.
Restriction?Do you think the range of a 600 hp sportscar with a tank of, say, about 70 L would give much more range?
I think people keep finding reasons to hate EV.
Just to add, I love electric, I currently drive an eTransit daily, it’s great.
bmf said:
We've got a model 3, have had 2 decent test drives, this thing blows a tesla away!!
Its true what someone else said, its like a Jekyll and hyde car, if your in the mood it comes alive, reminded me of a mates Yaris GR but way quicker. It shrinks around you, on A and B roads it's very impressive and not about just 0-60 like every other performance EV.
I need an EV as its a company car and don't need massive range so for me its a no brainer!
Sounds like we're in a similar boat; salary sacrifice scheme makes this much more appealing as an all in one cost for the vehicle (besides charging) and range isn't a massive issue for me. Plus the performance is pretty mad; sensible part of my brain realises this is way too much car really, but the other part of my brain is much louder lolIts true what someone else said, its like a Jekyll and hyde car, if your in the mood it comes alive, reminded me of a mates Yaris GR but way quicker. It shrinks around you, on A and B roads it's very impressive and not about just 0-60 like every other performance EV.
I need an EV as its a company car and don't need massive range so for me its a no brainer!
You're right about the feeling that it shrinks around you, definitely noticed that on the test drive. Felt much smaller on the move!
tr3a said:
ITP said:
Is it still the case that it is recommended that it’s best for battery health to only charge between 10-80%?
As usual, there's a bit more nuance to these things.The main reason when out and about to only go to 80 being it takes as long going from 80-100 as it does from 10-80.
evojam said:
Never thought I'd see the day a 'hot hatch' that gets to 100mph in 6.9 seconds and smash through 1/4 mile in 11.1 seconds,makes the latest Golf R look positively pedestrian!
If you want to see how fast it is against GT3's, STO's and 812 Superfasts...https://youtu.be/PTR777QhkGY?feature=shared
A real eye opener!
plfrench said:
Not really fair comparing it to a Golf R, M3, RS4 etc it kept a Huracan STO honest on the standing quarter. Real world not a lot would touch this on British roads.
Probally not but there's no doubting its speed,the fact that it's 12.1 seconds quicker to 150mph is the real teller though.Edited by evojam on Thursday 9th May 19:42
Julian Scott said:
bigyoungdave said:
Badgerr said:
Similar range to a petrol i30 N then! What people need to understand is that when you get in an EV, the range suggested is a Guess-o-meter. Once the car works out your style of driving, the GOM will become more accurate. These test cars have been thrashed by the journos so predicted range will always be lower than real time ownership. This learnt from owning my own EV.
However, in your petrol i30N you can add another 200 miles of range in 2 minutes at thousands of outlets across the country bigyoungdave said:
Julian Scott said:
bigyoungdave said:
Badgerr said:
Similar range to a petrol i30 N then! What people need to understand is that when you get in an EV, the range suggested is a Guess-o-meter. Once the car works out your style of driving, the GOM will become more accurate. These test cars have been thrashed by the journos so predicted range will always be lower than real time ownership. This learnt from owning my own EV.
However, in your petrol i30N you can add another 200 miles of range in 2 minutes at thousands of outlets across the country Plenty of videos showing people putting in 100's of miles a day in an EV without any real issues. Obviously a fuel pump is faster, no-one can argue that, but EV charging isn't as bad as some people think. Admittedly it seems more of a 'faff' to organise a longer trip.
I think the bigger issue is likely the availability of the charging points at a given location and if any of them are knackered, though I assume (hope) that this only ever improves over time, plus the charging apps tend to be pretty up to date on availability and if some points are out of action.
Having said all that, I don't own an EV (yet) so just going by what some randoms on YouTube are showing me on road trip vids lol
can't remember said:
The Ioniq 5 really is very colour sensitive. In red-orange it's hideous.
Agreed. Blu-tac blue all the way, for me.I like it and I have no issue with the idea of a performance related EV hatch...... it's on the big size for a hatchback though, IMO. Compare and contrast with a Macan:
Hyundai - 4,635-4,715 mm L x 1,890-1,940 mm W x 1,585-1,605 mm H
Porsche - 4,726-4,784 mm L x 1,922-1,938 mm W x 1,596-1,622 mm H
CountyAFC said:
evojam said:
Never thought I'd see the day a 'hot hatch' that gets to 100mph in 6.9 seconds and smash through 1/4 mile in 11.1 seconds,makes the latest Golf R look positively pedestrian!
If you want to see how fast it is against GT3's, STO's and 812 Superfasts...https://youtu.be/PTR777QhkGY?feature=shared
A real eye opener!
I take it all back - where do I sign…??!!
A depreciated used one - at say 1 year old, that’s an ICBM on the cheap - for sure…
In the video - it’s the consistency of the runs - mash accelerator - release brake, kapow…!! I could watch that all day…
Kudos.
Julian Scott said:
Lee is a bit of a grumpy old man when it comes to EVs, not a totally unique position on here.
But anyone who saw a Nio EP9, a Pininfarina Battista, a Maserati MC20 Folgore, a Rolls-Royce Spectre or an Alfa 33 Stradale and walked straight past without even giving a second glance is lying to themselves, not in any way a car fan or so stubborn they make a politician seems transparent, IMO.
Giving a second glance, for sure. Good design is good design and can be appreciated.But anyone who saw a Nio EP9, a Pininfarina Battista, a Maserati MC20 Folgore, a Rolls-Royce Spectre or an Alfa 33 Stradale and walked straight past without even giving a second glance is lying to themselves, not in any way a car fan or so stubborn they make a politician seems transparent, IMO.
Giving a second thought, nope. Soulless. I don’t lust after any of them. To be frank i don’t lust after any modern turboed supercar either.
markcoopers said:
Julian Scott said:
Lee is a bit of a grumpy old man when it comes to EVs, not a totally unique position on here.
But anyone who saw a Nio EP9, a Pininfarina Battista, a Maserati MC20 Folgore, a Rolls-Royce Spectre or an Alfa 33 Stradale and walked straight past without even giving a second glance is lying to themselves, not in any way a car fan or so stubborn they make a politician seems transparent, IMO.
Giving a second glance, for sure. Good design is good design and can be appreciated.But anyone who saw a Nio EP9, a Pininfarina Battista, a Maserati MC20 Folgore, a Rolls-Royce Spectre or an Alfa 33 Stradale and walked straight past without even giving a second glance is lying to themselves, not in any way a car fan or so stubborn they make a politician seems transparent, IMO.
Giving a second thought, nope. Soulless. I don’t lust after any of them. To be frank i don’t lust after any modern turboed supercar either.
For the vast majority of people who have a passing interest in cars, lusting after a car for most people has more to do with looks and design than what powers it, hence posters on walls of Lambo's etc; you can't hear a poster on a wall but you sure can lust after what's on it!
bigyoungdave said:
But 300 to 400 miles is a realistic amount a lot of people might want to do in a day, without an overnight stop.
Plug it in at/near your appointment/visit. During your drive break (I surely hope you take at least a short break when doing 200 miles in a single trip) or during breakfast/lunch/diner that you're consuming away from home. Many options. It just takes a different way of thinking. And a government that takes a leading role in motivating companies to have enough charging points if it doesn't come naturally. Where I live that really is not an issue. The closest charging point (a 11kwh charger) is shared among around 6 cars. 2 outputs on that thing. All cars owned by people that drive them daily. Seldom I see the charger ports both being used. So seldom you'd have to walk outside later that day to plug it in when it's free. I reckon it could easily be used by 10-15 cars. Maybe one would choose to plug it in with 40% left cause it would be free at that moment. Again, just requires a change in the way you think of filling up your energy storage, battery in this case.But, I usually look for the cheapest petrol station for my MX5 which costs time and effort to get there in a way that doesn't require too much time or extra miles. That worry would be gone with an electric car. And if you have your own parking spot it's a total non-issue.
Edited by _ppan on Thursday 9th May 21:26
sidesauce said:
markcoopers said:
Julian Scott said:
Lee is a bit of a grumpy old man when it comes to EVs, not a totally unique position on here.
But anyone who saw a Nio EP9, a Pininfarina Battista, a Maserati MC20 Folgore, a Rolls-Royce Spectre or an Alfa 33 Stradale and walked straight past without even giving a second glance is lying to themselves, not in any way a car fan or so stubborn they make a politician seems transparent, IMO.
Giving a second glance, for sure. Good design is good design and can be appreciated.But anyone who saw a Nio EP9, a Pininfarina Battista, a Maserati MC20 Folgore, a Rolls-Royce Spectre or an Alfa 33 Stradale and walked straight past without even giving a second glance is lying to themselves, not in any way a car fan or so stubborn they make a politician seems transparent, IMO.
Giving a second thought, nope. Soulless. I don’t lust after any of them. To be frank i don’t lust after any modern turboed supercar either.
For the vast majority of people who have a passing interest in cars, lusting after a car for most people has more to do with looks and design than what powers it, hence posters on walls of Lambo's etc; you can't hear a poster on a wall but you sure can lust after what's on it!
I had the Countach on my wall as a youngster, and don't get me wrong I loved the way it looked, but its big engine and the noise it made played a massive part for me as well though.
I blame my dad for having a 1979 5.0 V8 Mustang back in 1980 when I was 7 years old though, because ever since then...the noise an engine/exhaust makes has been a huge priority for me for definite.
I guess if he'd had a car with only a 4 cylinder 1.3 engine for example, then things would probably been a lot different for me I think. Imagine growing up now and your dad having a Tesla Model 3 for example...you'd be lower than a dogs paw I reckon(well I would be anyway).
plfrench said:
cerb4.5lee said:
evojam said:
Never thought I'd see the day a 'hot hatch' that gets to 100mph in 6.9 seconds and smash through 1/4 mile in 11.1 seconds,makes the latest Golf R look positively pedestrian!
The performance is mega for sure. Absolutely mental performance being kind of devalued which will put a higher number of very big, very heavy and largely unstoppable cars on the roads into the hands of people not always used to that level of performance.
I get it that sounds a bit namby pamby but previously to get anything close to this, you needed a hypercar, which you never actually see, but now there are numerous EVs, you can buy a 430 bhp MG for 25 grand or not much more and over time there will be more and more very fast EVs that will hit sixty in the three second range.
I know most people dont use the performance all the time, and in some cases ever, but thinking more like if it goes wrong, like that VW that got parked onto an Aston Martin, and that was a fairly mundane VW crossover thing, quadruple the power, and an extra ton of weight, would that have been worse, quite possibly. Thats was near where I live, and there was a similar incident in a supermarket car park where someone flattened the parking ticket machine.
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