RE: Six Of The Best? Forgotten Hot Hatches
Discussion
Ali_T said:
IIRC, not one single magazine managed to get close to that, including in Japan. Realistically, it was closer to 6.5-7.0.
That don't surprise me one iota. Whoever got 5.7 (if they did!) must have been a one-off; with everything in its favour... And probably broke the clutch/trans in the process. 
Edited by joz8968 on Saturday 15th October 10:57
Kitchski said:
If they really wanted to get in on the hyper hatch race they could have bashed it in the 205 too.
IIRC, their WAS a 205 Mi16! i.e. a pukka model in Peugeot's line up intended for the FDM.Piggot also did a turbo version - called "T16" - of the 405 Mi16 4x4 with 200PS (LHD for FDM only) -- I would have loved to have of them back in the 90s...
http://www.performance-car-guide.co.uk/405-mi16.ht...
Edited by joz8968 on Saturday 15th October 11:07
Kitchski said:
minimatt1967 said:
joz8968 said:
306 S16. The forerunner to the aforementioned XSi.
IIRC, I think it had a 155bhp 8v version of the GTI-6's 167bhp 16v 2.0.
No, no 8v, it had the 16v iron block engine out of the later 405 Mi16.IIRC, I think it had a 155bhp 8v version of the GTI-6's 167bhp 16v 2.0.
The 306 you're thinking of was probably the 130bhp 2.0 8v XSi.
joz8968 said:
Kitchski said:
If they really wanted to get in on the hyper hatch race they could have bashed it in the 205 too.
IIRC, their WAS a 205 Mi16! i.e. a pukka model in Peugeot's line up intended for the FDM.Piggot also did a turbo version of the 405 Mi16 4x4 with 200PS (FDM only) -- I would have loved to have of them back in the 90s.
Edited by joz8968 on Saturday 15th October 11:03
The 405 you're thinking of with the T16. It was the ph2 2.0 16v lump but with one of the first variable-vane turbochargers fitted to a production car.
Kitchski said:
Never a factory built 205 Mi16 to my knowledge, but they must have played around!
I could have sworn I read somewhere that Peugeot did produce a 16v 205 with 160bhp for their home market. Ho hum - prob a load of b
ks then lol.Kitchski said:
The 405 you're thinking of with the T16. It was the ph2 2.0 16v lump but with one of the first variable-vane turbochargers fitted to a production car.
Yeah, I added "T16" to my original post. Love the BX, I used to have a Black 1991 version.
Very quick then, performance not too shabby these days.
The M16 engine is bonkers above 4000rpm.
I'd love another.
Does everyone know that the Peugeot 309 was available in M16 form in Europe. I have lustful thoughts about these too.
Very quick then, performance not too shabby these days.
The M16 engine is bonkers above 4000rpm.
I'd love another.
Does everyone know that the Peugeot 309 was available in M16 form in Europe. I have lustful thoughts about these too.
Edited by B Huey on Saturday 15th October 11:24
RizzoTheRat said:
thewheelman said:
I know they were $58k, i didn't think they were £50k in the U.K.? (that would explain why so few sold) From what i've read they never sold them all. Evo rate them in their 10 worst cars list http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/2049...
Not to my taste, but if owners are happy, then that's all that matters i guess.
Hmmmm,Not to my taste, but if owners are happy, then that's all that matters i guess.
Edited by thewheelman on Friday 14th October 18:23
Article title said:
The ten worst cars we've ever tested
article said:
Apparently they don’t handle very well either
So they tested it but don't know how it handles?joz8968 said:
http://www.civictyper.org/ek9civic.html
The EK9 - want! want! want! (in the above Championship White, naturally). A genuine HOT hatch.
Who remembers Performace Car's quote? Something along the lines of:-
"0 to 60 not in 9. Not 8. Not 7. Not 6. But 5.7. Five point seven!"
Edited by joz8968 on Friday 14th October 19:07
Anyway, can we have a 'Forgotten Coupes' next....?
Kitchski said:
joz8968 said:
Kitchski said:
If they really wanted to get in on the hyper hatch race they could have bashed it in the 205 too.
IIRC, their WAS a 205 Mi16! i.e. a pukka model in Peugeot's line up intended for the FDM.Piggot also did a turbo version of the 405 Mi16 4x4 with 200PS (FDM only) -- I would have loved to have of them back in the 90s.
Edited by joz8968 on Saturday 15th October 11:03
The 405 you're thinking of with the T16. It was the ph2 2.0 16v lump but with one of the first variable-vane turbochargers fitted to a production car.
BX for me (and pleasantly surprised that many others share the sentiment). Had 2 16Vs back in the day and they were fast and fun yet practical too and, as others have commented, very well equipped (discs all round with ABS, electric sunroof, 4x elec windows (the rear switches for which were mounted on the back of the central console between the front seats), electric roof, remote locking, alloys, and possibly more that I've long since forgotten).
I also remember an advert for them along the lines of it was Marcello Gandini's favourite car... er, after some of the others he designed such as various Lambos and Maseratis.
I also remember an advert for them along the lines of it was Marcello Gandini's favourite car... er, after some of the others he designed such as various Lambos and Maseratis.
Hellbound said:
Also remember they compared it to the Integra Type R which got 5 stars, the EK9 only got 3 iirc...
Yeah, sadly I think Perf. Car said it was akin to driving a DC2... But "whilst wearing thick gloves and wellies", or something along those lines. That last level of feedback was lacking, when compared to the DC2.
Edited by joz8968 on Monday 17th October 18:33
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