The "S**t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 5)

[Laurel Green]

UK Dash Cameras - Compilation 20 - 2020 Bad Drivers, Crashes + Close Calls.

[ScotHill]

How would you interpret the road layout/markings in this junction re cycles and vehicles and who has priority? Cyclist reckons the van should have stopped to let him turn right: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNTBOmcOTwM

[A Winner Is You]

ScotHill said:

How would you interpret the road layout/markings in this junction re cycles and vehicles and who has priority? Cyclist reckons the van should have stopped to let him turn right: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNTBOmcOTwM

There seem to be give way lines on the cycle lane as well, and no obvious signs as to who should yield.

[Laurel Green]

There were give way lines for the van, but was the cyclist indicating that he was turning right? Either way, as a cyclist would not have expected the van to stop.

[anonymous-user]

The give looks for the pedestrian crossing bit, hence GW on both cycle and road. (Sounds like a ebike)

Give way to traffic on major road

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 25th May 22:46

[Glenn63]

I interpret it as give way lines for the van to stop for the crossing and for the cyclist to stop for the crossing as the cycle lane continues on the other side. If I was the van driver I wouldn’t be expecting the cyclist on the road to suddenly use the crossing. Same with a zebra surly a cyclist wouldn’t be on the road, reach a zebra then suddenly cross it?

[breadvan]

Glenn63 said:

I interpret it as give way lines for the van to stop for the crossing and for the cyclist to stop for the crossing as the cycle lane continues on the other side. If I was the van driver I wouldn’t be expecting the cyclist on the road to suddenly use the crossing. Same with a zebra surly a cyclist wouldn’t be on the road, reach a zebra then suddenly cross it?

You’re right. This is Millbrook Road in Southampton and I know it well. The crossing is for the cycle path from each pavement, you can’t switch from a road user to a pavement user like that.

Rider is a berk.

[anonymous-user]

As more vulnerable road user anyone with common sense would wait until knowing what the van is doing. It is a case where if the bike slowed down slightly it would have been a non event.


I do worry about cyclist like this as being right can lead to serious injury.

[Muddle238]

What an utterly ridiculous piece of road layout. It's the first time I've seen something like that, I had to pause the video and study it for a while to interpret all the details. So there's a give way for vehicles, immediately before and immediately after a weird green honeycomb thing which I've never seen in the HC, plus the double-dashed give way lines in the cycle lane but without a give way triangle.. Plus an odd island thrown into the mix... Not surprised there was a conflict of interest. Whoever signed that off needs a boIIocking imo. As a non-local to that area, first impression of that "junction" is clusterfu..

[gazza285]

breadvan said:

Glenn63 said:

I interpret it as give way lines for the van to stop for the crossing and for the cyclist to stop for the crossing as the cycle lane continues on the other side. If I was the van driver I wouldn’t be expecting the cyclist on the road to suddenly use the crossing. Same with a zebra surly a cyclist wouldn’t be on the road, reach a zebra then suddenly cross it?

You’re right. This is Millbrook Road in Southampton and I know it well. The crossing is for the cycle path from each pavement, you can’t switch from a road user to a pavement user like that.

Rider is a berk.

Road layout is rediculous.

If the road has a cycle path, and there is an option to turn right at the crossing into a shared walking and cyle path, then why cannot a cyclist switch from one to the other? If he does want to switch from one to the other, then why should he not treat it as any other crossroad?

[Miserablegit]

breadvan said:

You’re right. This is Millbrook Road in Southampton and I know it well. The crossing is for the cycle path from each pavement, you can’t switch from a road user to a pavement user like that.

Rider is a berk.

+1. Rider needs to learn how to use the road. Nothing wrong with the van doing what it did.

[SmoothCriminal]

Surely if the cyclist wanted priority he should have went up on the pavement then used the cycle crossing?

This is no different to coming to a crossroads with one car wanting to turn right across the other going straight.

Cyclist is a entitled bell what do you expect

[Miserablegit]

I’d say a better comparison would be to a jogger running along the road and then darting across a pedestrian crossing.
There is a right of way for pedestrians on the crossing and drivers are expected to focus on the entry and exit points to the crossing as well as pedestrians already on the crossing. Nobody is expected to be joining the crossing at any point other than entry/exit points and it is completely selfish it expect other road users to be able to read the mind of the user in question.

[BullyB]

ScotHill said:

How would you interpret the road layout/markings in this junction re cycles and vehicles and who has priority? Cyclist reckons the van should have stopped to let him turn right: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNTBOmcOTwM

The cyclist knew exactly what he was doing. If he didn't have a camera he would have waited.

[InitialDave]

Muddle238 said:

What an utterly ridiculous piece of road layout. It's the first time I've seen something like that, I had to pause the video and study it for a while to interpret all the details. So there's a give way for vehicles, immediately before and immediately after a weird green honeycomb thing which I've never seen in the HC, plus the double-dashed give way lines in the cycle lane but without a give way triangle.. Plus an odd island thrown into the mix... Not surprised there was a conflict of interest. Whoever signed that off needs a boIIocking imo. As a non-local to that area, first impression of that "junction" is clusterfu..

Yes, I think the van driver correctly interpreted a crap bit of road design, and the cyclist didn't.

[lyonspride]

BullyB said:

ScotHill said:

How would you interpret the road layout/markings in this junction re cycles and vehicles and who has priority? Cyclist reckons the van should have stopped to let him turn right: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNTBOmcOTwM

The cyclist knew exactly what he was doing. If he didn't have a camera he would have waited.

In all likelihood he did it to show how poorly designed that junction is.

[littlebasher]

Never mind all that, why is there a shed floating in the sea at 4:40 ?

[Cliftonite]

littlebasher said:

Never mind all that, why is there a shed floating in the sea at 4:40 ?

You watched all that video?

[Laurel Green]

littlebasher said:

Never mind all that, why is there a shed floating in the sea at 4:40 ?

That's not a shed, it's a boathouse and the SAS want it back.

It's the floods you see.

[gazza285]

Laurel Green said:

That's not a shed, it's a boathouse and the SAS want it back.

It's the floods you see.

It is the wrong colour.