Are you more skilful that the average driver?

[intrepid44]

GokTweed said:

intrepid44 said:

So, which institute of higher learning is it that you attend?

That jibe was meant with tongue in cheek. Although if you were smarter you would have understood it but not been at Newcastle uni so wouldn't have been offended anyway. Vicious circle

It may be in the form of tongue in cheek, but that doesn't mean it isn't a condescending poorly thought out piece of writing, and you still haven't said which university you go to, the only thing I can gather is that you're doing Vet Med, so probably couldn't get in for Medicine

[R0G]

Sofiekp said:

Here's the link for my questionnaire: http://nclpsych.eu.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_6lhB4N...


And thanks for the advice and responding so quickly!!

Got to the end of the driving questions then it went to weird Qs like the length of the Nile so gave up at that point because I do not know and will not guess - there was not an option for 'do not know'

[R0G]

Was there questions in that somewhere which asked about further training and assessments since passing the basic test?

[Scrambled]

Anybody else not seeing this whole thing as completely kosher?

[micky g]

I thought it was interesting and fun to complete. I just wish it gave an individual appraisal at the end.

Good luck with it Sofie, (oh, and ignore some of the more miserable buggers on here!)

[Raize]

I got bored and quit

[Raize]

Scrambled said:

Anybody else not seeing this whole thing as completely kosher?

The questions are posed in a biased way.

[Robb F]

GokTweed said:

Please call me Gok it's common knowledge in motoring terms that undertaking means to pass someone on the kerb side of the vehicle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undertaking_(driving) you know that right?

Quoting wikipedia. Great.

The highway code says

163
"only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so"

The highway code does not use the word undertake.

[hadenough!]

Robb F said:

GokTweed said:

Please call me Gok it's common knowledge in motoring terms that undertaking means to pass someone on the kerb side of the vehicle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undertaking_(driving) you know that right?

Quoting wikipedia. Great.

The highway code says

163
"only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so"

The highway code does not use the word undertake.

Ta

[GokTweed]

hadenough! said:

Robb F said:

GokTweed said:

Please call me Gok it's common knowledge in motoring terms that undertaking means to pass someone on the kerb side of the vehicle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undertaking_(driving) you know that right?

Quoting wikipedia. Great.

The highway code says

163
"only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so"

The highway code does not use the word undertake.

Ta

Okay fair enough that question was technically right even if nowadays the word 'undertake' is better known and should replace it. The rest of the post was right IMO and whatever 'approved' questionnaire they were taken from needs re-assessing urgently.

[hadenough!]

GokTweed said:

hadenough! said:

Robb F said:

GokTweed said:

Please call me Gok it's common knowledge in motoring terms that undertaking means to pass someone on the kerb side of the vehicle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undertaking_(driving) you know that right?

Quoting wikipedia. Great.

The highway code says

163
"only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so"

The highway code does not use the word undertake.

Ta

Okay fair enough that question was technically right even if nowadays the word 'undertake' is better known and should replace it. The rest of the post was right IMO and whatever 'approved' questionnaire they were taken from needs re-assessing urgently.

So we should change the our language to comply with its misuse, and a survey developed over years by qualified professionals needs "reassessing urgently"???

fking students

[GokTweed]

hadenough! said:

GokTweed said:

Okay fair enough that question was technically right even if nowadays the word 'undertake' is better known and should replace it. The rest of the post was right IMO and whatever 'approved' questionnaire they were taken from needs re-assessing urgently.

So we should change the our language to comply with its misuse, and a survey developed over years by qualified professionals needs "reassessing urgently"???

fking students

Language evolves as time moves on, you've just given away your age a bit there pops

And if this survey developed by 'professionals'refers to merging as 'forcing your way into the other lane' then yes of course you daft tt!

[cuprabob]

Started doing it and got bored before I got half way.

Sorry, but it's far too long and tedious

[hadenough!]

GokTweed said:

hadenough! said:

GokTweed said:

Okay fair enough that question was technically right even if nowadays the word 'undertake' is better known and should replace it. The rest of the post was right IMO and whatever 'approved' questionnaire they were taken from needs re-assessing urgently.

So we should change the our language to comply with its misuse, and a survey developed over years by qualified professionals needs "reassessing urgently"???

fking students

Language evolves as time moves on, you've just given away your age a bit there pops

And if this survey developed by 'professionals'refers to merging as 'forcing your way into the other lane' then yes of course you daft tt!

33 for what it's worth, but what's your mums name? You never know.

Anyway, never disagreed on the merging / forcing issue, but to insist it needs reassessing urgently...because you say so...grow up.

So more about you, where and what are you studying to make you so superior?

[waterwonder]

Done and I'm also keen to hear about the results.

Maybe as a follow up study you could asses whether overconfidence and personality in (under) Graduates affects their ability to learn from their mistakes.

Edited by waterwonder on Sunday 9th December 16:55

[GokTweed]

hadenough! said:

GokTweed said:

hadenough! said:

GokTweed said:

Okay fair enough that question was technically right even if nowadays the word 'undertake' is better known and should replace it. The rest of the post was right IMO and whatever 'approved' questionnaire they were taken from needs re-assessing urgently.

So we should change the our language to comply with its misuse, and a survey developed over years by qualified professionals needs "reassessing urgently"???

fking students

Language evolves as time moves on, you've just given away your age a bit there pops

And if this survey developed by 'professionals'refers to merging as 'forcing your way into the other lane' then yes of course you daft tt!

33 for what it's worth, but what's your mums name? You never know.

Anyway, never disagreed on the merging / forcing issue, but to insist it needs reassessing urgently...because you say so...grow up.

So more about you, where and what are you studying to make you so superior?

You're not that old so stop being stupid.

It's just my opinion that it needs reassessing urgently and tbh if you think its fine to refer to merging in that light, and that it's perfectly reasonable to be approved and used nationwide as the best example of a motoring psychology survey then you're in the wrong place IMO.

I never claimed to be superior in anyway and i never hinted as such in any posts, if you want to take it like that then be my guest i couldn't give a toss.

Further to the dim thing if you want to know more about me then look at my profile i'm not giving you my sodding life story like we're on a date and turning this thread into our little love in.

[hadenough!]

GokTweed said:

You're not that old so stop being stupid.

It's just my opinion that it needs reassessing urgently and tbh if you think its fine to refer to merging in that light, and that it's perfectly reasonable to be approved and used nationwide as the best example of a motoring psychology survey then you're in the wrong place IMO.

I never claimed to be superior in anyway and i never hinted as such in any posts, if you want to take it like that then be my guest i couldn't give a toss.

Further to the dim thing if you want to know more about me then look at my profile i'm not giving you my sodding life story like we're on a date and turning this thread into our little love in.

Again, I agreed on the merging point, but I appreciate your insight on whether I should frequent this site or not give your whole year versus my 10 or so...cheers.

Your opening post did give an air of superiority and its not just me who picked up on it either.

[Toltec]

I wonder if Sophie is collecting extra data on driver psychology from the posts on this thread?

I did wonder if the general knowledge questions were also about discovering if the respondent was honest or someone who would check the answers online first?

Some of the questions were ambiguous, so what is new?

"Stay in a motorway lane that you know will be closed ahead until the last minute before forcing your way into the other lane"

On occasions I might merge in the last 10 - 20 seconds, but I never have to force my way in. I have a feeling the question is very carefully worded, it makes me wonder about how defensive some of the the posters are about this.

Perhaps they lack confidence in how others would assess their driving?

[GokTweed]

hadenough! said:

Again, I agreed on the merging point, but I appreciate your insight on whether I should frequent this site or not give your whole year versus my 10 or so...cheers.

Your opening post did give an air of superiority and its not just me who picked up on it either.

So if you agree then why have a go at me for saying it needs to be changed?

That's not how it was meant at all. The joke about Newcastle as a uni was jus that. A joke. I was trying to point out some apparent flaws in the survey so that the girl didn't go to the trouble of collecting data and compiling a dissertation on motoring psychology and the effect of overconfidence only for the inconsistencies to be discovered and her to lose out. For example, the merging/forcing question, that is obviously badly written and therefore won't have been answered properly. Therefore the 'approved' questionnaire will not collect accurate data and any conclusions she draws from it will be voided by any external examiner who pays attention and reads the whole thing.

Having realised it wasn't her who compiled the questionnaire i maybe could have appologised for the accusative tone so i hold my hands up to that. However the fact that a committee of 'professionals' have reviewed and accepted this as a reliable questionnaire really calls their qualifications into question, again IMO.

Edited by GokTweed on Sunday 9th December 21:33

[otolith]

R0G said:

Got to the end of the driving questions then it went to weird Qs like the length of the Nile so gave up at that point because I do not know and will not guess - there was not an option for 'do not know'

I think the point was to ask you a question you didn't know the answer to and then see how confident you were in your guess - if you had only answered the ones you knew, I don't think the test would be very useful.