RE: Driven: Porsche Cayman S

[Mermaid]

barcaospre said:

Well done Porsche......again! It appears as though the evolution strategy is alive and working. I would really appreciate views of colleagues on the forum in relation to the following. I want to buy a Cayman. Depreciation becomes less of an issue as we all know if you decide to run the car into the ground. If I am to that with the new Cayman then I would want to spec it up to a good level. (Lets say £60,000 off of the forecourt). That might be a tad too much. So what about the purchase of an R ( £42K isn from an OCP); enjoy it for two or three years; sell it privately ( £25k??) and then buy a high spec 3 year old Cayman S.
Or convince myself that you really do only live once . Thanks for those who offer up some advice!!

A dilemma many will be enduring.

The new Cayman is a grown up & well sorted Cayman. But a £60 car will be a £40k car in 2 years time. Many Cayman R's were priced around £60k are now early 40's. I expect the CR will probably settle at £30k.

But really it is about needs - the CR will not be as good a place to sit in for everyday driving IMO.

Or you could buy a very low mileage 991 for £65k, much more car and a fair chunk of depreciation already taken into account - top of the evolution tree.

[SFO]

Spice_Weasel said:

Is dual zone air con really needed in a cabin the size of the Cayman's? We have it in the Cayenne and always use it on single zone mode. I reckon you can save £518 there. I agree with the BOSE comments too so that would be another £800 saved. Bingo! Less than £57K

if you don't go dual zone, you only get standard a/c -- that only has temp control by bars only, and is not automatic.

BOSE is 981 (at least in a Boxster) is MUCH MUCH better than 987 (Boxster).

[Davey S2]

Stelvio1 said:

Sorry I love Porkers, owned 3 in the past - but would really love to see them move the game on instead of playing safe

All of the tests I've seen on the new Cayman hail it as the best all round sports car you can buy.

What else are you expecting them to do? Make it look really futuristic? That's not what Porsche do. They are about evolution not revolution. I would have thought you would have realised that after owning 3 of them.

The Evora is a good car but has its issues as the sales figures and residuals show.

Edited by Davey S2 on Friday 15th February 12:29

[MycroftWard]

I think it looks rather good, just a nice curvy sports car shape. Seem to have some interesting lines without too many overly fussy details.

[cayman-black]

cure said:

If with all this great news you can't quite think of the reason to opt for a 991; this is it:


Very very near to my perfect spec.

Thats the best looking 991 ive seen.

[baz1985]

It's a compelling review. However, I'd much rather have an Evora S.

[Asterix]

baz1985 said:

It's a compelling review. However, I'd much rather have an Evora S.

Why?

Genuine question - I want solid reasons.

[beeej]

baz1985 said:

It's a compelling review. However, I'd much rather have an Evora S.

There's nowt as queer as folk

[baz1985]

Asterix said:

Why?

Genuine question - I want solid reasons.

1. Aesthetics- personal preference (although I have not observed a physical 981C)
2. Steering
3. Ability for B road thrashing- i.e. suspension for dealing with undulations/mid-corner ruts etc...(I found PASM in my 987C.1 S to detract from the immediacy of response, I guess that lack of directness may pervade the 981C too).
4. No doubt facetious and vacuous, it would be akin to re-engaging relations with a previous female companion because she has had some facelifts/work done etc.

[RobM77]

Ozzie Osmond said:

RobM77 said:

if Lotus can manage the above on the Evora for less than Porsche spend testing cupholders, surely it's possible?

Sadly Lotus has made itself all-but irrelevant with the sales disaster which is the Evora. They are clearly losing money on every car they build. I don't think that's what Porsche have in mind.

I was referring specifically to the three technical problems with the Cayman that I listed. It just so happens that Lotus got round those issues with the Evora very successfully. Lotus' sales failure is due to other reasons.

[RobM77]

baz1985 said:

Asterix said:

Why?

Genuine question - I want solid reasons.

1. Aesthetics- personal preference (although I have not observed a physical 981C)
2. Steering
3. Ability for B road thrashing- i.e. suspension for dealing with undulations/mid-corner ruts etc...(I found PASM in my 987C.1 S to detract from the immediacy of response, I guess that lack of directness may pervade the 981C too).
4. No doubt facetious and vacuous, it would be akin to re-engaging relations with a previous female companion because she has had some facelifts/work done etc.

I've driven both cars on a mixture of roads and would like to add to the above. The Porsche is more refined, feels more solid, has better weight distribution and has better brake pedal weighting. I also happen to prefer the design of the Porsche. The Evora though just drives much better - there's no question at all in my mind on that one. The steering is better (weight, linearity and feel), the throttle response, the primary and secondary ride, the driving position.. I could go on! Minute by minute on a B road, it's just a far nicer driving experience.

[Carl_Docklands]

cayman-black said:

cure said:

If with all this great news you can't quite think of the reason to opt for a 991; this is it:


Very very near to my perfect spec.

Thats the best looking 991 ive seen.

I would think it is nice for £135k :P

[The Pits]

RobM77 said:

I've driven both cars on a mixture of roads and would like to add to the above. The Porsche is more refined, feels more solid, has better weight distribution and has better brake pedal weighting. I also happen to prefer the design of the Porsche. The Evora though just drives much better - there's no question at all in my mind on that one. The steering is better (weight, linearity and feel), the throttle response, the primary and secondary ride, the driving position.. I could go on! Minute by minute on a B road, it's just a far nicer driving experience.

Same here. Evoras are brilliant on UK roads, strangely enough.

The Cayman also has an utterly loathesome electric spoiler. No man deserves the humiliation of such an effeminate appendage rising at 70mph.

[AML]

The Pits said:

Same here. Evoras are brilliant on UK roads, strangely enough.

The Cayman also has an utterly loathesome electric spoiler. No man deserves the humiliation of such an effeminate appendage rising at 70mph.

Please spare a thought for us poor R drivers. We have to suffer an effeminate appendage permanently on display...... can't say it bothers me though!

[SidewaysSi]

Forget the Evora, for me the new Exige is stunning. Far more desirable than any Cayman.

[RobM77]

SidewaysSi said:

Forget the Evora, for me the new Exige is stunning. Far more desirable than any Cayman.

I agree, bit it's not really a GT though, it's a different sort of car.

[NGK210]

RobM77 said:

SidewaysSi said:

Forget the Evora, for me the new Exige is stunning. Far more desirable than any Cayman.

I agree, bit it's not really a GT though, it's a different sort of car.

[SidewaysSi]

True, it is perhaps not a true Cayman rival but both are new designs at about the same price. As a car hit with 60 large, it would be hard to look past the Lotus. I expect the Exige to have better residuals too. As well as being faster, harder, more exciting and British.

[OlberJ]

Does the Evora cost 60k or start at 60k?

[RobM77]

SidewaysSi said:

True, it is perhaps not a true Cayman rival but both are new designs at about the same price. As a car hit with 60 large, it would be hard to look past the Lotus. I expect the Exige to have better residuals too. As well as being faster, harder, more exciting and British.

The Exige is an awesome car, but unlike the Cayman, I doubt many will use one every day (althougn that is of course possible, my Elise was my only transport for 3 years). I've been in the position to buy an Exige twice now, both times as a second car, and I just can't get past the fact that if it's just a weekend car, I'd rather have something lighter and rawer. The first time I went single seater racing instead, and this time round I bought a 2-11. That said, not everyone has my tastes, and the Exige and Cayman are both fine cars.