Ask a car salesman anything...anything at all (Vol. 2).
Discussion
Fast Bug said:
jamoor said:
Wait what?
They schedule a service just to change a pollen filter?
How much does that cost?
£6352.17 (+ VAT obviously).They schedule a service just to change a pollen filter?
How much does that cost?
Us dealers need to rinse every last penny out of the public before we go down the manufacturer direct supply route and we have to resort to busking or turning tricks to feed our families.
jamoor said:
Fast Bug said:
jamoor said:
Wait what?
They schedule a service just to change a pollen filter?
How much does that cost?
£6352.17 (+ VAT obviously).They schedule a service just to change a pollen filter?
How much does that cost?
Us dealers need to rinse every last penny out of the public before we go down the manufacturer direct supply route and we have to resort to busking or turning tricks to feed our families.
Fast Bug said:
A few more years lifting punters legs on pollen changes I'll be able to retire to Marbs and spend my days drinking rum whilst Mrs FB rubs sun cream on my bald head. Sounds ideal
I just charge for the service, don’t change anything and sell the parts on eBay for cash innit. Dubble bubble bruvNot sure if this been asked/answered before.
At end of PCP. Car in negative equity. Would like to keep the car as happy with it. Is it cheeky to ask finance company if they would negotiate a price lower than final payment. May be better for them rather than incurring costs of sending to auction and getting a lower return or is this a no no?
Can I get my wife to buy it instead of me would that make it a more legitimate deal?
At end of PCP. Car in negative equity. Would like to keep the car as happy with it. Is it cheeky to ask finance company if they would negotiate a price lower than final payment. May be better for them rather than incurring costs of sending to auction and getting a lower return or is this a no no?
Can I get my wife to buy it instead of me would that make it a more legitimate deal?
NMNeil said:
When a prospective customer tells you exactly what he's looking for, do you show him that sort of vehicle, or do you first steer him towards the 'difficult' vehicle that you just can't shift?
Yes I've been car shopping recently
Path of least resistance. If you have what someone wants then you sell them that, sales 101!Yes I've been car shopping recently
The Rotrex Kid said:
NMNeil said:
When a prospective customer tells you exactly what he's looking for, do you show him that sort of vehicle, or do you first steer him towards the 'difficult' vehicle that you just can't shift?
Yes I've been car shopping recently
Path of least resistance. If you have what someone wants then you sell them that, sales 101!Yes I've been car shopping recently
Contacted the real estate agent and told her we wanted a 3 bedroom 2 bath single story house that was move in ready and close to town.
First house we were shown was 1 bedroom, 1 bath semi derelict shack 4 miles down a dirt track.
Here, salesman gets a bonus if they can get rid of the 'problem' house or car. Only after the refusal by the customer will they show you what you are looking for.
NMNeil said:
The Rotrex Kid said:
NMNeil said:
When a prospective customer tells you exactly what he's looking for, do you show him that sort of vehicle, or do you first steer him towards the 'difficult' vehicle that you just can't shift?
Yes I've been car shopping recently
Path of least resistance. If you have what someone wants then you sell them that, sales 101!Yes I've been car shopping recently
Contacted the real estate agent and told her we wanted a 3 bedroom 2 bath single story house that was move in ready and close to town.
First house we were shown was 1 bedroom, 1 bath semi derelict shack 4 miles down a dirt track.
Here, salesman gets a bonus if they can get rid of the 'problem' house or car. Only after the refusal by the customer will they show you what you are looking for.
jamoor said:
The Tesla model 3 has been out in the U.K. for over a year and has hardly depreciated, I wonder if this is because there is no dealer margin on the car.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202010235369114?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&model=MODEL%203&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&radius=1500&make=TESLA&postcode=sw113az&include-delivery-option=on&page=1 This one wouldve been £47k new, 1yr later its up for £38k. I wouldn't say dropping £9k is hardly depreciating.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202010094...
Meanwhile this 330e has a list price of £42k (and we all know BMW dealers love a discount) 1yr later its £32k so the same kind of drop?
93DW said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202010235...
This one wouldve been £47k new, 1yr later its up for £38k. I wouldn't say dropping £9k is hardly depreciating.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202010094...
Meanwhile this 330e has a list price of £42k (and we all know BMW dealers love a discount) 1yr later its £32k so the same kind of drop?
Nope that model 3 was probably 36-37k new including government grant.This one wouldve been £47k new, 1yr later its up for £38k. I wouldn't say dropping £9k is hardly depreciating.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202010094...
Meanwhile this 330e has a list price of £42k (and we all know BMW dealers love a discount) 1yr later its £32k so the same kind of drop?
Today you can buy a zero miles model 3 for 40.5k exactly like that white one.
bristolracer said:
Boris has announced 2030 as the end of new ICE sales
What changes will this bring?
Less dealerships?
Less choice of cars? Some manufacturers withdrawing from the UK market?
Less workshops/mechanics?
You forgot What changes will this bring?
Less dealerships?
Less choice of cars? Some manufacturers withdrawing from the UK market?
Less workshops/mechanics?
New manufacturers entering the market.
Nio and xpeng are two to watch
bristolracer said:
Boris has announced 2030 as the end of new ICE sales
What changes will this bring?
Less dealerships?
Less choice of cars? Some manufacturers withdrawing from the UK market?
Less workshops/mechanics?
Is that totally ICE, or does the car have to have an element of hybrid somewhere?What changes will this bring?
Less dealerships?
Less choice of cars? Some manufacturers withdrawing from the UK market?
Less workshops/mechanics?
Totally electric from 2030 I just cannot see working, unless there is a massive step up in investment re charging; times coming down drastically when charging from a public point, charge point reliability and charge point accesability and availability.
I can't charge from home, the nearest charge point to me is a 7kW point which is 2 miles away, OK in 10 years time, that may well change, but who will pay for it all.
2030 is 9/10 years away, OK people will still be running exclusively ICE cars well past that point but a s
t load of investment will be needed. HTP99 said:
Is that totally ICE, or does the car have to have an element of hybrid somewhere?
Totally electric from 2030 I just cannot see working, unless there is a massive step up in investment re charging; times coming down drastically when charging from a public point, charge point reliability and charge point accesability and availability.
I can't charge from home, the nearest charge point to me is a 7kW point which is 2 miles away, OK in 10 years time, that may well change, but who will pay for it all.
2030 is 9/10 years away, OK people will still be running exclusively ICE cars well past that point but a st load of investment will be needed.
Hybrids get another five years, so 2035.Totally electric from 2030 I just cannot see working, unless there is a massive step up in investment re charging; times coming down drastically when charging from a public point, charge point reliability and charge point accesability and availability.
I can't charge from home, the nearest charge point to me is a 7kW point which is 2 miles away, OK in 10 years time, that may well change, but who will pay for it all.
2030 is 9/10 years away, OK people will still be running exclusively ICE cars well past that point but a s
t load of investment will be needed. Totally agree on the infrastructure and investment issue, as well as the lost revenue from fuel taxation. I'm sure there is a plan in place though
HTP99 said:
bristolracer said:
Boris has announced 2030 as the end of new ICE sales
What changes will this bring?
Less dealerships?
Less choice of cars? Some manufacturers withdrawing from the UK market?
Less workshops/mechanics?
Is that totally ICE, or does the car have to have an element of hybrid somewhere?What changes will this bring?
Less dealerships?
Less choice of cars? Some manufacturers withdrawing from the UK market?
Less workshops/mechanics?
Totally electric from 2030 I just cannot see working, unless there is a massive step up in investment re charging; times coming down drastically when charging from a public point, charge point reliability and charge point accesability and availability.
I can't charge from home, the nearest charge point to me is a 7kW point which is 2 miles away, OK in 10 years time, that may well change, but who will pay for it all.
2030 is 9/10 years away, OK people will still be running exclusively ICE cars well past that point but a s
t load of investment will be needed. Its a hell of a jump to make in 10 years
I sort of get it, fire up the investment in renewables which he is keen on, trying to make the UK a leader in something in a post Brexit economy makes sense as well, but it will need the cooperation of the car makers,who are mainly non British and will still want to make vehicles for countries who will not be going electric in the shorter term, and may not want to make a whole range of cars for the one country on the planet that has thrown its hat in the electric ring early
bristolracer said:
The BBC are touting a story that Boris will bring the date forward from 2040 to 2030 with Hybrids getting a further 5 years to 2035
Its a hell of a jump to make in 10 years
I sort of get it, fire up the investment in renewables which he is keen on, trying to make the UK a leader in something in a post Brexit economy makes sense as well, but it will need the cooperation of the car makers,who are mainly non British and will still want to make vehicles for countries who will not be going electric in the shorter term, and may not want to make a whole range of cars for the one country on the planet that has thrown its hat in the electric ring early
Excellent point. Its a hell of a jump to make in 10 years
I sort of get it, fire up the investment in renewables which he is keen on, trying to make the UK a leader in something in a post Brexit economy makes sense as well, but it will need the cooperation of the car makers,who are mainly non British and will still want to make vehicles for countries who will not be going electric in the shorter term, and may not want to make a whole range of cars for the one country on the planet that has thrown its hat in the electric ring early
jamoor said:
The Tesla model 3 has been out in the U.K. for over a year and has hardly depreciated, I wonder if this is because there is no dealer margin on the car.
I don’t think that depreciation has anything to do with the initial margin on a car. Surely it’s purely a factor of what someone’s willing to pay for a thing?This suggests that the model 3 is very popular, and people are willing to pay to get hold of one quickly. If I were pricing it, I might well think that I could increase the list price as a result...
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