Will Coronavirus hit used car prices?

Will Coronavirus hit used car prices?

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av185

18,666 posts

129 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
growlerowl said:
I deliberately chose a sector that will be one of the last to go under and deliberately lived a modest lifestyle for a decade and a half because I always suspected this economy was a debt-fuelled house of cards. Being sensible/boring has put me in a very strong position to exploit falling asset values now and should the opportunity present itself I fully intend to fill my boots, and won't feel a shred of guilt for doing so.

You should actually be grateful for sensible folk because pretty soon we'll be the only ones still able to spend money and thereby keep the economy on life support whilst all the feckless YOLO clowns are forced to miserably deleverage themselves.
You sound like me.

Me and my wife have been saving hard for 5-10 years now. We are in our late 30’s.

Our mortgages are paid off, our newish daily drivers are paid for, we don’t owe anyone a penny, our monthly bills are tiny, and have significant savings.

I sold my business and all my classic Porsches 1-2 years ago while things were going good, because quite frankly I was frightened of what would happen economically after Brexit. I was convinced it would be a disaster, and decided to sell things before it happened.

My wife has a good senior job in a sturdy industry, and I too moved myself into a sector that seems constantly required (housing/government), still self employed but with zero overheads apart from my laptop.

We could have been living the high life and ‘spending it like water’ for the last 10 years, like everyone else seems to have been doing, and have a massive mortgage, and a pair of financed full fat Range Rovers on the drive.

But we railed against all that, convinced it was not a financially prudent way to behave. We could sometimes run though the ‘what if something happened and we were both out of work’ scenario in our heads.

I absolutely do not want to see anyone out of work, or the economy damaged whatsoever, because of this nightmare, but if that happens, like Growlerowl I will absolutely be helping myself to a couple of repossessed homes to rent out and a Ferrari that someone cannot shift but desperately needs to sell.
Very wise and not unlike myself.

I agree with all you say.

Cue those who love being outraged.

thelostboy

4,590 posts

227 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
But we railed against all that, convinced it was not a financially prudent way to behave. We could sometimes run though the ‘what if something happened and we were both out of work’ scenario in our heads.
Christ. Bet you're fun at parties. Not that you ever go to any...

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

226 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
You sound like me.

Me and my wife have been saving hard for 5-10 years now. We are in our late 30’s.

Our mortgages are paid off, our newish daily drivers are paid for, we don’t owe anyone a penny, our monthly bills are tiny, and have significant savings.

I sold my business and all my classic Porsches 1-2 years ago while things were going good, because quite frankly I was frightened of what would happen economically after Brexit. I was convinced it would be a disaster, and decided to sell things before it happened.

My wife has a good senior job in a sturdy industry, and I too moved myself into a sector that seems constantly required (housing/government), still self employed but with zero overheads apart from my laptop.

We could have been living the high life and ‘spending it like water’ for the last 10 years, like everyone else seems to have been doing, and have a massive mortgage, and a pair of financed full fat Range Rovers on the drive.

But we railed against all that, convinced it was not a financially prudent way to behave. We could sometimes run though the ‘what if something happened and we were both out of work’ scenario in our heads.

I absolutely do not want to see anyone out of work, or the economy damaged whatsoever, because of this nightmare, but if that happens, like Growlerowl I will absolutely be helping myself to a couple of repossessed homes to rent out and a Ferrari that someone cannot shift but desperately needs to sell.
I think many have been very prudent since 2008.

I ended up with over £200k of debt after 2008, from riding out a downturn in business, to closing one of mine.

Feel lucky to not have debt now.

But I won't be feeling smug seeing the world collapse around me. Because I know full well that could be the end of this life as we all know it.


Still interested to know what sector he is in.


I think after this I might well go and find something in the public sector. Everyone I know there seems to be oblivious to what is going on. That must be so nice.

av185

18,666 posts

129 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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Touring442 said:
jsf said:
Touring442 said:
More the kind of entitlement that's been bred into folk over the past 20 odd years.
I guess they are about to be re-educated.
Those with a close to the bone mortgage and two newish PCP'd Mercs/BMW's/Audis on the drive for Facebook likes, 'doing really well' in the typical 'fur coat/no knickers' fashion?
hehe

av185

18,666 posts

129 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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gizlaroc said:
I think after this I might well go and find something in the public sector. Everyone I know there seems to be oblivious to what is going on. That must be so nice.
Dont think for one minute that those jobsworths riding the public sector gravy train won't be the first to be laid off when the st hits the fan.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

226 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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av185 said:
gizlaroc said:
I think after this I might well go and find something in the public sector. Everyone I know there seems to be oblivious to what is going on. That must be so nice.
Dont think for one minute that those jobsworths riding the public sector gravy train won't be the first to be laid off when the st hits the fan.
Oh I don't.

I just think being in that bubble where you don't realise must be lovely. smile


av185

18,666 posts

129 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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gizlaroc said:
Oh I don't.

I just think being in that bubble where you don't realise must be lovely. smile
What could possibly go wrong...? biggrin:

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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av185 said:
Dont think for one minute that those jobsworths riding the public sector gravy train won't be the first to be laid off when the st hits the fan.
Working in the NHS is the golden ticket, gold plated pension, 6 month full pay sick leave and good pay if you work through the grades.
It's going to be st for the front line staff for a while, but as a career with stable income and long term benefits it's hard to beat.

TheFungle

4,081 posts

208 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
You sound like me.

Me and my wife have been saving hard for 5-10 years now. We are in our late 30’s.

Our mortgages are paid off, our newish daily drivers are paid for, we don’t owe anyone a penny, our monthly bills are tiny, and have significant savings.

I sold my business and all my classic Porsches 1-2 years ago while things were going good, because quite frankly I was frightened of what would happen economically after Brexit. I was convinced it would be a disaster, and decided to sell things before it happened.

My wife has a good senior job in a sturdy industry, and I too moved myself into a sector that seems constantly required (housing/government), still self employed but with zero overheads apart from my laptop.

We could have been living the high life and ‘spending it like water’ for the last 10 years, like everyone else seems to have been doing, and have a massive mortgage, and a pair of financed full fat Range Rovers on the drive.

But we railed against all that, convinced it was not a financially prudent way to behave. We could sometimes run though the ‘what if something happened and we were both out of work’ scenario in our heads.

I absolutely do not want to see anyone out of work, or the economy damaged whatsoever, because of this nightmare, but if that happens, like Growlerowl I will absolutely be helping myself to a couple of repossessed homes to rent out and a Ferrari that someone cannot shift but desperately needs to sell.
Fabulous!

Nothing says prudence like selling your business, off-loading you classic Porsches and your wife in a senior position.

Congratulations for doing well in life but please be under no doubt, those out there who have sensible 'debt' are in a sudden position of losing their job are not to be mocked or judged for not selling a classic car when prices were high.

G_Morto

429 posts

60 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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I work in the public sector and in my civil service department there's zero chance of being let go. Our yearly pay rise is actually going ahead as scheduled next month

ChevronB19

5,855 posts

165 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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growlerowl said:
gizlaroc said:
I just find it a bit worrying that those goading the demise of everyone else seem be completely oblivious that this could bring them down too.

The knock on effects could well take us all out.
I deliberately chose a sector that will be one of the last to go under and deliberately lived a modest lifestyle for a decade and a half because I always suspected this economy was a debt-fuelled house of cards. Being sensible/boring has put me in a very strong position to exploit falling asset values now and should the opportunity present itself I fully intend to fill my boots, and won't feel a shred of guilt for doing so.

You should actually be grateful for sensible folk because pretty soon we'll be the only ones still able to spend money and thereby keep the economy on life support whilst all the feckless YOLO clowns are forced to miserably deleverage themselves.
‘Exploit’. Says it all. Profiting through other people’s problems, many of whom have no involvement in the situation they now find themselves in. Sleep well do you?

av185

18,666 posts

129 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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Well well well it doesn't take long for the usual chip on shoulder bks to flow....

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

226 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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G_Morto said:
I work in the public sector and in my civil service department there's zero chance of being let go. Our yearly pay rise is actually going ahead as scheduled next month
See, this is what I am talking about.

While the country could be seeing millions out of work and tax hikes like we have never witnessed before, the civil service are giving pay rises.

Wonderful. Truly wonderful.



G_Morto

429 posts

60 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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gizlaroc said:
See, this is what I am talking about.

While the country could be seeing millions out of work and tax hikes like we have never witnessed before, the civil service are giving pay rises.

Wonderful. Truly wonderful.
I know right. It's also wonderful to see even the staunchest of tories putting their hands out to the Government.

Socialism saving the day.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

226 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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G_Morto said:
I know right. It's also wonderful to see even the staunchest of tories putting their hands out to the Government.

Socialism saving the day.
What department do you work for?

Is it genuinely never going to be effected by what is going on?


anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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growlerowl said:
I deliberately chose a sector that will be one of the last to go under and deliberately lived a modest lifestyle for a decade and a half because I always suspected this economy was a debt-fuelled house of cards. Being sensible/boring has put me in a very strong position to exploit falling asset values now and should the opportunity present itself I fully intend to fill my boots, and won't feel a shred of guilt for doing so.

You should actually be grateful for sensible folk because pretty soon we'll be the only ones still able to spend money and thereby keep the economy on life support whilst all the feckless YOLO clowns are forced to miserably deleverage themselves.
What made you sign up to PH today?

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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gizlaroc said:
G_Morto said:
I work in the public sector and in my civil service department there's zero chance of being let go. Our yearly pay rise is actually going ahead as scheduled next month
See, this is what I am talking about.

While the country could be seeing millions out of work and tax hikes like we have never witnessed before, the civil service are giving pay rises.

Wonderful. Truly wonderful.
Not all departments within the civil service, there are many departments with their own pay and bonus policies that are markedly different to others. There is barely a single civil service wide policy on anything. Some will be let go, be it natural wastage and posts not refilled or others offered roles elsewhere, civil servants can be retasked to support other departments, which they can refuse and take redundancy.

Plus there are civil servants doing fairly important roles right now like sorting out issues for the NHS, the Military etc

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

226 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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Just looking at some of the positions online now.

Some that are in my background of buyer look quite good.


£96k basic but if you have moved from another civil service position you will no longer be able to claim childcare. Seems a bit harsh.

A1VDY

3,575 posts

129 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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G_Morto said:
I work in the public sector and in my civil service department there's zero chance of being let go. Our yearly pay rise is actually going ahead as scheduled next month
Ha haha ha roflpmsl.
Youre completely deluded!
This is going to affect every person on this planet.
With the world going into financial meltdown you'll be the same as every other unemployed person.
Pay rise?? Wake up ffs, you obviously don't realise hard currency will be worth Jack..

g3org3y

20,704 posts

193 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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A1VDY said:
Wake up ffs, you obviously don't realise hard currency will be worth Jack..
It's all about the toilet rolls.
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