Ask a car salesman anything...anything at all.

Ask a car salesman anything...anything at all.

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papa3

1,420 posts

189 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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HumanDoing said:
What's the most deluded customer offer you've ever had to deal with, e.g. someone coming in thinking they can get in a BMW M4 for £100 a month with no deposit or something like that and do you get training on how to tactfully steer them on to something they might actually be able to afford?
We don't see it as you describe but do get people in with unrealistic financial expectations. A few grand of negative equity, no deposit and want to reduce their monthly payment whilst buying a more expensive car.

Normally the result of having continually rolled one finance deal into another repeatedly.

The Mad Monk

10,493 posts

119 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Burwood said:
Arrived in an expensive car, asked what I did for a living. Annoyed me.
Don't worry about it.

Just say 'I am a company director'*.

What line of work do you do, sir?

Just say 'Oh, this and that'.

Note * other answers are available.

TA14

12,722 posts

260 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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The Mad Monk said:
Just say 'I am a powerfully built company director'*.
Fixed that for you smile

PositronicRay

27,130 posts

185 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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The Mad Monk said:
Burwood said:
Arrived in an expensive car, asked what I did for a living. Annoyed me.
Don't worry about it.

Just say 'I am a company director'*.

What line of work do you do, sir?

Just say 'Oh, this and that'.

Note * other answers are available.
Insecure?

daemon

35,946 posts

199 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Have you ever seen any evidence that dealers stockpile cars to artificially keep used car prices high?

The Mad Monk

10,493 posts

119 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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PositronicRay said:
The Mad Monk said:
Burwood said:
Arrived in an expensive car, asked what I did for a living. Annoyed me.
Don't worry about it.

Just say 'I am a company director'*.

What line of work do you do, sir?

Just say 'Oh, this and that'.

Note * other answers are available.
Insecure?
OK then.

Just say 'I work on the dust cart'.

HTP99

22,706 posts

142 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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daemon said:
Have you ever seen any evidence that dealers stockpile cars to artificially keep used car prices high?
No, why would they have many £millions all tied up in stock to just let it sit there in the vain hope it might increase in value?

Or are you just being facetious as I seem to recall a thread from a good few months ago where something along those lines had been mentioned, probably by someone else and not you?

papa3

1,420 posts

189 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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daemon said:
Have you ever seen any evidence that dealers stockpile cars to artificially keep used car prices high?
Nope.

Stockturn is one of the most important measures of the used car operation. In general terms the faster you can move them on, the more profitable you will be.



Richard-390a0

2,309 posts

93 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Blakewater said:
stiII_I_undomyseatbelts said:
TheLordJohn said:
Same as being judged by people who work for almost minimum wage in a 'high end' fashion/jewellery etc store.
Always cracks me up this.
I think it's paranoia to believe you're being judged. I've been asked this question and it's never occurred to me that I am. I think it's just part of a fairly standard script of seeming to be taking an interest in getting to know you. The salesman probably doesn't care but has to make you think he does.
I honestly don't get why people are so precious about this, it's much the same as a hairdresser asking 'have you been on holiday anywhere nice?', surely asking 'what do you do for a living' is pretty much one of the first questions you ask someone whether you're selling them a car or talking to someone you've not met before at a wedding / dinner party etc to get the conversation flowing?.
Reading some of these threads it makes me glad I don't have the misfortune of sellling cars for a living. It's damned if you do approach a customer & damned if you don't!!.

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Yes, but these alpha male director types who are so flush with business they can't stop earning for a single moment don't want engagement. They want your cheapest price but without having to go through any of the process to get that deal. Actually if they were that successful their procurement manager would be doing it for them.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 30th October 10:52

Fastchas

2,659 posts

123 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Would you ever accept a mint/low mileage Freelander MkI as p/exchange AND put it on your forecourt? biggrin

stiII_I_undomyseatbelts

210 posts

80 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Richard-390a0 said:
I honestly don't get why people are so precious about this, it's much the same as a hairdresser asking 'have you been on holiday anywhere nice?'
I actually tip more if my hairdresser doesn't ask any of these stupid irrelevant questions. Or if he doesn't speak at all for that matter.

PositronicRay

27,130 posts

185 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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The Mad Monk said:
PositronicRay said:
The Mad Monk said:
Burwood said:
Arrived in an expensive car, asked what I did for a living. Annoyed me.
Don't worry about it.

Just say 'I am a company director'*.

What line of work do you do, sir?

Just say 'Oh, this and that'.

Note * other answers are available.
Insecure?
OK then.

Just say 'I work on the dust cart'.
No not you, the bloke who thinks he's being judged.

I remember being taken out to dinner by a girlfriends dad, a farmer who'd made a few bob selling a couple of fields to a developer. He spent the entire dinner complaining (to us) about how he could "buy and sell" the waiting staff and how "they all look down their noses at me"

Nothing of the sort of course they we're just being pleasant and ever so slightly formal, but then it was an expensive place.

daemon

35,946 posts

199 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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HTP99 said:
daemon said:
Have you ever seen any evidence that dealers stockpile cars to artificially keep used car prices high?
No, why would they have many £millions all tied up in stock to just let it sit there in the vain hope it might increase in value?

Or are you just being facetious as I seem to recall a thread from a good few months ago where something along those lines had been mentioned, probably by someone else and not you?
Yes, well spotted. It comes up on various occasions that dealers do this to skew the market price

It came up again on another thread today

Was just getting confirmation from current motor traders / salesmen

daemon

35,946 posts

199 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Blakewater said:
I understand some factories do have accessory bays for some accessories to be fitted, though I've seen Vauxhalls being delivered to dealers with those plain black five spoke wheels instead of proper wheels.
That IS the actual wheel. Theres a fitted wheel trim that goes over it which makes them look like an alloy wheel on the base models. The wheel trims will be in the boot, fitted at PDI.

The technical term for them is structure wheels.

Edited by daemon on Monday 30th October 12:54

HTP99

22,706 posts

142 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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daemon said:
Blakewater said:
I understand some factories do have accessory bays for some accessories to be fitted, though I've seen Vauxhalls being delivered to dealers with those plain black five spoke wheels instead of proper wheels.
That IS the actual wheel. Theres a fitted wheel trim that goes over it which makes them look like an alloy wheel on the base models. The wheel trims will be in the boot, fitted at PDI
"Structure" wheels.

daemon

35,946 posts

199 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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HTP99 said:
daemon said:
Blakewater said:
I understand some factories do have accessory bays for some accessories to be fitted, though I've seen Vauxhalls being delivered to dealers with those plain black five spoke wheels instead of proper wheels.
That IS the actual wheel. Theres a fitted wheel trim that goes over it which makes them look like an alloy wheel on the base models. The wheel trims will be in the boot, fitted at PDI
"Structure" wheels.
Yes, had just updated my post at the same minute you posted this. smile

Example....




techguyone

3,137 posts

144 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Wow I never even knew they made steelies in those kind of shapes, and with the covers on you would be fooled they were alloys at a casual glance, that's more devious than when they started painting steelies black and putting alloy type covers over the top.

gl20

1,124 posts

151 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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techguyone said:
Wow I never even knew they made steelies in those kind of shapes, and with the covers on you would be fooled they were alloys at a casual glance, that's more devious than when they started painting steelies black and putting alloy type covers over the top.
Yep, this has got me paranoid now. First thing I'm going to do when I get back to the station car park is try to prise the surface off my alloy wheels to see if there's a steel one lurking behind it!

Butter Face

30,522 posts

162 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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The Dacia Stepway uses the same type of shaped steel wheel.
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