RE: 2023 INEOS Grenadier | PH Review

[Pablo16v]

silentbrown said:

I've yet to see one in Herefordshire.

I'm starting to see them more frequently now. There's a few kicking about here in Aberdeesnhire and I spotted a couple in Dumfries & Galloway and in Perthshire while on holiday. I really like the look of them.

[RacerMike]

DonkeyApple said:

Bill said:

jeremy996 said:

Have you driven one? I love mine, but I'd suggest it is a bit hair-shirt for hipsters. Hipsters buy Defenders, easier to live with day to day while in warranty.

I've barely seen one, despite living in rural Dorset. Glad you like yours.

I don't think a hipster would drive any 4x4 to be fair ( And a Defender is far too common and "smug married"). It was more the way it uses old tech to do things less well while costing more.

A hipster is going to struggle to climb into a big 4x4 due to the restrictive nature of wearing their mum's trousers.

You're already out of touch mate. Hipsters now wear baggy rolled up 90s jeans. Skinny ones are the mark of an early Millennial

[Snow and Rocks]

Pablo16v said:

I'm starting to see them more frequently now. There's a few kicking about here in Aberdeesnhire and I spotted a couple in Dumfries & Galloway and in Perthshire while on holiday. I really like the look of them.

Yep, seeing quite a few around Aberdeenshire now, often driven by youngish gamekeeper type guys so most likely from local estates.

[Silvanus]

I'm surprised people have seen so many, I spend a lot of time on estates/farms/forestry and have only seen 2 in the south east. Ineos have only sold 738 this year, would I be right in thinking there a geographical hotspots for these, possibly close to the dealerships?

[braddo]

I've seen about 4 in various parts of SW London.
I think one of them has replaced a 20 year-old Amazon that lives locally.

[DonkeyApple]

RacerMike said:

You're already out of touch mate. Hipsters now wear baggy rolled up 90s jeans. Skinny ones are the mark of an early Millennial

Out of touch!!! You've just informed me that I'm a cutting edge hipster!!! And ruined my day.

[Honeywell]

silentbrown said:

I've yet to see one in Herefordshire.

There is a cream one and a grey one in Bromyard frequently.

Plus there will be two on my Herefordshire shoot this winter.

[DonkeyApple]

Silvanus said:

I'm surprised people have seen so many, I spend a lot of time on estates/farms/forestry and have only seen 2 in the south east. Ineos have only sold 738 this year, would I be right in thinking there a geographical hotspots for these, possibly close to the dealerships?

You're looking in the wrong places though.

[Silvanus]

DonkeyApple said:

Silvanus said:

I'm surprised people have seen so many, I spend a lot of time on estates/farms/forestry and have only seen 2 in the south east. Ineos have only sold 738 this year, would I be right in thinking there a geographical hotspots for these, possibly close to the dealerships?

You're looking in the wrong places though.

Maybe, but I'm looking in the places this vehicle was supposedly designed for. Either way, Ssangyong have sold more pickups this year than Ineos have sold Grenadiers.

[DonkeyApple]

Silvanus said:

DonkeyApple said:

Silvanus said:

I'm surprised people have seen so many, I spend a lot of time on estates/farms/forestry and have only seen 2 in the south east. Ineos have only sold 738 this year, would I be right in thinking there a geographical hotspots for these, possibly close to the dealerships?

You're looking in the wrong places though.

Maybe, but I'm looking in the places this vehicle was supposedly designed for. Either way, Ssangyong have sold more pickups this year than Ineos have sold Grenadiers.

It was designed for suburban driveways, like Belstaff jackets and every other non essential, premium product. The 'commercial' sort of image is PR for the U.K. market where it's just a toy for us.

[Silvanus]

DonkeyApple said:

Silvanus said:

DonkeyApple said:

Silvanus said:

I'm surprised people have seen so many, I spend a lot of time on estates/farms/forestry and have only seen 2 in the south east. Ineos have only sold 738 this year, would I be right in thinking there a geographical hotspots for these, possibly close to the dealerships?

You're looking in the wrong places though.

Maybe, but I'm looking in the places this vehicle was supposedly designed for. Either way, Ssangyong have sold more pickups this year than Ineos have sold Grenadiers.

It was designed for suburban driveways, like Belstaff jackets and every other non essential, premium product. The 'commercial' sort of image is PR for the U.K. market where it's just a toy for us.

Oh I agree with agree with who will buy it and how they will be used. However, it was definitely designed to be able to be a fully functioning work horse, even if very few will be used that way. I personally think they could have done a far mor stylish and functional vehicle that could tackle the rough stuff and Waitrose in equal measures. Although I guess they would have ended up with pretty much the new Defender.

[Snow and Rocks]

Silvanus said:

I'm surprised people have seen so many, I spend a lot of time on estates/farms/forestry and have only seen 2 in the south east. Ineos have only sold 738 this year, would I be right in thinking there a geographical hotspots for these, possibly close to the dealerships?

Definitely not close to a dealership here - nearest at the moment is ~150 miles away in Edinburgh. Although, oddly, there's no Toyota dealer in Aberdeen at the moment either and it feels like every second vehicle I pass on the road is a Hilux.

[Silvanus]

Snow and Rocks said:

Silvanus said:

I'm surprised people have seen so many, I spend a lot of time on estates/farms/forestry and have only seen 2 in the south east. Ineos have only sold 738 this year, would I be right in thinking there a geographical hotspots for these, possibly close to the dealerships?

Definitely not close to a dealership here - nearest at the moment is ~150 miles away in Edinburgh. Although, oddly, there's no Toyota dealer in Aberdeen at the moment either and it feels like every second vehicle I pass on the road is a Hilux.

That is close isn't it I think there is definitely a geographical pattern to certain vehicles, vehicle type and brands.

[DonkeyApple]

Silvanus said:

Oh I agree with agree with who will buy it and how they will be used. However, it was definitely designed to be able to be a fully functioning work horse, even if very few will be used that way. I personally think they could have done a far mor stylish and functional vehicle that could tackle the rough stuff and Waitrose in equal measures. Although I guess they would have ended up with pretty much the new Defender.

Yup but as a workhorse, something a business buys for its lower paid staff to use it's a complete miss due to being substantially more expensive than pickups and substantially less tax efficient.

A few estate cars where the projected image trumps the cost, a few very specialist commercial applications where a pickup genuinely can't do the job and a Unimog is overkill.

For the U.K. it was always about suburban sales, hence the editions on offer aiming at lifestyle choices.

[1690cc]

silentbrown said:

I've yet to see one in Herefordshire.

There are at least two in Hereford as I did a double take when I saw them as initially I registered them as G Wagons in my inattentive mind. Good looking things in a meccano sort of way imo. Great respect to those who have them. I would love one and it would really suit my usage but I don't have the money to afford one.

[Plyphon]

I've seen a number of them as I drive in and out of London along the A40/M40.

Seen a few around Hampshire way also.

[silentbrown]

Updating this to include Sept. figures.

Ineos UK Regs: YTD 738

Month	Registrations
March	0
April	94
May	182
June	152
July	93
August	62
September	155

[clive_candy]

Spotted this thread on General Gassing and thought I'd mention having seen one yesterday in the wild and was amused to find the past couple of pages of comments relate to their apparent rarity. All the more chuffed now.

[clive_candy]

Oh, Cheshire by the way.

[alscar]

Only seen one thus far - near Bicester Heritage - all black with the red chassis option - looked like a love child of the G wagon and Classic Defender BUT in fairness looked ok !