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Red16

589 posts

169 months

Friday 10th February 2012
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Sam_68 said:
I'm with CraigVmax: everyone who owns a 'Seven' (especially the BEC ones, apparently) can do 3-second 0-60 times... until you actually put them up against accurate timing gear. wink
I've not been up against any timing gear yet but i'd hazard a guess at my 'Seven' doing it in under 4 seconds, with 297bhp/132lbft@wheels and weighing 450kg, 73mph in 1st gear means no gear changes and decent traction from the start line smile

jbi

12,682 posts

205 months

Friday 10th February 2012
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About 8 seconds in the Toyota and I'm not sure if there are enough seconds on the clock to time the Defender

Zoobeef

6,004 posts

159 months

Friday 10th February 2012
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Not sure if mine does 60 :/

TDutchy

661 posts

196 months

Saturday 11th February 2012
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Red16 said:
Sam_68 said:
I'm with CraigVmax: everyone who owns a 'Seven' (especially the BEC ones, apparently) can do 3-second 0-60 times... until you actually put them up against accurate timing gear. wink
I've not been up against any timing gear yet but i'd hazard a guess at my 'Seven' doing it in under 4 seconds, with 297bhp/132lbft@wheels and weighing 450kg, 73mph in 1st gear means no gear changes and decent traction from the start line smile
Oh Hell!

leeson660

429 posts

166 months

Saturday 11th February 2012
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What about slowest 0-60 times when you were really trying? smile

I did 0-58 in 59 seconds in my first car a fiesta 1.0 with 4 mates in the car. Great start, hit every shift perfectly but ran out of road before I could hit the magic number.


Sam_68

9,939 posts

246 months

Saturday 11th February 2012
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Red16 said:
I've not been up against any timing gear yet but i'd hazard a guess at my 'Seven' doing it in under 4 seconds, with 297bhp/132lbft@wheels and weighing 450kg, 73mph in 1st gear means no gear changes and decent traction from the start line smile
You might well find that it depends how good your tyres, rear suspension geometry and (particularly) damping are, as these, rather than power:weight ratio, tend to be the limiting factor with very light cars like 'Sevens'.

Sticky tyres go without explanation, but if your contact footprint is reduced by camber angles when the car squats, or if your dampers are incapable of very precisely controlling wheel movement against the highly unfavourable sprung:unsprung weight ratios you get with flyweights, you may be disappointed no matter how powerful your engine is.

...but yes, unless you've got a set of spax adjustables and 'ordinary' (non-track-day) tyres, you'll stand a reasonable chance of <4.0 with that sort of power... provided you don't blow your clutch. smile

Toaster Pilot

14,622 posts

159 months

Saturday 11th February 2012
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2011 Kia Picanto 1.0 - 80 days? laugh

Red16

589 posts

169 months

Saturday 11th February 2012
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Sam_68 said:
You might well find that it depends how good your tyres, rear suspension geometry and (particularly) damping are, as these, rather than power:weight ratio, tend to be the limiting factor with very light cars like 'Sevens'.

Sticky tyres go without explanation, but if your contact footprint is reduced by camber angles when the car squats, or if your dampers are incapable of very precisely controlling wheel movement against the highly unfavourable sprung:unsprung weight ratios you get with flyweights, you may be disappointed no matter how powerful your engine is.

...but yes, unless you've got a set of spax adjustables and 'ordinary' (non-track-day) tyres, you'll stand a reasonable chance of <4.0 with that sort of power... provided you don't blow your clutch. smile
Gaz aluminium bodied coilovers do a reasonable job of the damping.
Suspension arms have rosejoints for adjustment of camber and caster which help keep the suspension alignment in check.
Medium compound Toyo R888 tyres on lightweight Team Dynamic Pro 1.2 wheels, assist with grip and keep moment of inertia and unsprung weight down.
A lock up clutch helps by preventing clutch slip.

So all in all a decent chance of laying down some good times, providing my driving isn't too poor!

Sam_68

9,939 posts

246 months

Saturday 11th February 2012
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Red16 said:
Gaz aluminium bodied coilovers do a reasonable job of the damping.
Suspension arms have rosejoints for adjustment of camber and caster which help keep the suspension alignment in check.
You'd have been better off (IMO hippy) spending at least some of your money on better dampers - GAZ are probably better than Spax, but still pretty bargain-basement. Think about Nitrons at least, or preferably Penskes when your budget allows. And whatever you use, make sure they've been valved to suit the application and dyno checked.

- and yes, rose joints help maintain accuracy of suspension, but if the basic geometry is wrong, all they'll do is ensure that its accurately bad!

Red16

589 posts

169 months

Saturday 11th February 2012
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As they say the proof is in the pudding, i'm really looking forward to finding out this summer, not had the car on the road much since passing IVA, bring on the happy times!

Rob893

71 posts

149 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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matthias73 said:
which car?
How did I forget? tongue out

Peugeot 206 1.4